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2 hours ago, thai3 said:

Tackle a soi dog that bit your kid though and that's a lot more serious!

Ha!  That is so true... capture this guy kicking a dog on camera  and this bozo would be in the klink quick smart.  But heck, he has a good character, and this kid pushed his kid, and he paid his 10K for head surgery... so let's just forget the whole thing.

As four US presidents have been assassinated by gunshot, and a few more 'winged' - including St Ronald - is it a surprise the Secret Service takes seriously anybody's suggestion that the president be shot? Or that a person suggesting the murder of the president be in some hot water for such a suggestion? To cut this guy slack for just venting is a joke, he merits some time in the pokey.

Mid-May, sure, but in what year?

That's great, some mentally unstable guy comes in, tries to steal some Twinkies with a penknife, and he gets stabbed in the chest - and everyone praises the 'plucky' staffer who looks be about twice his size. Next time, let him get away with a few of the pre-packaged food items and even a bit of cash - heaven knows the 7/11 owners can probably cover it.

What a bunch of dopey comments. This lady is clearly mentally ill - not just drunk but screwed up. She needs help and merits some sympathy from you bunch of boozers. Anyone have a daughter out there a little bit off her nut? Imagine waking up to find her on the news like this. I am sorry for her and her family. And the taxi driver.

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How about bringing on a non-Thai international airline CEO and giving them free reign to make the operation profitable. Cut out the freebies you see each time you board - the people you see up in business class while you walk back to cattle section, many of which you know didn't pay for the flight. And fire the board, or anyone who has been on it for more than a few months - as they clearly didn't do their oversight job in the past.

This is how you turn around a failing operation, face be damned. Unfortunately, its never gonna happen.

Sounds like three crimes, including assault. Might be a nice dad, but a crappy citizen. And as he is not a citizen, time to head home, even if it is a home he has never really known. He won't be the only Thai who doesn't speak Thai - and yes, he can always teach English. Heaven knows this country needs that.

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The "group of shareholders" should rather be campaigning, for the Nok management-team to be promoted, and run the main airline instead, since they've demonstrated their professional-ability to run their particular business better than the main-board runs theirs !

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Exactly. If you are losing a half billion dollars a year, do you let board members and their families fly free? Or anyone for that matter, no matter what position they have? A truly professional, independent management team would cut benefits to insiders and especially outsiders before it cuts staff; it would look at anything that doesn't add value and cut it. But this wouldn't suit certain powerful people, would it?

I really like Thai and particularly its staff - flight crews are typically great - but have been on so many of their flights where business class is full, with many non-paying 'customers', while economy is half or less empty. Meanwhile, unused planes are lined up at Don Muang, going to seed, because some people don't want to lose face by selling them at a loss. Someone should be fired, and some professionals brought in and given the independance and responsibility to clean this mess up.

yeah, he take them away, along with Santa and the Easter Bunny...

Just a thought.

If it was not for Suthep Thailand would not be having the problems it is having now? Right or wrong?

Just a thought truth.

If it was not for Thaksin Thailand would not be having the problems it is having now. I won't ask if that is right or wrong as we all know it is the ultimate truth to this mess....

Thaksin is just a symptom, not the disease. The disease is a corrupted, in-transparent system that over-empowers those pulling the levers on either or any side, and doesn't encourage critical thinking by the masses.

All parties must take responsibility.

The PTP and Governmane (and Red Shirts) - must follow the rule of law, must stop insisting on their own way, must be open to reform

The PDRC - must find a way to move away from insisting on complete reforms before elections and insisting that the Shinatawara clan leave politics completely.

The Democrats must find their voice - and be ready to compromise on elections soon and on reforms.

Perhaps if some electoral reforms can happen so that the next election is more fair, safe and honest, and court decisions are NOT ignored, and an election happens soon (in the EC timeframe), things can improve.

.................and the noodle lady MUST put more pork in the noodle soup.

... and the traffic cop MUST quit stopping me on my bike and hitting me with the 500 baht police benevolent fund contribution...

.............and motor cy's must have tail lights that work at night................

... and cars MUST stop for pedestrians at crosswalks!

All parties must take responsibility.

The PTP and Governmane (and Red Shirts) - must follow the rule of law, must stop insisting on their own way, must be open to reform

The PDRC - must find a way to move away from insisting on complete reforms before elections and insisting that the Shinatawara clan leave politics completely.

The Democrats must find their voice - and be ready to compromise on elections soon and on reforms.

Perhaps if some electoral reforms can happen so that the next election is more fair, safe and honest, and court decisions are NOT ignored, and an election happens soon (in the EC timeframe), things can improve.

.................and the noodle lady MUST put more pork in the noodle soup.

... and the traffic cop MUST quit stopping me on my bike and hitting me with the 500 baht police benevolent fund contribution...

Abhisit is a huge disappointment: a coward where we needed a hero.

Balls? They're in someone else's court. And I think that's in one of the 'ammart' courts here in Thailand. (When I write 'court', I am being metaphorical, you understand? Maybe...)

Sure Abhisit has been hampered by his inability to relate to average Thais, and his lack of appeal to the majority of the electorate, but he could have found colleagues -- more popular politicians in the north -- who could have acted as a complement to his intellectual abilities. But now he has completely shot himself in the foot, and no-one will trust him again, after he actually boycotted elections. How foolish!

I'd suggest his best plan now is to emigrate back to the UK. Maybe Eton needs a house master?

"Goodbye Mr AbiChips".

It's true, he is a big disappointment. He appears rational, intelligent - and if he could figure out a way to appear a bit less posh, and have a bit more intestinal fortitude, he might actually be part of the answer. But he can't, he doesn't and he isn't. The country needs some respectable, neutral, benevolent leaders, who people all over can trust to have the Thai nation's interest at heart, not the interest of the farmers, or the elites, the rich or the farmers - or only themselves. I can't say I know them all, but from what I have seen, nobody fits that profile in the political ranks - it is all very tribal, with clear allegiances one side or another. Interesting to see, Thaksin has exposed this huge rift that exists between the upcountry folk and the Bangkok elites, and no easy path can be found to bring them together under a commonly agreed form of government.

There is no solution. There is no hope. The PDRC basically wants to reduce representative government, so that the DP and Bangkok can get back in power. The PTP wants full representative government, majority rule and damn the views of the most powerful and elite in the country. Neither of these is a viable answer - in this day and age, as we have seen in country after country, domination by a minority is only possible with an iron hand and dictatorship. And no country functions well when the elites are cut out - just google "Economic conditions in Venezuela" for an example. So where does that leave Thailand? In an impasse. The elites through their CC or NACC will kick PTP out of government some time soon, most probably - the so-called judicial coup. And then the reds will march, occupy, and the cycle will continue - till somehow the elites figure out a way to share power, reach broader appeal and agree on some middle ground.

this is the guy who BOYCOTTS the elections? the guy who promises to ATTEND the EC meeting then FAILS?

he's got some nerve...

Abhisit doesn't attend the EC meeting because he has been advised by his own political party's security and state security agencies that they believe there is a credible threat against his life and you say, "he's got some nerve…."?

"Democrat Party deputy spokesperson Mallika Boonmeetrakool said yesterday that intelligence sources from the People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC), the Democrat Party and state security agencies all warned that Abhisit would not be safe if he attended the meeting, she said."

On the other side of the equation PTP party leader doesn't show up at the same meeting because of what? And I suppose he has balls of steel?

"Pheu Thai Party leader Charupong Ruangsuwan also did not show up at the meeting"

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/720997-sources-confirm-abhisits-life-under-threat-democrats/

Oh, the PDRC warned him he would not be safe, so he stayed away? Wow, that is a credible threat. Because if he went ahead with elections, did what his party should do in a democracy and contest the election, he would be in serious danger from his own side.

That Abhisit is putting himself forward as the person to lead the effort to find a way out is quite funny. Why is it news? He will be unacceptable, like Yingluck putting herself forward to work with the PDRC.

Who wants to bet this case never doesn't die, it just fades away. There will be delays, balls kicked down the field, and eventually some future government will just drop it. Thailand doesn't want to take on Reuters, but in a place where face is so important, the navy had to do something - so it makes it statement through this filing. There, we said it wasn't true. Not that we can prove it, and perhaps you Reuters can prove that your article was true - I would imagine they have some good evidence - so we make our statement and then turn off the cameras. Don't expect any courtroom hearing where witnesses are trotted out showing high level folk were involved - ain't gonna happen no how.

hahaha... the final battle, before the next final battle. At what point does the finalness of his comments become ridiculous to his listeners? Or are we losing something in the translation?

In large democratic countries, it is pretty typical that millions support the elected government and millions don't. Lack of support from millions in the minority is no reason for a government to have to step down. This is a rather useless opinion piece which highlights the rather light argument on the anti-government side, other than stating the view of the ammart / Bangkok folk that the Shin dominated government has to go. OK, we know that they feel this way, particularly those of us suffering through what has taken place in Bangkok over the last months. So what exactly does this editorial add to that discussion?

Here is a funny case of the CC saying to the NACC 'so, you throw em out'.. and the NACC responding 'no, YOU throw em out'. Neither wants the stink of judicial coup on their shoes, the protests resulting from their actions. It is really a matter of the Central Sukhumvit backroom boys eventually deciding which of these institutions pulls the trigger - neither will be seen as legitimate by the upcountry faction, and the results are still unknown - will it be 2007 all over again, or something more destabilizing? Or will it go over with a whimper? Nobody knows.

It is one thing to say they are going to file suit, another to actually file, and a third to actually pursue that filing to the nth degree. I suspect this is all bluster, blowing wind in their sails, after getting heat for hitting the Phuket paper but not the source, Reuters. As they look at this more closely, and consider actually having people testify, witnesses give evidence, and Resuters give their source materials in open court, don't be surprised to see this die as quiet a death as the Navy can make it.

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Funny to read these comments - gestapo, terror, abuse. Common on folks, this is all part of the political theater, or rather the chess game that is Thai politics. There is no fair process, no rules, just what you can get away with and how it impacts the next situation. Here, Thaksin and his minions have tried to block their opponents from throwing his team out, even if they do remove the PM. Sticking to the colors (and for those of you who will jump in and say 'the yellows are not the PDRC are not the PAD", ok, fine, go back to Zardoz and play in your reality), the reds are setting the stage for dragging the royal institution into the game. So when the CC or NACC (dominated by yellows) rule against Yingluck, they will also move to kick out the cabinet. Thaksin / reds will then appeal to the royal institution - and either win out or drive a wedge further between it and the red masses. Given that the yellows have determined they must get rid of Thaksin and Co, then they will almost certainly move against the cabinet as well, so this is just a strategic move in a long term game, attempting to create more division between Bangkok yellow elites and red poor folk. Simplistic but largely the case.

Wow! We didn’t hear that old cliché of “Bangkok Elite Vs Red poor Folk” for a long time. The latest fashion trend is to use the mantras “Judicial Coup” or ‘Respect my Vote”.

Someone has a problem with respecting the right of people to vote. How utterly Elitists.

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Maybe someone has a problem not with respecting people votes but instead have a big problem with keeping an elected Gov in power when they use and abuse their elected positions for personal and electoral gain and disregard laws and their own constitution. Just because they can buy or even win the majority vote does not mean they should stay in power

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This has nothing or more accurately a limited amount to do with law or democrat principles illegally using elective office. It is about power and control. Thaksin has the majority, that is pretty indisputable. He bought those votes through populist policies? Well, ok, perhaps he did. But as we are seeing here, you can't have a sizable portion of the elites so strongly against you, even with a majority, and have a well functioning society. Thailand needs a way out - one where the majority feels they have a voice and elites feel they are getting their adequately sized slice of the pie. But we are in a time of change, of greater awareness and communication and this is shaking the ground, not just here but in many countries. For Thailand, hopefully the various sides find a way to some middle ground - and best that that include greater transparency and less corruption. I am not betting on it, but that would be the best way forward.