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Just now, buick said:

 

example, you do your extension in may 2017 and that puts you through to april 2018.  you have the non imm O with a re-entry permit (or multiple).  after 90 days, you have a choice, report or depart.  when you return, you still have until april 2018 (but get the choice each 90 days, stay or leave).  i haven't done any reports as i just got the non immo O so not sure how cumbersome that is.  i do leave from time to time so i'm guessing i won't make more than one of those a year.

 

 

Perfecto... makes sense :)

Now... can I please ask again the question which bogs me... what would I get from the OA visa which I am not getting from the O visa aside from the trouble of needing to fly back home, get police clearance, medical certificate and pay a solicitor to notarise the lot?

1 minute ago, buick said:

 

your current stay is 90 days with the non imm O.  then comes your 12 month extension.  which you can do every year, over and over (assuming you meet the terms).  if you want to leave the country during your 12 month extension, you'll need a re-entry permit, you can get a single or a multiple.  you have a choice at the end of 90 days during your 12 month extension.  do a 90 day report and stay in country, or leave the country and return later (using re-entry permit).  re-entry permits can be obtained at CW (right next to section C where you did conversion) or at the airport.

Buick, thank God you exist :), as you always write the stuff that I want to hear (this should be of interest to Sambotte as well). 

Now... ubonjoe clearly is very knowledgeable and knows his stuff, but I think in this case he is not completely right.

Buick is suggesting that with a Non immigrant O one has a choice to stay in the country with the 90 day report or leave and get another 90 days later.

The statement below from Ubonjoe is different.

2 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

You would have leave the country every 90 days with a multiple entry non-o visa.

 

It makes sense to me that one can choose to stay in the country with a police report or leave, as it reflects what I heard from others too, so I assume Buick's version is correct, which means I don't have to do visa runs... just go to immigration every 90 days with my O visa.

Eager to hear more :)

Straydog

Well, if you take a photo of your cat
they could put an imagine of your pussy on the bike.
Be kinda unique maybe.

Just now, papa al said:

hard to tell,

but bet that's wrap

Most likely... the textured pattern is just because I took a photo of my screen...

Any ideas welcome...

1 minute ago, ubonjoe said:

You don't need a police check every 90 days. You just do a report of staying longer than days to immigration. You can do it in person, by mail or online (if working then).

A report on staying longer than?

If you mean 90 days, I wonder how I could, if my maximum stay is only 90 days...?

2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You would have leave the country every 90 days with a multiple entry non-o visa.

You would need a re-entry permit to to keep your one year extension valid if you want to travel. You can get a single re-entry permit (1000 baht) or a multiple re-entry permit (3800 baht) that will be valid for the length of your extension.

Clarity at last... but that's a pain... 

So here I am doing visa runs...

I assume visa run on a Non-O is a safe thing, no questions at the border, right?

Also, I won't need a police check every 90 days right, since I am never in the country for more than 90 days... right?

Thanks ubonjoe for the patience...

I am giving up...

Does it mean that once I have my one year extension for my O visa I will have to leave the country every 90 days?

I can't believe that's the case...

If that's not the case, I really don't see the difference other than sophism...

An O visa allows you to stay in the country for 1 year without need to exit. If you have a multi-entry re-entry permit you can go in and out as you please.

An OA visa allows you to stay in the country for 1 year without need to exit. It is multiple entry by default.

Both require 90 days police report.

Both require extension after one year.

Both can be extended indefinitely.

Still don't see the practical difference, other than to get the OA one needs to spend 5000 baht, get police clearance, medical certificate and apply in own country, whereas for the O you pay 2000 + re-entry permits if required.

I am no expert, but I am still in the dark, thanks for the patience...

Straydog

Just now, ubonjoe said:

No and No

Once you have the one year extension of stay you can apply for a new extension every year after that.

OK, so... what is the difference between an O extended year on year and and OA?

Sorry if I sound dumb...

23 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

A non-o visa only allows a 90 day entry that can be extended for a year. A OA visa is issued by an embassy or consulate allows multiple one year entries.

You can apply for one year extension year after year.

There would never be a conversion to a OA visa you just apply for the OA visa in your home country.

So... does that mean that once I have extended my O visa for a year I will have to leave Thailand and go to home country to apply for OA because I won't be able to extend the O any further?

In other words, an O visa has a limited timespan of 90 days + 1 year?

Thanks

straydog

23 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You cannot apply for a OA visa in Thailand. A OA visa can only be applied for at a embassy or consulate in your home country.

The first step is to get a 90 day non-o visa entry and then apply for a one year extension of stay (it is not a visa) based upon retirement at immigration.

Only Bangkok and Chiang Mai immigration can issue a non immigrant visa (non-o). Bangkok immigration has authorized a few offices within the central region to accept the application and send it to them for approval.

Any immigration office can accept the application for the one year extension of stay based upon retirement once you have the 90 day non-o visa entry.

So... is there a difference between an O visa extended and an OA?

I assume the O visa 1 year extension can be renewed year on year, would there be a need to convert it into an OA?

Thanks

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[Possible then to have them clear vinyl covered for protection.]
or just clear coat spray paint.
Or:
Wrap-shops can often print vinyl any way you want
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before applying it to vehicle.
The sky is the limit for image design.
You see vinyl advertising wraps & signage
 on company vehicles everywhere now.
Removing plastic panels is pretty easy & cheap by any mo-canic.
The cost of painting vs wrapping is slight.
Nether of these services are expensive.
A couple hundred bucks should easily cover it.
Good luck;
We'll need pics after of course...   ;-)
 

No.
If you want some landscape/hand-painting on your panels,
they need be removed and painted.
[Possible then to have them clear vinyl covered for protection.]
or just clear coat spray paint.
Or:
Wrap-shops can often print vinyl any way you want
[digital later printed]
before applying it to vehicle.
The sky is the limit for image design.
You see vinyl advertising wraps & signage
 on company vehicles everywhere now.
Removing plastic panels is pretty easy & cheap by any mo-canic.
The cost of painting vs wrapping is slight.
Nether of these services are expensive.
A couple hundred bucks should easily cover it.
Good luck;
We'll need pics after of course...   ;-)
 

1 minute ago, buick said:

so the bank produced two letters/pieces of paper ?  one certifying the balance and another relating to the foreign transfer ?  i wasn't really sure if i had the foreign transfer piece covered or not (i had just one letter, in thai).  but they took the papers and gave me the receipt (and next visit got stamp).  i'm just wondering as i'll have to do it all over again in two months and want to make sure i get the right stuff. 

 

At first the bank produced a standard letter in Thai which acted as the guarantee letter. They also photocopied all pages of my bankbook. They stamped and signed both (items 1 and 2 in your list).

I went to immigration and they sent me back to the bank as they had to have a guarantee of the foreign source of my funds. My pointing to the bankbook showing the FTT coded transaction (Foreign Transfer, I guess) did not yield results.

The immigration lady was very friendly though. She highlighted in yellow the relevant Thai section of the requirements list (you can see it in the attachment) and showed me a standard letter from Bangkok Bank, which I photographed and took to Bangkok Bank on the ground floor.

Bangkok Bank understood what I was looking for, they said that they could not produce something the same as the photograph I had shown them as that can only be done at the main branch, but in the space of a two minutes they produced something else which looked official and was duly accepted upstairs by the immigration lady.

When you go just tell the BKK Bank staff you need that too, and if necessary print out the document I attached and show the section in yellow.

Cheers,

straydog

1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said:

For the foreign transfer of 800k, it doesn't matter if its sent in GBP or THB (assuming from UK)?
Someone mentioned to me when buying a condo you have to send it in GBP but I'm not sure about that.

I don't know how to answer your question, but please can you quote when you reply, as you have published my whole message as if it was written by you :)

Want royalties...

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 arrived on visa exemption the 23 march.

 

First question is, if i did understand correctly, i can transform the exemption 30 days to a 90 days kind of visa right ? I did not know about this... Sure ?

And then apply for the one year ; all without having to leave the country ?

Is this possible anywhere in Thailand ? I am not in Bangkok. Phuket would be the nearest place with immigration for me.

OK..... I just arrived back from Chaeng Wattana immigration and I have fresh news.

Thanks to the invaluable advice of a few here (in particular ubonjoe and buick) I got a situation very similar to yours sorted out.

The assumption here is that the office in Phuket will do all this for you, and I would guess yes.

For clarity, we are talking about two visas here:

Non-Immigrant O (90 days)

Non-Immigrant O-A (retirement, one year)

The short answer to your question is that yes, you can - within the space of a couple of months - get your retirement visa sorted out.

The difference between me and you is that I was on a tourist visa and you are on a visa exempt. This makes a difference on the form you need to fill (negligible, see details below) and on the amount of time you have to apply for the conversion (this statement is best validated by the experts in this forum), as I guess you can't overstay your visa exempt period whilst you wait for the conversion to NonImmigrant O to complete (2-3 weeks).

Aside from this little detail, your situation is favourable and you do not need to leave the country.

Go to immigration, fill the form, hand in one photo, get the bank to produce the 3 documents listed in this thread (I also attach a photo which gives you the Thai translation too), 2000 baht, photocopies of the TM card, personal detail page and stamps on your passport and off you go, you can apply for the conversion of your visa exempt status into a Non Immigrant-O visa.

I applied today and will get my stamp on 17th April (which is more than the two weeks quoted by Buick above, but it may have to do with Songkhran). You will get 90 days from the day you apply, after which you will be able to apply for the 1 year extension (Non-Immigrant O-A, aka retirement visa).

The thing you need to watch for is that when you apply for the O-A (the one year extension of your O visa), your 800000 baht need to have been in your account for two months (three months for future years extensions I believe, but better check), therefore you cannot apply after only 45 days from your O visa application, as you would fail to meet that criteria, better wait 60 days (or 53 in your case, as you already had them for a week).

I was told that between now and my 90 days visa I should not leave the country, but the officer wasn't too convincing on this point.

As for bank papers, I bank with Bangkok Bank and did everything (as advised) on the ground floor of the Immigration Office. I paid 100 baht and they knew exactly what to do, although they forgot to produce the paper showing that I had received a foreign transfer of 800k, so I was pushed back by immigration and had to go back to the bank. The whole lot from entering immigration to exiting with my application receipt took about 1 hour, including bank letters and a meat skewer.

So, the way I see your situation is that you don't need any document that you don't already have, but you need to hurry as you want your Visa exemption to stay valid throughout your conversion to O visa, which means you have to apply this week to get it before 22 April, right?

Many thanks again to all.

Straydog

See attachment for docs required, or read the thread.

Sorry I can't answer the questions about passport validity and empty pages

Hi mate, just had confirmation my money has been sent. Mine should be in the account by the 3rd of April.
Dropped quite a bit since yesterday. The rate that is, cant see it getting any better for the next couple of years.
Cheers.

Where did I write that people from the UK cannot get a non-o visa. I only corrected your erroneous post stating a person must be 65 to a get a non-o visa.

You are an optimist by nature... :)

Of course it will be there.

Did you get the same deal I had?

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Well that's it money sent. Should be in my Thai bank next week or sooner. Just have to hope its still in there when I get back to Bangkok in July :)

Just now, berybert said:

I am about to do the same myself. Not sure whether to do it now or leave it a couple more months, I will be back in Bangkok in July.

I notice Transferwise don't pay the money for quite a while, I transferred before with Forex and it was in my Thai bank next day,

Well, when to do it is guesswork. Don't think a Scottish referendum will do well to the pound unfortunately but who knows.

As for the turnaround time, I sent from Halifax to Transferwise on fast transfer and the money reached transferwise within the hour (UK morning).

In UK afternoon about 4pm today Transferwise wrote to me that my funds had been remitted to the Thai account and should reach here tomorrow. (and Bangkok bank will surely slice off another 500 baht)

1 minute ago, berybert said:

Do  you DIDNT have the finance's to pay the money from your home country ? Get a far better rate from anywhere that is no the UK.

Nope actually, and from the perspective you are putting it my home country is indeed the UK, where all my money is.

I used Transferwise which charged 120 quid for a 20,000 pounds transfer and gave me a better rate than SuperRich (still I had to pay their fee).

All considered it beat OFX (ex UKForex) by 4000 baht.

The rate was 43.27 to the pound at the time I changed.

We are now edging close to me shedding tears, which is what happens every time I think of what happened to the pound in the last 9 months and what that meant to my finances as a result of that... better not mention...

4 minutes ago, berybert said:

You said     'I have transferred 860k THB today from UK and it should arrive tomorrow'.

I take it am wrong again :) I hope so.

 

Yes, you are, and so I hope too :)

I have dual citizenship, resident in UK, but am travelling on my non-UK passport.

My UK passport is still hot from press, tucked away in my money belt. I never used it, I was quite pleased to obtain it but I decided to travel on my other passport so as not to compromise my british resident status.... turned out it was the right call incidentally.

Since I am quite new to all this o, o2, non-o stuff, I'd appreciate if you could positively confirm that I am on the right track now...

12 minutes ago, berybert said:

So you are going to get an  non 0 visa ? Didn't you read the post that says people from the UK cant change from tourist visa to non O.

Post 7 Ubonjoe's post.

 

What makes you think I am from the UK?

I am following post 8 (buick's), if wrong please advise... applying on EU passport, that should be OK right?

1 minute ago, buick said:

5.2 is just photocopy of each page of bank book.  no stamp or anything from your bank.

 

5.3 should be covered by the photocopies of your bank book.  i believe there are transfer codes listed in there that make it clear the money came from overseas.  i was confused about this one also as i noticed the 'bank letter' was just a sentence or two.  wasn't sure about how to prove funds from overseas.  but someone here on TV suggested immigration would look at the codes.

 

i'm pretty sure you can apply immediately after funds are in place (mine had been there a few months as i was out of thailand for a bit).  the big issue for you now is the upcoming songkran holiday.  i imagine CW (if that is where you are going) could get a little crowded in the days leading up to the holiday.  you visit twice, two weeks apart to get the non imm O stamp.  the good news is i don't think all that many people go for 'change visa' so it isn't as long a wait as an extension of tourist visa or visa exempt entry.

 

you should get the bangkok bank letter at CW.  i looked inside the branch to see if it was crowded (about 9am) and it was empty.  i looked on both visits i made (drop off and pick up).  i believe the cost is 100thb.  that branch will know what you need (so did the silom branch that i used).

Fantastic, thanks so much... Wednesday I'll be there.

So, if I get this right, and all goes well:

1 - Wednesday this week I apply for the conversion

2 - Two weeks later I get 90 days

3 - In the past 45 days of those 90 days I apply for the retirement visa proper.

Is that correct? and when will I have to do police clearance and medical certificate?

Just now, chickenslegs said:

Yes. But that is a very easy thing to do on a PCX.

Great! Will post photos if I go ahead with it :)