IslandLover

19 minutes ago, Susco said:

 

Yes good idea to keep your mouth shut, since UK police provided crucial evidence that got them convicted

If you mean the details of David Miller's phone then what they did was illegal and it is a contentious issue.  Wai Phyo was convicted of stealing David Miller's phone and it was therefore inferred by the prosecution that he was involved in the murder of David Miller.  Equally, he could have been telling the truth when he said he found it on the beach.  Zaw Lin had nothing whatsoever to do with the phone, yet he was convicted of the murders as well. The "phone evidence" - illegally obtained and contentious, and submitted with great fanfare at the very last minute in court - appeared to be the deciding factor in this case ????.

3 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

I don't think your qualified to speak for "everyone". You also refer to grown men as "kids".

 

What happened in the horrific murders of 2 innocent young people will, as with Kirsty Jones, never be known.

 

Again, were a timeline of police actions produced, the conflicting bu$$ers muddle would likely appear that there was massive interference. Whether these two Burmese men were involved in some way, and to what extent will not be known. Nor who else was involved and what role they played.

 

The quick to disappear oddball Scottish scared "witness"; the headman's son and brother; the absolute confidence of the first senior policeman who thought he'd got the case solved only to be suddenly transferred off and replaced by another who came up with a completely different solution; the very odd CCTV which showed a suspect with an unusual walk; the very odd CCTV which "proved" said suspect was in Bangkok at the time of the murder and appears to have a badly altered date on it; the subsequent press conference by the headman and the then national police chief saying the headman's son was totally innocent and shouldn't be presecuted; Scotland Yards somewhat odd input; the missing DNA evidence; etc etc etc.

 

All which could lead to considerable speculation. But those that know are saying nowt! And like the Blue Diamond theft and associated murders; Kirsty Jones rape and murder; Billy the activist's mysterious disappearance and probably murder; and several more similar cases, they will never be solved publicly.

 

 

Thank you for remembering the key facts in this case so well.  Others on this forum appear to have no clue.

You are absolutely correct when you say that this case will never be solved publicly.  No-one, including those screaming GUILTY, knows what really happened that night, apart from the perpetrators, whoever they may be.

1 hour ago, IslandLover said:

@khunPer - Are you able to share the link to that Facebook group on here?  I would be interested to see some of the old photos.  I first visited Samui in the late 1980s.  I can't remember exactly when but it was before the airport opened.  I took the overnight bus from Bangkok to Surat Thani and then the ferry to Samui.  I stayed on Chaweng which was just a dirt road with few buildings.  I stayed at the Pansea resort (sister hotel to the Pansea resort in Phuket, which became the Chedi and is now the Surin).  It was the only "hotel" on Chaweng at the time and I'm wondering if anyone remembers it or has photos.  It was a low-rise building right on the beach with wooden walkways everywhere and I have very fond memories of it.  The next time I visited Samui, it wasn't there.  If you cannot share the link to the Facebook group on here, please PM me.

Actually, now I remember it, the Pansea resort was bungalows, not a low-rise building.

2 minutes ago, khunPer said:

The airport opened in 1989. The photos are among others from a public Facebook group just named "Koh Samui", and another source is a friend with a public shared album with a huge collection of old time Samui images "SAMUI - The Old Days"...????

Thanks very much.

2 hours ago, khunPer said:

Yes 1997 of course, my mistake printing 8 isf. 9...
It has been shared several times in a Facebook groups with old photos from Samui.

@khunPer - Are you able to share the link to that Facebook group on here?  I would be interested to see some of the old photos.  I first visited Samui in the late 1980s.  I can't remember exactly when but it was before the airport opened.  I took the overnight bus from Bangkok to Surat Thani and then the ferry to Samui.  I stayed on Chaweng which was just a dirt road with few buildings.  I stayed at the Pansea resort (sister hotel to the Pansea resort in Phuket, which became the Chedi and is now the Surin).  It was the only "hotel" on Chaweng at the time and I'm wondering if anyone remembers it or has photos.  It was a low-rise building right on the beach with wooden walkways everywhere and I have very fond memories of it.  The next time I visited Samui, it wasn't there.  If you cannot share the link to the Facebook group on here, please PM me.

4 hours ago, steven100 said:

i see .... is that an American term  ?  in Australia it's just a gambler .. 

No, "punter" is British English slang.

6 hours ago, Gene1960 said:

It's 5 knots. There is a big sign on the Chanel exit from. Boat Lagoon. 

R. I. P. 

Thanks.  That confirms my recollections of that channel.  I think there is more than one sign.

On 12/19/2019 at 8:22 AM, sketcher said:

The gin palace is 72ft!!

This is a gin palace 

4 hours ago, CNXexpat said:

I guess the Russian was sick or got too much sun. It´s not so easy to drown in a flat sea during snorkeling.

Personally, I don't understand why so many people drown whilst snorkelling.  I'm not the world's strongest swimmer but I've snorkelled all over the tropics, sometimes in quite rough water.  If you have a decent mask which doesn't let in water, and proper fins, you just float.  It requires a lot less energy than actually swimming.

3 hours ago, Just Weird said:

I suppose that depends either on whether you condone serial illegal activity, or whether you like the phrase just because it you think that it gives you some kind of obtuse 'credibility' by being seen as a supporter of criminal activity.

Nobody likes a grass

8 hours ago, Just Weird said:

That is not what was "the media" asked, webfact/Admin; in reality, the media asked that the 1178 hotline be used. 

Snitch-line is so much more descriptive ????

6 hours ago, Scot123 said:

This really disgusts me. The way people are paraded in front of the media like master criminals; degraded and humiliated paraded with xenophobic words that would cause such outcry if used to describe Asians (christ how upset they got over Clarkson's "it's got a slant on it" talking about a rickety wooden bridge that had a slant). Yep people on here cheer and chant "kill, kill, kill" it disgusts me. Immigration police should look for and deport Overstayers and deport them even banning for life (a bit harsh but OK if you must). Best of luck Mr Russian man hope your journey now is short and swift to get out of Thailand and you manage to sort out your affairs. 

Actually the word Clarkson used was "slope" which was an "insult" that hardly anybody had heard of until the mass hysteria set in.

2 hours ago, yogi100 said:

 

Where is your proof the bouncer was not drugged up? Drugs such as cocaine and steroids can often make a user become violent and aggressive.

 

Ya ba will do.

On ‎10‎/‎31‎/‎2019 at 5:07 PM, kingofthemountain said:

Yep

i noticed it in my post n 37

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The presentation of this ''news'' is an asolute non sense and a shame for the journalism.

The facts are old from more one year (May 2018) the gogo Mandarin is close since long time now, the bouncer has been tried and relaxed in a self defense case, the victim died 10 months later in England and so on''

 

i don't even know why it's presented like the new of the day

 

It is a report of the Inquest in the U.K. into the man's death.  That's why it's in the news now.  Inquests are held several months (and in some cases years) after a person's death.

On ‎10‎/‎31‎/‎2019 at 5:05 PM, marcus111 said:

Very sorry to his family for what has happened however we do not know all the facts.

Alcohol i suggest was a major factor as regards what happened, we will find out in due course.

But my gripe is why do the press always seem to headline something like this as "GULF WAR VETERAN".

We do not know what the man did as regards in the military.

He might have been a pencil pusher...A cook...A store manager.

Why the tag "GULF WAR VETERAN".

Not everyone is a hero as is suggested from these press posts.

We do not know what the man did as regards in the military.

He might have been a pencil pusher...A cook...A store manager.

The man was an army OFFICER who had fought in the Gulf War (hence the term GULF WAR VETERAN).  Try reading the article.

Mike, of Cowbridge, Vale of Glamorgan, graduated as an officer in the Army in 1984 and served in the first Gulf War.

7 hours ago, worgeordie said:

There was a story on the BBC just the other day,about Asia Hornets

arriving in the UK.

 

Twice we have those very big  black and yellow hornets nests in the

eves of the house,tackled them at night,with, big pole with some termite

spray on a cloth,and forced it into the nest, by the next afternoon,

they had the nest all repaired as good as new,next put petrol on the

rag and pushed it into nest,had to do that a few times to finally get

rid of them,we have a couple of bee nests in the garden but just

leave them alone.

regards worgeordie

The Asian hornet (Vespa velutina) is becoming a serious problem in Europe, after being introduced from China in 2005.  They are a serious predator of honeybees.  They are all over France and I have seen them for myself.  A relative near Paris had a nest in her chimney.  The fire brigade had to come and remove them.  Horrible things.  

7 hours ago, DannyCarlton said:

I'll take your word for it but the currnt Luke is said to be 43. Luke Cook must be 40+ now.

 

On looking at the OP again, agree, looks nothing like Luke Cook.

His name is Luke Anderson, according to this article from Associated Press.

"Police say they arrested Luke Anderson on Thursday after meeting with Australian Embassy officials on the problem of outlaw motorbike gangs. They say they have revoked his visa and will deport him."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/thai-police-arrest-australian-hells-104452521.html

1 hour ago, geisha said:

I really  think that when boarding, the ground staff should check every passenger for signs of being drunk. These  travellers are a threat to security and make the 200/500 travellers voyage a nightmare. My flights have been completely spoiled 3 times, a drunk laying in the aisle , a young man vomiting all over the place, and the cherry on the cake, a completely drunk man allowed to board a Lufthansa flight , created havoc, smoked, threw things around, and finally his meal tray all over my direct neighbour ! All this despite me signalling the stewards before takeoff that he was in a bad way. My neighbour and I refused to stay in our seats and were finally moved behind the cockpit where the pilots rest seats are. The man was handcuffed to his seat and arrested on arrival. My seat neighbour and myself got to see the landing, which was great, but what a way to start a holiday.

Another article from the source of this OP - today's Daily Mail.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7595551/Royal-Marine-35-unleashed-drunken-foul-mouthed-tirade-Manchester-airport-staff.html

The passenger was denied boarding by airport staff for being drunk.

"A boozed-up Royal Marine branded a Manchester airport attendant a 'fat <deleted> tart in Primark shoes' when she stopped him from boarding his Ryanair flight to Ibiza.

Benjamin Hoyle, 35, flew into a blistering sweary rant when he was prevented from flying from Manchester after sinking multiple beers and draining a bottle of Captain Morgan's rum from duty free."

The reason these drunk passengers were not denied boarding at Moscow Airport is unknown but the fact that the flight itself was "alcohol free" speaks volumes.  Presumably they have had problems before.

1 hour ago, geisha said:

I really  think that when boarding, the ground staff should check every passenger for signs of being drunk. These  travellers are a threat to security and make the 200/500 travellers voyage a nightmare. My flights have been completely spoiled 3 times, a drunk laying in the aisle , a young man vomiting all over the place, and the cherry on the cake, a completely drunk man allowed to board a Lufthansa flight , created havoc, smoked, threw things around, and finally his meal tray all over my direct neighbour ! All this despite me signalling the stewards before takeoff that he was in a bad way. My neighbour and I refused to stay in our seats and were finally moved behind the cockpit where the pilots rest seats are. The man was handcuffed to his seat and arrested on arrival. My seat neighbour and myself got to see the landing, which was great, but what a way to start a holiday.

They do and if the passenger is deemed too drunk, he/she can be denied boarding, but in practice this is not always possible.  However, the final decision on whether to leave a passenger behind rests with the captain.

There have also been instances when a member of the flight deck crew has been ejected from a flight for being drunk.

On 10/20/2019 at 1:53 AM, steven100 said:

It is always a concern when drunk and rowdy passengers board a plane.

To assist in such an event, cable ties and a stun gun should be added to the emergency kit.

 

 

 

Restraining devices, including handcuffs, ARE carried on many airlines to deal with unruly passengers.  My husband tells me Aer Lingus also used to carry a "straight jacket" on board for this purpose!  I kid you not!  Did you know that the flight crew has an axe in the cockpit? 

On ‎9‎/‎20‎/‎2019 at 10:38 AM, bander said:

Right and maybe he can get a fair trail without any corrupted judge and jury .

We have yet to hear Mr. Bullman's statement, he was stabbed in the shoulder prior to the choke grip if I remember right.

My impression of Indian businessmen are mixed, mostly they are provocative, rude, intrusive and not afraid to insult strangers.

I'm talking about the tailor shop Indians in Phuket, Pattaya, Bangkok, Singapore and Hong-Kong.

Anybody who have been approach by an Indian salesman on the sidewalk or shoppingsenter can confirm this.

We have yet to hear Mr. Bullman's statement, he was stabbed in the shoulder prior to the choke grip if I remember right.

He was stabbed on the shoulder during the choke grip.  The Phuket police have confirmed this.

As to your comments about Indian businessmen …………..

Lots of details here:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7486243/Interpol-launches-hunt-Norwegian-bodybuilder-choked-British-father-death-Thailand.html

The article says he escaped over the border to Cambodia at some time after 31 August, which was the last time his credit card was used in Phuket, and then on to Vietnam.  He visited the Norwegian Embassy in Hanoi last Friday to report that he had lost his passport and applied for a replacement.

"Thai police have contacted the embassy warning that Bullman is a fugitive wanted for manslaughter. 

Interpol has been brought in to help co-ordinate the hunt and to work with both Vietnamese and Thai police.

An investigation is underway in Phuket to establish how Bullman escaped and what help he received."

Let's hope he is caught.

It seems the Daily Mail is partly responsible for him doing a runner, after they published photos of him lounging around in a swimming pool while on bail. 

"Bullman absconded less than a day after MailOnline tracked him down to a beachside guest house at Karon, Phuket.

The 'crazed' killer told MailOnline that he was frightened of the potential long prison sentence he was facing."

3 hours ago, smudger1951 said:

I do wonder what are the conditions of bail ? Do you have to report everyday and Passport withheld. Anyway, how did he get out quite probably in a neighbouring country.

He was photographed by the British press lounging around in a hotel pool while "on bail".  He appeared not to have a care in the world.  As soon as those reports were published, he did a runner, after ignoring a Court Summons to present himself to the authorities.

2 minutes ago, Pique Dard said:

he was on meth, i guess!

Or steroids.  He was also allegedly drunk.

6 hours ago, friend of siam said:

the norwegian said it was self defense because the british indian man attacked him w. a. knife ..

u need a court decision before jumping to solutions / a la horrible crime ? / ..

now as he jumped bail this is not looking good...the saga to be continued..as always in thailand there is much more to the story than the part that meets the public eye. 

The truth of the matter is the Norwegian man attacked first and the British victim tried to defend himself with a "butter knife" grabbed from inside his hotel room.  The Phuket police have now admitted this after examining forensic evidence.  The Norwegian man was hardly wounded as the knife bent in half due to its flimsy construction.  He held the victim from behind in a choke hold and the victim tried to defend himself.