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49 minutes ago, nontabury said:

Tens of thousands of Thais. You could't be further from the truth. As I've already informed you, 10-15% of Thais are incredible rich. Admittedly not to many live in Essan,Yet in Bangkok and the rest of Thailand they're living it up.

10-15% Thais "incredibly" rich?

According to this from Credit Suisse

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According to a 2015 Asia Pacific Wealth Report ¹, there are around 91,000 high-net- worth individuals in Thailand with more than USD 1 million (THB 35 million) in investable assets, owning total USD 456 billion (THB 16 trillion) of investable wealth. According to the Credit Suisse Global Wealth Report 2015, there are also an estimated 340 ultra-high-net-worth individuals with more than USD 50 million (THB 1.8 billion) in net wealth. 

You must be feeling pretty silly right now so I'll just leave you to get on with your barstool economics lecture.

31 minutes ago, Gonefortea said:

I don't need to listen to bar stool banter. I have research it's called an empty wallet three times to Western girlfriends who were common law wife's. So I'm pretty sure I know thank you.

Geezer, if your Western girlfriends were on the mortgages and made payments, then they were entitled to whatever they got.

If you put their names on the deeds even though they'd made no contribution to the ownership of the properties you lost then more fool you.

5 hours ago, greenchair said:

Look around.hundreds of Thousands of thai can afford to travel and live in other countries. 

A great deal of them can and do purchase multiple properties overseas. They also start many businesses with 100 percent ownership. Most people accept they should not be allowed to profit from buying and selling thai land. But many are married and would like to own a small piece to care for their thai families. I was running a small business from my home that I cannot own. Even though my husband had nothing to do with the business and was out of town most of the time. He was convicted for running a business and put in prison , because the house was in his name. When we apply for a home loan we cannot use any of my income as collateral for that home. It's not only the foreigner that's complaining.many thai husbands and wives are complaining also. 

Sure, hundreds of thousands  of Thais can afford to travel around and live in other countries..............in Asia

Those who can afford to travel to, live in and buy land in markets like the UK's probably number in the tens of thousands, not the hundreds of thousands.

The number of Brits (I use Britain because the population is similar in size to Thailand's) who can afford to travel to, live in and buy land in Thailand are in the millions so, once again, comparing apples and pears.

If they're  married and want to leave land to families, they can simply give their wives the money to buy the land now - problem solved.

What's the point in a foreigner being allowed to buy the land in his/her own name?

No, IMO the authorities should definitely continue to tell foreign wannabe real estate magnates to jog on

2 minutes ago, nontabury said:

 Why not admit you were wrong?

I'm not but i can't be bothered to argue

Anybody??

TRT is quite a hot topic on this sub-forum so surely someone must be able to recommend someone?

2 minutes ago, transam said:

I don't need to feel better...I understand reality which you don't seem to grasp....I do not have a problem, I just know the differences between me in LOS and a Thai in the UK....Incredibly different stuff...

I understand reality perfectly well - that's why I don't complain about not having the benefits I enjoy back home extended to me by a Thai government that has absolutely no obligation to me whatsoever.

You OTOH, for someone without a problem, you've sure made a very noticeable whine during this thread.

1 minute ago, transam said:

I am a chancer..........In LOS that is what I am.......Always known that...

Whatever you feel you need to tell yourself to feel better.

5 minutes ago, transam said:

You are talking out your ass.....My visa says.......NON IMMIGRANT.....

 

Explain why that is.........?

OK

You're a migrant then.

Just now, transam said:

You tell me....?.....Go on tell me....

You're an immigrant.

1 minute ago, transam said:

I am not an "immigrant" to Thailand.....

So what are you, then?

2 hours ago, transam said:

Ol' Trans and all of us are "individuals".........I don't give a flying f_____ about foreign spongers or those who contribute to the UK.....Trans did his stuff all his life then retired....I CANNOT have my pension upgraded because I put my feet up in LOS but LOS folk are given everything if they are in the UK......You may say small numbers but THEY are individuals the same as me, l am told to f_____ off but the LOS folk are taken care of because of my life long cash input......

What does any of that have to do with the Thai authorities giving you leave to own land?

The UK government chooses to offer benefits and access to markets to foreigners; why does that mean the Thai government has to extend the same to you?

It's already been explained why the Thai authorities don't allow farangs to own land here but you persist with the whining.

I don't think it's right that you should hijack the thread to vent your disapproval of immigrants to the UK especially when you yourself are an immigrant to Thailand.

Maybe consider for a moment that the very immigrants you slag off actually contribute to the pot that pays that pension of yours.

1 hour ago, nontabury said:

Facts  extracted from different news outlets plus opening Google.

Another one to add to your education is that 10% of the U.K's property market is in the hands of foreigners. For London that figure is much higher.

And it is in London that most Thai property buyers head. Some of the very rich Thais owning more than one London property. Many of these being members of the Thai elite,( including ex Thai prime ministers)who are very adamant that foreign national must Not be allowed to own Thai property,unless of course they personally have their finger in the pie,as in ownership of large ares of Thai farming land. The one exemption is that foreigners can purchase in their own name, a box in a condominium on Sukhumvit, as long as it does not exceed 49% of the total number.They being afraid that you might dig up the land and put it in a suitcase to be transported through  Suvarnabhumi airport.

 

You continue to miss the point but I can't be bothered to reiterate it.

36 minutes ago, transam said:

So the vast influx of foreign folk to the UK that are creaming our dosh doesn't come into your equation...?

Most of them work. You're repeating nonsense you've read in the Daily Mail

26 minutes ago, transam said:

So the UK needs the ones taken care of on benefits that manage to get permission to stay...?

Of course it doesn't but study after study has shown that immigrants provide a net benefit to the UK.

Some come to scrounge but most come to work and work they do for crap wages that indigenous Brits won't get out of bed for.

I think I may have low testosterone and would like to get it checked out.

I know from reading various threads here that not all doctors are created equal so I'm looking for recommendations for excellent endocrinologists.

I live in downtown Bangkok and I've seen a place called maximum clinic that offers TRT but I'd feel safer in the hands of a proper medical facility.

I've just hit 50 and recently kicked a 50-a-day smoking addiction.

Using a heart rate monitor, I've seen that my resting heart rate has plunged from around the 70-75 bpm level when I was smoking to between 52-58 level after quitting.

That might sound great but I'm putting on the pounds despite an unchanged diet.

I hit the gym 5 times a week without fail doing mostly resistance training and am trying to cut body fat to under 15% using a high protein diet of grilled fish, grilled chicken, egg white omelettes, smoked salmon and veggies.

27 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

What if you are on a multiple entry marriage visa, and don't trust Thailand banks enough to have 400.000 Baht in the bank?

 

An irrational fear of the local banks doesn't qualify for nannying from the Thai authorities.

6 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

Your post is a load of nonsense, and never mind your stupid technicalities, so you are saying that myself and thousands of other expats made a stupid life

decision by buying our houses in our wifes or girlfriends names. Yes, you do have to take some chances in life, but that does not excuse the behaviour of the

Thai government in this situation.

Yes that's exactly what I'm saying.

You entered into that arrangement with your partner on a wing and a prayer which seems a foolish premise upon which to base a financial decision

The Thai government played no part in that arrangement, did it?

Why should they effectively insure you against the potential consequences of your own foolishness?

30 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

"We all knew the rules & regs before we settled here", perhaps, but did the immigration rules not change drastically over the last ten years?

I personally know one chap who lived here on tourist visas and bought a house for himself and his girlfriend, in her name of course, he did not want to get married, he is now living in a neighbouring country having lost his house. Like thousands of others at that time, he had no idea that he would no longer be allowed to live on tourist visas.

 

I am not saying that people should be allowed to live permanently here on tourist visas, but this chap should not have been forced to lose his house, there should have been other options open to him, and I don't want to hear rubbish like if he cannot afford to have 800.000 Baht in his bank, he should not have been here in the first place.

He made a stupid life decision and bought a house in his girlfriend's name. Technically, it wasn't his house so he didn't lose it.

The authorities can't be expected to protect fools from themselves........ especially foreign fools.

He took a punt on the Thai authorities continuing to turn a blind eye to people living here on B2B tourist visas.

He lost that punt

42 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

If the Thai government were fair, they could allow you to own one small average family house on a small plot of land, not buying up large mansions and acres of land.

The Thai government are only interested in our money, nothing else.

Why should the Thai authorities indulge certain farangs' obsession with owning land/property?

A lot of Thais are already priced out of their own real estate market.

Why push prices further out of their reach by adding farang money into the mix?

If it's such a bug, there are plenty of other countries where foreign ownership of land is allowed

49 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

"Do you get the same treatment here"? 

Of course not, unlike a lot of Thaivisa posters, I do not think we get a fair deal from immigration, ie what happens if you reach your eighties and nineties and are not well enough or fit enough to do border hops? So if you are a member of the "if you don't like it go home brigade" your comments are not welcome as Thailand is still a better country in many ways than the UK.

 

If you reach your 80s or 90s and are here on a retirement visa or extension, why would you be doing border hops?

2 hours ago, nontabury said:

 One of the nationalities that buys most houses in London,are the Thais,

  What many farangs fail to notice is that approximately 10-15 % of Thais are very,very rich,far more so than the majority of farangs.

That's just a "fact" you invented while sat on the toilet.

Thais are not among the largest group of foreign buyers of UK property.

The point being made - clearly it's lost on some people - is that there are a lot more Brits who can afford to buy land/property in Thailand than there are Thais who can afford to buy land/property in the UK and Brits don't have to be "rich" to do so.

2 hours ago, jgold said:

That's the same question I have for my government. I am not from a developed country, not US or EU. We are considered third world and still we offer Thais opportunities that are not offered to us here. 

Just because a few Thais can afford is not an excuse, they have a right and Thais don't offer the same rights to us.

I tell you if every british, US and Australian expat jam their embassy email and phone lines they would put pressure to loosen some policies here. 

And then you'd wake up

1 hour ago, jgold said:

Thai people come to your country and we let them buy land, own a business, right to work if they marry and citizenship after 4 yrs.

Comparing apples and pears

How many Thais could get a visa to the UK without a sponsor or even afford the plane ticket?

How many do you think could afford to buy property in the UK?

OTOH, a lot of Brits can afford visas, flights and the cost of land here (if they were allowed to own it).

The Thais are right to restrict foreign ownership of land otherwise we'd have farang proles owning chunks of Thailand because it's very affordable when measured against Western currencies.

I find that it's most often people who were priced out of the property booms in their own countries that complain most vociferously about restrictive land ownership laws in Thailand

Thailand does not owe you a second bite at the real estate cherry because you missed the boat at home.

Why should they give farangs an advantage over their own people?