halloween

Do not criticize the NCPO, the junta, or otherwise attempt to disseminate false information which will lead to disharmony and unhappiness. It's the (martial) law.

I believe it is illegal, and has been for some time, to criticise court decisions. The arrest, and the criticism, has nothing to do with those you mention.

At least prayuth didn't nominate himself as Defence Minister, just his old mate and mentor of The Eastern Tigers, retired General Prawit Wongsuwan to keep the troops in check.

Though he did miss a trick, a man with these skills would have been a shoe in as Finance Minister

The Nation October 5, 2012

Former defence minister General Prawit Wongsuwan announced assets worth Bt79.063 million, recording a sharp increase from the Bt9.39 million he declared a year ago.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Korn-declared-richest-Democrat-while-Sutheps-debts-30191739.html

But surely General Prawit Wongsuwan would be much more qualified, if not as well connected, as his predecessor.

I wonder what are ADM Narong Pipatanasai qualifications that he was appointed Education Minister.

An ability tor recognise that over-priced junk tablets are not much of a learning aid is a good start.

"........to strictly observe all rules and regulations of Saudi Arabia ........."

Thailand has enough amputees it seems.

Will they now declare their assets?

With or without billions in "honest mistakes" and shareholdings by domestic staff? If necessary they could have family members lie about ownership in court, assuming the perjury rules of the last government still apply.

I can only presume an answer to my post #233 is beyond, or beneath you. Still, at least this reply of yours allows you to spout the usual.

Oh, by the way the "premeditated murder" case has not been thrown out, as in dismissed. The court recognised that abhisit and sutheps actions directly led to deaths and that the dispersal operations did not follow international standards. In addition the prosecutors can appeal the decision not to hear the case, not to mention that as there is evidence of abhisits and sutheps actions having led to deaths the NACC should be duty bound to raise the case in the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Political Office Holders - but I won't hold my breath, especially in the current "political" climate.

If a court has admitted it has no jurisdiction, how can it then make comment on matters outside its jurisdiction, without relevant evidence being heard?

As I have explained in another thread to whybother, if you bothered to read the link I provided you'd find out.

I read the link, but was unable to find any reference to how a court makes decisions outside its jurisdiction. It might well indicate that there MAY be a case to answer, but expressing any further comment would be unwarranted.

My apologies, I didn't realise it was necessary to read all available threads before replying to your posts.

Some asects of the China program are good but the most worrying thing about it is the potential and actual use it against those who might be seen as opponents of the regime ( gulity or not). Meanwhile those at the very top continue to amass Suharto-esque wealth.

In a Thai forum, it would have been more appropriate to say Shinawatra-esque wealth, assuming they have managed that level of venality.

Ah yes the hand of Thaksin at work again.Strange how these fantasies occupy the minds of some more than the fates of innocents mown down in the street.

Stranger still how others can ignore the man who financed and instigated the riots, and then claim that all those killed were "innocents". You seem to believe that repeating the same lies will make them true, as the memories fog over time, but in my memory the brutish violence of the red shirts remains clear.

There was never a doubt starting with the Army Chief asking for the government to resign and the revelation by Banharn that he was intimidated to join the Dem coalition, making them the majority in Parliment. Without the coercion, there will not be a majority and Ahbisit would not be the puppet PM.

Banharn? I think it was a parties chairman or executive. Banharn was still legally banned from any political involvement.

Anyway, the coercion to form a coalition is something political parties do, even in democracies. Sometimes for money, sometimes for power, almost never out of altruism.

Interesting to read about puppet Abhisit, a term almost always used by opponents only while Ms. Yingluck was named a clone by her own brother.

Well, so much for a court ruling which isn't interesting enough to discuss here it would seem. The nitty-gritty of Law isn't for all I guess.

Not often but I see you agreed with me that there was coercion. Banharn still the defacto leader of CTP and he said coercion through intimidation.

Yes, puppet or crony is not exclusive to the Taksin party.

Really can't see the needs discuss the nitty gritty of law for this topic. Rather straightforward double standard.

My dear sir, you should really refrain from accusations of double standards. You have stated quite clearly that Abhisit was the (puppet) PM, while claiming that the court was wrong in respecting his position, to which he had been duly appointed.

No matter what your thoughts are regarding his appointment, the court decision was the correct one, that they had no jurisdiction. Is that too nitty-gritty for you?

If the farmer thought this through, instead of impulsively taking his own life, he would realize that his family will be in even worse financial straits than before and will now have to add the expense of his funeral. I consider what he did a selfish act with no thought for what would happen to his family. In most everyone's life, there are ups and downs. Suicide, unless you are clinically depressed or have other long-term mental problems, is selfish. Now, he has given up any chance of an improvement in his or his family's life.

Selfish it is not... People have the right to drink, smoke, eat crap food, drive like idiots and so on and kill themselves slowly in front of others,,,,, but cannot just pass on ?

Stating he did it because he had mental illness just shows a lack of anything on your behalf. There is an old saying... "Spend a day in someone else's shoes..... " then pass judgement.... In the meantime, enjoy your latte, take your missus, gf or bf to the cinema, enjoy the day and have a good life ~sic~

Do you really believe that setting fire to yourself is a sane act, even if you condone suicide? Surely he could have "passed on" without the personal pain, and leaving others to clean up his charred corpse, and the memories it would have left his family.

Should they get a discount on his cremation?

I agree with you here. Abhisit new that he was "placed" in the PM spot and that he had a role to play - he was the pretty face and "legitimate" face of the military who gave him his job. Suthep might have thought himself a real player, but was just a useful pawn - as he has continued to be. In the end, when it came to cleaning out the protesters, I doubt that either man had much of a say in the way it was done. The general-now-PM was anti-UDD then and now, and it was clear that the army took few pains to avoid casualties during those 6 days of urban warfare. The deaths in the Wat are but one example. The killing at the gas station another. It was really a pathetic event.

How could the general NOT be anti-UDD? A collection of mercenary propagandists in the pay of a criminal, purporting to represent the people of the North and NE, with no input from those it supposedly represents, preaching political violence and thuggery, while ignoring their wishes in favour of Thaksin's orders. The UDD's position on the amnesty showed their true colours to all, the bloody red of the Judas goat.

Your understanding of the 2010 crisis is very shallow and you really don't understand what I post. Just think through this. Yingluck asked for permission to use the military base for the same reason and was rejected. And the coalition parties that broke rank with PPP was brokered by the Generals. Bottom line, he is just a puppet.

You say permission to use weapons in certain circumstances. Well please explain the circumstances behind the death of the Japanese journalist and the Italian photographer.

If you give permission to use live rounds, you are responsible for its consequences.

Would the responsibility be equal to that of those who financed an uprising., and agitated the ignorant into taking violent action? Is there a difference between a political activist who becomes suddenly wealthy, and a mercenary propagandist?

If you referring to the PAD in 2005 and 2008, I am with you. I am still trying to decipher who is this political activist who suddenly become wealthy.

I was referring to the period of the topic, 2010. Several of the "red leaders" of the time have reported a sudden increase in wealth. Surely they and those that paid them, are liable for the consequences of their actions and the resulting deaths?

Your understanding of the 2010 crisis is very shallow and you really don't understand what I post. Just think through this. Yingluck asked for permission to use the military base for the same reason and was rejected. And the coalition parties that broke rank with PPP was brokered by the Generals. Bottom line, he is just a puppet.

You say permission to use weapons in certain circumstances. Well please explain the circumstances behind the death of the Japanese journalist and the Italian photographer.

If you give permission to use live rounds, you are responsible for its consequences.

Would the responsibility be equal to that of those who financed an uprising., and agitated the ignorant into taking violent action? Is there a difference between a political activist who becomes suddenly wealthy, and a mercenary propagandist?

No such thing as clean coal. Maybe 25 (50) years from now!

What every country with sunlight should be looking at is electricity generated from MSES.

"The Gemasolar plant in Spain is the world's first baseload (24-hour) solar plant using molten salt energy storage. Image courtesy of Torresol Energy."

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Well there are base load stations and base load stations. Bayswater coal fired in Australia has 4 x 660 MW units, would produce more than 200 times the energy (allowing for maintenance down-time), and the price of supply would be FAR lower.

And for a bit of perspective, Oz has enough coal to supply its energy needs for millennia, but instead builds solar plants at ridiculous cost, while exporting coal to anybody willing to buy it - the biggest coal loader in the southern hemisphere is in Newcastle NSW. Meanwhile the cost of energy to consumers spirals far worse than is predicted here, partially because of the subsidies paid to domestic solar producers.

Hydro-electricity is also renewable energy, and much more desirable in nearly all considerations (cost, availability, energy return ratio, responsiveness to load demand, longevity, maintenance costs) but is usually ignored or derided by those pushing the renewable supply wagon, mostly due to technical ignorance IMO.

Questions must be raised on why Ahbisit meekly allowed the military to made all the decision when he cowered inside the military safe house. Even the decision to use elements of the Burapha Payak military group 2nd division was provocative. Known for their strong anti UDD stance and given a blank check by the weak Ahbisit, they were shooting on sight resulting in so many deaths. If only he practiced Yingluck tolerance even under extremely dire situation, many lives would have been saved.

Does completely ignoring the political violence being carried out by her supporters equate to tolerance?

Isn't it strange that the violence has now stopped after the coup, carried out by the supposedly bloodthirsty military?

I can only presume an answer to my post #233 is beyond, or beneath you. Still, at least this reply of yours allows you to spout the usual.

Oh, by the way the "premeditated murder" case has not been thrown out, as in dismissed. The court recognised that abhisit and sutheps actions directly led to deaths and that the dispersal operations did not follow international standards. In addition the prosecutors can appeal the decision not to hear the case, not to mention that as there is evidence of abhisits and sutheps actions having led to deaths the NACC should be duty bound to raise the case in the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Political Office Holders - but I won't hold my breath, especially in the current "political" climate.

If a court has admitted it has no jurisdiction, how can it then make comment on matters outside its jurisdiction, without relevant evidence being heard?