cowboy country

It appears that perhaps Mr. Poletari was probably the kind of guy that wouldn't be very forgiving if he was shot and wounded and allowed to recover. Finishing him off may have been the best way to make the problem go away permanently.

If you are going to mess with Thais, never ever ever mess with Thais in a bar...also taxi or tuk tuk drivers.

He sounds like someone that would have ended his life in jail or by the sword

Fare play you came you played you lost

Lesson for all other forang gangsters you might be big back home but the Thais run this place

Sometimes a killing like this can send a message to all them plastic gangsters out there

555 Pretty sure it sent a message to Leung, the plastic gangster manager of Solo bar,

If you knew how dodgy these people are you wouldn't be here praising them as if they won,

Or is it because you think they are real gangsters that means you think it's a lesson for Falangs?

The guy shoots a guy in cold blood and you call the victim a plastic gangster,

Hope they rot in jail, I've had personal dealings with Leung and couldn't get out of there fast enough...

Controlled by drugged up Mafia...

Will the Thai guy still get back his own gun that he planted in the hands of the Turkish guy ?

Is this bar now closed? Normally in other countries a bar like that would not be allowed to open again.

Solo bar will not be closed, as it is owned by well connected locals. It has been around for many years and used to be located 200 meters further down the small soi it is located at now. Not surprisingly the old location has been turned into a Thai boxing stadium, run by the same locals. Over the years solo bar has been the scene of several shootings, including at least one murdered police officer, and alot of armed fights on top of that. Most of the trouble involved local thugs associated with solo bar in one way or another.

Most expats know solo bars well deserved reputation, and therefore stay far away from the place.

Well said, except caling them well connected locals,

let's be honest, Solo bar is owned by the Chaweng mafia, call them what you will, these people are used to ruling their way and it is good to see some of these dogs arrested at least..

they also own Sound club ( how many murders fights there?) Closes daily at about 8am..

They also own the shooting range...hmmmm..They own many other things and are used to getting their own way..

So now the Junta have the address' of the local mafia, perhaps you could put the pressure right on them,

for those claiming the RTP did a great job, what about the initial report where they ran with the he drew first story..When will they investigate properly without releaseing early statememnts that make them look corrupt...We all know that these bars normally get the utmost police protection, heck even a cop was killed in there and nothing happened..If they had no cctv like Mon at koh tao we'd all still be being fed the first story...

So every staff member would have lied that first night, will there be charges for impeding an investigation, hahaa, no, just 2 gulty dogs here, go to these places at your own peril...

This is what I think and I'm entitled to my own opinion.

There are no serial killer on this island.

We have two murders and the suspects has been arrested. They are Burmese and the trial is coming up soon.

All the other incidents on the island recently are related to suicide, accidents and now this girl tragic death.

Yesterday a man was found drowned in Jomtien beach. It's high season and many tourists around , every week we will hear about trragi deaths, not only on Koh Tao.

This is my opinion, now please continue to speculate all you want about a possible serial killer.

There were 3 sets of DNA found on Hannah and you know it, so are you on the payroll or is your head in the sand...

Do you think they got the French man with his hands tied behind his back right when they called it suicide? Lucky11 were you involved in that murder?

Sorry, damn keyboard error, were you involved in that suicide investigation?

A valium and alcohol will have virtually zero additional effect, like an extra drink or two.

Technically it's possible that it can kill you but I believe you would need to consume a huge amount of both alcohol and valium for this to happen. It wouldn't happen by accident.

Certain painkillers which won't generally be available in Thailand are something different entirely, a few of them with a night of drinking can send you directly to the morgue just like all those hollywood types who occasionally die. They often take valium too but it's the opiate based medications that do the damage.

Why don't we just assume that it was a drug/alcohol combination that caused her death and cut out the 'forensic doctor pretence crap'!!

Are all of the doubters that were doing overtime yesterday satisfied now, or are you going to wait for the UK autopsy that won't happen to prove beyond all doubt that it was an unfortunate accidental death?

I bet that you are still working on ways to implicate the secret Mafia of Koh Tao into the story!!. You are very amusing indeed.

'Just assume' !? Convinced now you are a RTP employee or Mon.

I've already admitted to being the mayor's brother and have to own up that I am in the RTP - not sure what a mon is but I am probably one of them as well!!

LOL, not sure what a mon is....You're a cop on Koh Tao and don't know Mon...BWAAAAHAAAAA...please enough dribble you are digging such a big hole..

Testerday you wrote she was murdered and claimed it was a keyboard error...today you're a cop..So were you involved in the Double murder?

Themurder investigation I mean of course, damn keyboard errors...

A valium and alcohol will have virtually zero additional effect, like an extra drink or two.

Technically it's possible that it can kill you but I believe you would need to consume a huge amount of both alcohol and valium for this to happen. It wouldn't happen by accident.

Certain painkillers which won't generally be available in Thailand are something different entirely, a few of them with a night of drinking can send you directly to the morgue just like all those hollywood types who occasionally die. They often take valium too but it's the opiate based medications that do the damage.

Why don't we just assume that it was a drug/alcohol combination that caused her death and cut out the 'forensic doctor pretence crap'!!

Are all of the doubters that were doing overtime yesterday satisfied now, or are you going to wait for the UK autopsy that won't happen to prove beyond all doubt that it was an unfortunate accidental death?

I bet that you are still working on ways to implicate the secret Mafia of Koh Tao into the story!!. You are very amusing indeed.

'Just assume' !? Convinced now you are a RTP employee or Mon.

I've already admitted to being the mayor's brother and have to own up that I am in the RTP - not sure what a mon is but I am probably one of them as well!!

LOL, not sure what a mon is....You're a cop on Koh Tao and don't know Mon...BWAAAAHAAAAA...please enough dribble you are digging such a big hole..

A valium and alcohol will have virtually zero additional effect, like an extra drink or two.

Technically it's possible that it can kill you but I believe you would need to consume a huge amount of both alcohol and valium for this to happen. It wouldn't happen by accident.

Certain painkillers which won't generally be available in Thailand are something different entirely, a few of them with a night of drinking can send you directly to the morgue just like all those hollywood types who occasionally die. They often take valium too but it's the opiate based medications that do the damage.

The RTP say she had the medicine in her room, what they don't say is what meds were prescribed in the UK. If not from the UK why would someone that

seemed to be a lively and happy person go and buy valium. Did she buy valium from a local pharmacy?? If not then who gave it to her

Of course the alcohol may have been the illegal stuff that is sold on the Island and has been known to poison Farang's.

Seems to me that there are a number of avenue's to be investigated but will it happen. One thing is for sure, the number of deaths of young people is

far higher than normal.

I've never once seen meds sold in a bottle here in over 20 years living here, always in plastic zip bags with the instructions written on in Thai by the salesperson...not many of them are actual pharmacists...And you can still pretty much get what you need if you pay and search around for the dodgy ones...The p[lace reeks as a result, not to mention the Ya ba freaks you see around...There's a well known Doctor in Samui named Dr death, who also sell on medical certificates for working girls who need a HIV clearance to work...Sick of this rubbish, had a dear friend who lost the plot to candy store chemists...tidy it up Junta...especially the islands...No coincidence Dr death trades in a street controlled by the local kingpins Soi solo...there you go Mr General, you've been told about mafia, it's no secret....

A valium and alcohol will have virtually zero additional effect, like an extra drink or two.

Technically it's possible that it can kill you but I believe you would need to consume a huge amount of both alcohol and valium for this to happen. It wouldn't happen by accident.

Certain painkillers which won't generally be available in Thailand are something different entirely, a few of them with a night of drinking can send you directly to the morgue just like all those hollywood types who occasionally die. They often take valium too but it's the opiate based medications that do the damage.

Why don't we just assume that it was a drug/alcohol combination that caused her death and cut out the 'forensic doctor pretence crap'!!

Are all of the doubters that were doing overtime yesterday satisfied now, or are you going to wait for the UK autopsy that won't happen to prove beyond all doubt that it was an unfortunate accidental death?

I bet that you are still working on ways to implicate the secret Mafia of Koh Tao into the story!!. You are very amusing indeed.

Aah the mayor's brother...

The mafia on Koh Tao is no longer a secret, haven't you heard...

Anyway, can you explain why Mon was on the crime scene again?

Can you explain why at first it was said a spare key was used and next minute it seems her door was left open, amidst reports she was naked that is not strange to you, do you not think someone would lock their door whilst staying 100 metres from where there was a double murder followed by a perverse rape...

What about the girl who said Mon said, she wanted to commit suicide, did Mon say that,

pretty sure Sean said Mon said similar things...

If he's not the mafia, you've just arrived...tell us Mayor's brother, what is your official status there...or is it all a bit embarrassing now...Twenty years on these islands tell me you are full of diatribe fed by your elders you little puppy, sick puppy at that..

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Backpackers here get excited about what's freely availlable in the pharmacy's. Valium is just one of them.

But why do UK-girls want to be pissed all the time? On a place like Koh Tao you can be happy without any drugs i guess.

pharmacies in Thailand are actually relatively strict as to what you can buy over the counter....the real marketplace is Laos or Cambodia!

Not on the islands....you find me a pharmacy where you need to spend 3000 baht on antibiotics alone...Koh Tao is a law unto itself...

British girl on Koh Tao may have died from own medication

BANGKOK: -- A British political activist found dead at a bungalow on Koh Tao last week may have died from her own medication used to cure her chronic sickness.

The theory of Ms Christina Annesley’s death was revealed by head of the Institute of Forensic Medicine Pol Maj Gen Pornchai Suthirakun today.

He said autopsy found no traces of narcotic substance in her body and it was believed medication she took for a chronic illness may have caused her death.

He said however that autopsy scientists would try to identify the medication and determine its effects.

However he stated that this would take longer time than the drugs test because of the complexity of the medication.

But at a press conference today Royal Thai Poluce spokesman Pol Lt-Gen Prawuthi Thavornsiri said autopsy showed there were traces of valium and alcohol in the body and might cause death.

The two substances might interact with her medication and thus could effect the breathing system. But this depended on the quantity of doses, coupled with her physical health.

Autopsy scientists would examine in details of the tissues to establish the real cause. The result would be known January 29, he added.

Christina Annesley, 23, from Orpington in London was found dead in a bungalow on Sairee beach of Koh Tao in Surat Thani province on January 21 at the same place as where two British tourists, Hannah Witheridge and David Miller, were found murdered in September last year.

There was no evidence of violence. She was on a bed with a blanket over her. Police found medications in her room. She checked in on January 19.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/british-girl-koh-tao-may-die-medication

-- Thai PBS 2015-01-27

Hmm, she tells the world she's had Tmamadol, they find Valium and Alcohol...

Do they reall know what they are doing here? Again releasing incorrect details along the way..

In the initial reports it was stated that the door was opened with a spare key by a staff member..Now we hear that her door was left open.....All this in the house of the local headman Mon.......Starting to stink in here again...Or should i say it looks like the stench is here to stay..Someone suggested that Mon's son Nomsod was in the temple her body was kept at doing Monk duties...now that's a sick thought given his taste for the afterlife...Sick puppies will not be forgotten..

This threads gone very very quiet, anybody seen Lucky11? I want to know how the mayor is feeling today?

Or maybe their at the buffalo fights...hope they clean up on the punt so they can cheer up..

"a retired police officer-turned-taxi driver"

Who'd have thunk it?

Was funny how after he was told he was going to show the video to the police by the Japanes man he told him he would give him a discount....Offered him 20 baht off, and when the chap pointed out that he was being ripped off 40 baht the Taxi Driver/Ex cop laughed at him, hopefully social media can keep these rats honest, film them and share them people...

He's a post I just put on another thread but it's quite relevant here as well...

^{When they first declared all Taxi's would have to run meters, there were huge rumblings down here in Samui,}

^{First of all the taxis had to put in meters as before it was a minimum of 250 to go a few hundred metres and 3 kilometres would be about 500 baht..}

^{I spoke to a few of the drivers and they weren't happy, they had a meeting and all got large stickers on the side that there was a 100 fee to start the ride and then would be metered from there..Guess what, it never happened, they still refuse to turn on the meters and it costs 250 baht mininum to go anywhere on an island that has little traffic compared to the mainland.Fter 11pm or so you can Double that price, If you want to travel 30 kilometrtes after going to a club till 3am you are looking at about 1200 baht, if you can speak Thai and know the routine, otherwise add another 3-400 baht...But they get away with it}

Because this little island is controlled by Mafia who are also the Taxi drivers boss'..It's a well known fact, has been that way for over 20 years and they all carry weapons in their car and are not scared to show them off....

If coming From the airport to 3 kilometres away any time of day is 400 baht...If you speak Thai..500 otherwise!!!!

Please can someone sort this out, no other hard working Thai's make 4-5000 baht a day....

The local mafia taxi and Police make me want to puke....Sort it out Junta..

^{When they first declared all Taxi's would have to run meters, there were huge rumblings down here in Samui,}

^{First of all the taxis had to put in meters as before it was a minimum of 250 to go a few hundred metres and 3 kilometres would be about 500 baht..}

^{I spoke to a few of the drivers and they weren't happy, they had a meeting and all got large stickers on the side that there was a 100 fee to start the ride and then would be metered from there..Guess what, it never happened, they still refuse to turn on the meters and it costs 250 baht mininum to go anywhere on an island that has little traffic compared to the mainland.Fter 11pm or so you can Double that price, If you want to travel 30 kilometrtes after going to a club till 3am you are looking at about 1200 baht, if you can speak Thai and know the routine, otherwise add another 3-400 baht...But they get away with it}

Because this little island is controlled by Mafia who are also the Taxi drivers boss'..It's a well known fact, has been that way for over 20 years and they all carry weapons in their car and are not scared to show them off....

If coming From the airport to 3 kilometres away any time of day is 400 baht...If you speak Thai..500 otherwise!!!!

Please can someone sort this out, no other hard working Thai's make 4-5000 baht a day....

The local mafia taxi and Police make me want to puke....Sort it out Junta..

The problem is that Prayut, the royal establishment and the Bangkok elite, truly believe from the bottom of their hearts that true democracy is only reserved for the rich and powerful. In their eyes the poor should have no say on who rules the country and the US is fully aware of this. The US will ramp up the pressure now, notice the timing of this high level visit?

Problem is the US is very much out of touch with the political situation in Thailand.

Perhaps it would be wiser for the US to first engage brain before opening mouth.

How exactly is the US out of touch?

Are you in touch?

I'm pretty sure that Mon and the Koh Tao mafia are intouch...

that's the line we've been fed anyway..

How hard would it be for the General and even Thai Visa to get someone with decent English skills to proof read this stuff so they stop looking like dunces,

"I'm sorry we've been friends for such a long time" oh dear, how embarrassment.

Those damn foreigners. They are always trying to mess up our party. And they cause us great pain, when they say bad things about us. It seems to us like they are making all this stuff up. All the weird rumors about military coups, press censorship, human rights violations, migrant worker issues. When will those foreigners just leave us alone. It used to be so much better without all the social media, and all that international news. Who needs it?

Bingo...still can't believe this one that vanished very very quickly, now what was that release based on again? Police Farce...Thailand you're soaking in it...Som num na..

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/762910-koh-tao-murders-police-free-bar-owners-and-look-for-ex-village-headmans-son/

So the Mayor is working close together with the mafia on the island , and he is protecting a serial killer. Is that the conclusion of our Thaivisa detectives ?

Could you please ask the Mare or Mon to confirm if any of the bungling cops on the double murder outside his place got transferred to Burriram? seems to be a consistency with this latest story regarding a dead falang with massive head injuries, this one's an accident....LOL

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/mystery-over-death-of-irish-man-in-thailand-30936941.html

So the Mayor is working close together with the mafia on the island , and he is protecting a serial killer. Is that the conclusion of our Thaivisa detectives ?

Yes something like that, tell us what you know and I'll do the same..

Prostitiution is illegal..

Drink driving is illegal..

No helmet/license/roadworthy is illegal..

Criticising the Police on social media is illegal.

Buying Valium without prescription is illegal..

Magic Mushrooms are illegal..

Tourism is down, way down...

For every Thai Visa detective there is a JTJ aias sooking and lying about his loss of face and money...

There were 3 sets of DNA on Hannah..

They're not looking for a 3rd person..

3 days after the double murders head of investigation declares they are looking for son of head man and accomplice who had fled,

then the same head officer is stood down and never to be heard of again,

next minute we're being told to shut up, nothing to see here...

Now if we're detectives what are you exactly?

Surely the best course of action is for the mayor to station and instruct his police farce force at the landing points on Koh Tao to immediately return any U.K. passport holder back to the mainland post haste with a ''persona non grata'' stamp in their passports.

That small action alone will totally halt any further comments being made by the British visitors to the British press that may tarnish the islands reputation

Simple task, so easy to cover the truth in ones own little fiefdom isn't?

Nope, he's letting his 11 year old brother Lucky sort out the social media...he's an internet warrior!!

Source Dictionary.com

judicial inquiry by a group of persons appointed by a court. The most common type is the inquest set up to investigate a death apparently occasioned by unnatural means.

Witnesses are examined, and a special jury returns a verdict on the cause of death. In England inquests are also required when there is loss or injury in a fire.

The inquest is confined to common-law jurisdictions that have a coroner system

I guess I was wrong and ThailandChili had his head screwed on correct. My apologies ThailandChili.

What has this got to do with an investigation/inquest into her death?

It isn't a judicial enquiry, her death was not unnatural and there are no witnesses to examine plus there wasn't a fire involved.

It also didn't happen in the UK. Other than that I suppose one is possible!!.

Boy if your brother the Mare was peed off at what the UK press were writing wait till you get home and he sees the hole you've been digging...Hilarious...Just hope he doesn't start to get you to dig with a trowell or something similar which is the way around there.....

I didn't need to do an investigation as the evidence presents itself (nobody suspects foul play) not the police, parents. friends and anyone with a modicum of common sense. The fact that you don't see this must mean..........................

But you yourself stated that she was murdered......

Can you define murder ?

If she was sold drugs that are illegal in Thailand, what would make the person that sold them ?

A pharmacist in need of a quick earn because there are Nofricketourists...

No!!, I don't - but her parents described it as this (not me). They clearly didn't need the results of an autopsy to determine this (even if their choice of words is not accurate) they have simply used common sense to come to this conclusion - something that an alarmingly high proportion of TV members seem to lack at times!! .

Do you think all parents have common sense in their statements when they lose a loved one? If so then we really do need to listen to these ones also

The parents of a British holidaymaker who died in suspicious circumstances in Thailand are convinced he was murdered – and the killing covered up to protect tourism.

Nick Pearson, 25, was on a family vacation to the island of Koh Tao when he was found dead on New Year’s Day. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/thailand-beach-death-parents-convinced-4410135

OK!! So I take it that you think that she WAS murdered by the Mafia then!! Yes?

So there is a mafia? Now you're just not sure if this one is their doing? Or was that another keyboard slip...

Epic lulz thanks, what's your job anyway? Or is that your titile? Mayors brother?

Angered???...Gee I wonder why?...Time to wake up Mr Mayor and stop your crying

The British press have got it wrong again (as they did with Hannah and David's murder).

The murdered woman's family have stated that she died of natural causes and not under suspicious circumstances!!

If they (the UK gutter press) had written about there being a Mafia culture on Koh Toh then fair enough BUT linking this death to Mafia gangs is bang out of order and I don't blame the Mayor for being enraged about shoddy/outrageous reporting.

This dude knows something.

OK, a slip of the keyboard - I do not think she was murdered, please replace this word with dead and the rest of the post stands. My mistake.

Ahh the good old slip of the keyboard means the mystyping of a word like , instead of typing lye you might type lie,

typing murdered instead of died of natural causes is not a slip of the keyboard,

maybe this is why your brother is the Mayor and you're on here trying to translate for him..

Tak about putting your foot in it,

tipping you don't know the difference between &lt;deleted&gt; and shinola..

If you are really his brother please explain there is a big difference between natural causes and accidental suicide....Not on iilegal drugs either, just 3000 bahts worth of Valiums that she bought at the local pharmacy without a prescription....Perhaps tell your bro to crack down on that or is this another case where Koh Tau is a law unto itself...

Its there countrylet them run it how they see fit .I wish my government would quit trying to change the world . It cant even fix itself .

Hmmm, need to ask, which country is your government from, because if you're trying to pretend to be an American it would help if you had basic grade 2 English skills, pretty sure you are pretending to be from there...Where are you from really, be honest now...

"And here we were, innocently eradicating the right to free speech, ending free elections, and declaring that martial law will never end."

Don't worry, now that we can read everyone's emails without any laws to get in the way, all these problems will go away very soon.

Nope the problems will exist till they find 2 or 3 people who can speak Thai and English without having to rely on Google translate to write a press release, or make new laws etc...Till then we'll have to keep hearing stuff like, "there is no way would could ask for a bribe as we are not proficient in English" as I read on another article on Thai Visa today regarding police corruption...Bunch of mental Pygmies...

Does anybody think this is a bit odd

British daily The Telegraph said Christina's mother Margaret had posted on her daughter's Facebook page saying she had died of "natural causes" . The Facebook page appeared to be inaccessible Friday - the actual post read - We have lost our beautiful daughter Chrissie in Thailand of natural causes.

If you have just found out your 23 year old daughter has died, would you really want to post on her FB that it was natural causes? that would be the last thing I would be thinking of doing, especially before any kind of autopsy, why did the Mum need to clarify that? perhaps she was advised to put it? perhaps it was not her? my best friend died of cancer and at no point did I feel like writing - 'I have just lost my best friend to cancer', struck me as rather odd as did this bit of reporting on Friday -

The autopsy is not likely to be carried out before Sunday as officials have to wait for a ferry to the mainland.

"There is no ferry today so we will send her body on Saturday night to arrive on the mainland Sunday morning," Lieutenant Colonel Napa said.

Do they not use regular ferries then?

Also this was on her FB page

Arta Ad R.I.P little Girl i was at the samd time at this Hotel and i can forgett how the Police took you out of the room

I feel so sad about you and I am so angry about the owner from the Hotel because they Talk bullshit!!!

After 15 min they clean the room and gives that to another Tourist ( i am sorry for my bad english) but i think the World should know that !!!!

I feel so sorry for the Family

Now you see when we hear stories like this. And we know the history of that bar. And the suspicion around that bar owner.

We wonder !!! And it is said that her body has been held at the Temple with no refrigeration. The same temple that nomsod is a monk at.

Like Hannah we will never know the truth of this.

I do wish people would stop blaming the victim.

What??? Nomsod is a monk at the temple she was kept at???

If this is true it's very very weird,

can you please help verify that, Nomsod is in Koh tao and not at UNi..

Did he do something wrong he has to repent for?

Given there was rape after the two brits were murdered this is a very disturbing thought that this son of the headman is nearby......