Vallon66

Kill it.

If it had bitten my child

your intial question would've been ''Where do I bury my dead dog ?''

What's the long term visa situation like there?

Difficult if you're not married to a Vietnamese?? Right??

That's right. Vietnam does not have any type of retirement visa.So you will be a number of visa runs. Until Vietnam immigration get annoyed by it.

I am amazed at the change in Thai Immigration. Western tourists, who spend money and respect Thai culture, customs, religion and people are now being discouraged to come here or stay here, .. but the red carpet has been rolled out to Russians and chinese, both of which show no respect for anything Thai and do not even like Thai people, ... plus they frequent their own restaurants, hotels and tour companies, ...so little real benefit goes to the Thai people or economy!

Wake up Thailand! Devalue the baht and make Westerners feel welcome again! Your exports will do better and your revenue from tourism will soar once more

Honest post, Completely aaccurate.

I am amazed at the change in Thai Immigration. Western tourists, who spend money and respect Thai culture, customs, religion and people are now being discouraged to come here or stay here, .. but the red carpet has been rolled out to Russians and chinese, both of which show no respect for anything Thai and do not even like Thai people, ... plus they frequent their own restaurants, hotels and tour companies, ...so little real benefit goes to the Thai people or economy!

Wake up Thailand! Devalue the baht and make Westerners feel welcome again! Your exports will do better and your revenue from tourism will soar once m

you guys cut the crap and respect local customs. You cannot impose your own values even if in your eyes some things seem strange or absurd. Every culture have their customs , values and superstitions. I once taught Eskimos in Northern Canada. We often bought snacks for our students. I could never get over some simple custom. If snack was bought today and there were some left over; they would not touch it the next day. They think it is stale and not good. The same candy or cookie will be sitting on the grocery shelves for weeks and they would still buy it .. But try buying today , eat some and leave for tomorrow , They won't touch it. But this is a custom and it needs to be respected, even if it seems strange.

So what you're saying is that a person rubbing thier azz all over food before serving it is against Thai custom? If so then I agree but

I'd think that would be pretty much a universal thing.

The fact that you constantly use the word ''wifey'' is annoying and stupid in on it self. Then you wonder why people don't want to eat your food because you rub your a$$ all over it.?? You don't seem to be the sharpest knife in the drawer.

ACHTUNG ! Papers! Ve Vant to see PAPERS!!!

Great for tourism.

Turn of events: Today I went to the house and started loading concrete, wood, doors, and all of out personal belongings into the truck.

Arguments insured with wife and her father and a different sister who lives behind the house and who also has done nothing to show bad and even likes our plan to remodel the family house.

By the time I had loaded my truck beyond capacity, father had a change of heart/thinking. Now I an told that I can do what I planned with the house minus the one room the eldest sister lives in. A 3x3 meter room.

I told the wife to explain that her room is still open to the dust and webs is still open to everything else. So they agreed to let me seal her room since this sister is a pig that is lazy to clean.

To me this seems like I was being tested by the father and everyone to see if I would bend to their wishes. If so, then, I have won.

Or, could it be that they have seen that I was serious to take my wife and kids far away from them forever because of their stubbornness?

Either way! They have succumbed to my plan. What problems lie for me in the future can only be imagined now.

I think my next move is to get that eldest sister to really hate being in my home so she will do anything to leave on her own. Maybe then I can find happiness with my wife and 2 babies.

So you gave in ..so much for all your previous bragging.on how you were going to leave and take every last brick...LOL.you went from ''joe cool to joe cave in'' pretty easily.. now you get what you deserve.They own you and they know it. Just hope you have at least a little pride not to come back to this forum whining again when it all goes to hell.

Turn of events: Today I went to the house and started loading concrete, wood, doors, and all of out personal belongings into the truck.

Arguments insured with wife and her father and a different sister who lives behind the house and who also has done nothing to show bad and even likes our plan to remodel the family house.

By the time I had loaded my truck beyond capacity, father had a change of heart/thinking. Now I an told that I can do what I planned with the house minus the one room the eldest sister lives in. A 3x3 meter room.

I told the wife to explain that her room is still open to the dust and webs is still open to everything else. So they agreed to let me seal her room since this sister is a pig that is lazy to clean.

To me this seems like I was being tested by the father and everyone to see if I would bend to their wishes. If so, then, I have won.

Or, could it be that they have seen that I was serious to take my wife and kids far away from them forever because of their stubbornness?

Either way! They have succumbed to my plan. What problems lie for me in the future can only be imagined now.

I think my next move is to get that eldest sister to really hate being in my home so she will do anything to leave on her own. Maybe then I can find happiness with my wife and 2 babies.

You won...this time.

But you won what exactly? The right to spend your money fixing up the parents house that has a loan against it, for ungrateful parents and a pig of sister and her lazy husband. Good win.

You should have driven that loaded truck out the front gate and made them beg you to come back. Made the sister clear the lien before you spend one more baht on that house or the bank may own a nice house. You gave in far too quickly. You were in a position to dictate terms and you blew it.

I could not imagine waking up each morning wondering what stress I had to face that day. I feel for you because I know how horrible a situation like this must be. You sound like a good guy just trying to do the right thing. But you live in a nest of vipers and I just don't think anything good is going to come of this,

Wish you luck...but it's not to late to change your mind and roll on out.

Well said.. he caved in now I hope he gets what he deserved.Weak and spineless..And they know it.

Thai in-laws -1(WON)

Disabled idiot ATM machine farang slave-0

I would like to thank all for their replies.

It has helped me to decide to pack my stuff and get the heck out of there.

I just hope i can get money back from all the tile and blocks and bathroom furnishings that have been purchased to cut some of my losses.

I know already in doing this all that I will be the bad foreigner now to her family. My wife is insistent that I allow the construction work on one addition to be completed but I am refusing to do even this now. I figure if the family had shown me some kind of decency then they deserve as much in return buy since they have chosen to change and are refusing to make space for me that I am no longer obligated to complete any work started. Perhaps I am doing it simply because I am angry at the losses this has incurred and the Thainess that has led to this action. Today I go get everything from that house that we bought and own. Everything down to the last brick that has not been laid.

No you wont you'll cave in.

First before anything .Imagine you're on vacation or just having a pleasant day .Walking down the street with your friend(s), wife, girlfriend ,son ,daughter,or just by yourself.Minding your own business . Doing nothing wrong . Then two cops come along and stop you. Refuse to give a reason as to why , Just start harassing you. Demanding I.D. Interrogating you, attempting to demean or intimidate you ,reaching into your pockets,,or ...whatever...

From what I've read here most of you condone it.! Which is pretty gutless.

These cops had no reason to detain him. If they REALLY had a legitimate reason they would not have backed down and become so complacent. English or no English.

Alot of posters here are also whining because the guy said he was from the United States..He did not ''announce'' it as some of you claim. He said it ONCE, and in fact that was only when ''mumbles the cop'' asked him directly ''where you from''?. He didn't repeat it .AND he didn't say it any louder or clearer than the way he had been speaking all along.

Others are complaining that he didn't give the poor cops a chance to speak..Are you kidding me??!! LOL! THEY came at him! With thier own agenda ,..... . And when he wanted to know what that agenda was, they shut down..fast. Seemed like all thier self righteousness turned into a,''uh-oh we screwed up this time'',, situation.

Again,If they actually had a real legitimate motive ,they would have stood thier ground and took control of the situation.Instead of becoming crumbling ,stumblimng, mumbling children.And by the way,, enough already with this ''lose face ''garbage.That 's always the go to excuse.Nonsense.

The fact is that alot of posters here are just boot lickers and cowards who don't have to the courage to do what this guy did. Who by the way are the SAME hypocrites that complain COSTANTLY ,HERE ,ON THIS FORUM ,week after week about being harassed and shaken down by cops all over Thailand for ''tea money''. Which THEY admit giving into willingly . LOL

Regardless of what country.Being stopped for no reason and interrogated without so much as a clear reason as to why is B.S. That's police state nazi third reich . But according to the brits , aussies, frenchies, etc. WHO cry constantly here on this forum and to anyone who will listen to thier sob story about how terrible the police are in the LOS and Americans being so mean and arrogant ..boo hoo ...Let me tell you something .This guy may or not be a jerk, and personally I don't care where he's from nor it should it make a difference ,but what he did here said alot more about his character and his actions than all you ''tough guys'' there sitting behind your computers crying about bib injustice week after week and about the ''tea money'' you're laying out. Then later self deluding yourselves by saying well it's ''Thai culture'' ,trying to make yourselves feel better and justify your own cowardice.. Most of you are hypocrites that are insulting him because you yourselves don't have the guts to stand up to being unnecessarily harassed and/or shaken down.(That coupled with the fact you have an intense hatred and jealousy toward Americans.) Which in on itself is racist ,demented and twisted.

THAT guy just did you all of us favor.Yeah it could've went bad for him. But he took the chance and let , at least these two cops know, that foreighners and tourists are fed up with harassment, shakedowns and corruption.

So Next time that YOU are just going along YOUR way minding your own business and a couple of Thai cops pass you, look ,then think twice and do nothing, it just might be becuse of this video .

@elgordo38...

''The Impossible Dream''....

Sinatra

Elvis

Cher

Tom Jones

Andy Williams

Ed Ames

Connie Francis

Johnny Mathis

Shirley Bassey

Glen Campbell

The Lettermen

The Vogues

The Termptations...

Just to name a few.

A Thai learning Russian:

Sawadeekaski

Aroyski

Jaideeski

A Russian speaking Thai:

Nyet, krap

Hey you! krap

TAT, give it up. Their currency will get lower, miracle of miracles Thai baht will go higher, and WW3 is approaching.

Reminds me of a song "Dream the Impossible Dream" Wish I could remember the name of the singer. Getting old sucks.

Well, it doesn't seem so strange to me. My wife expects me to support the family. It is a more traditional society. Actually, even in the US, you don't have to go back that far to hear similar things said in a more euphemistic way. People of my parents' generation (baby boomers, so born in the decade after WWII) will often say things like "I stayed with your dad because he was a good provider." Believe me, I have heard that a ton from people of that era.

So, here in Thailand, the women are looking for "good providers." Now, they may misunderstand how much money you have or you may run into a truly horrible human being who really does want to milk you for all you're worth....the later is certainly a reality. But I know plenty of people here, myself included, who have wives who expect to be provided for but who will step up and help out as they can.

Find one of those. Maybe not so easy, but they are around.

EDIT--Here you go....this is from just a few years ago...maybe you are familiar with the series.

"I stayed with your dad because he was a good provider.Believe me, I have heard that a ton from people of that era''

Moronic statement.

THAT would be a mother talking to her child about HER husband .About THIER father. With regards on how HE took care of his OWN wife and children.

Traditional American men took care of their own family like thier fathers and grandfathers before them

AND did NOT have to care for thier American wives families because thier fathers were doing the same.

(Altho by what you wrote , maybe yours couldn't manage that

You think it isn't ''strange'' that you have to provide for not only your thai wife and your children but also

her;

Parents

sisters

brothers

nephews

nieces

cousins

grandparents,

sick buffalo

neighbors

and anyone else that comes along with thier hand out? lol

I would call someone who thinks that way self delusional.

But as P.T Barnum said.. there's one born every minute.

The American man who had a daughter that was married did not take handouts from his son in law. If he had an ounce of pride he didn't .I would say the same for the British as well. In fact most if not all of western culture.

Don't twist reality or rewrite American tradition to try and make your self feel better about being a sucker and a walking ATM .

Here's an idea! play that video for the father of your thai wife. See how that works out for you.

I've looked into this clinic and altho I've read very good reviews, and the website and photos look professional. Tere's two things rthat bugs me about this doctor. First they want a 500$ deposit.. sight unseen. That's to be sent before any consultation. So in other words you send them 500$.. and you find that you need to cancel the appt..

Have you ever tried to get money back from a Thai? lol.

OR let's say you change your mind after you have the consultation.. are they going to refund your money?...good luck.

You can email them for the answers .. but you wont get any because they NEVER RESPOND!.

Interesting I actually saw the doctor, there was no 500 $ consultation, it was free

they answered all my emails sent as well

Still considering the procedure but have not committed

Hi Guys , I personally know three guys who went there last August . Excellent first class place . Dr pong even allowed me too watch one of them operated on . I chickened out after 10 mins . All have good results and happy . $500 is too book surgery appointment . Consulting is free in person or email . He sees you in person a few days before surgical appointment for personal consultation . I was ready to go myself , but unfortunately had health issues day of surgery . My deposit was refunded .

OK thanks, good info. I knew there was a 500$ fee for something .But it's refreshing to know that they are professional.I've heard alot of good things about this doctor and the clinic. The emails that I sent was directly from their website.. I think if you copy their email add. and send from your own personal email,,they 'd get it.

Personally, I find the 'head in the sand' brigade more annoying than the whiners. There is nothing wrong in seeing a place for what it is, to walk around with blinkers on makes people appear none too clever and somewhat in denial. The author of the article sounds like a bitter person himself, and etiquette is a word usually associated with politeness, so completely misused in the context that he chose for it.

The most miserable expats here are the ones who seem to have no interests. The happiest have at least 3 interests, perhaps 1 sporting and 2 intellectual. And often a full time job on top of that. Too much time on your hands is a big problem. Highest points on the misery index always go to the alcoholics and the old sex-pats. Those two groups just seem to be caught in a nightmare cycle of despair.

What a load of rubbish. Im retired at 47 have loads of time of my hands and love life and the people and the family around me. I have my 8 dogs and studio and drum room as interests and met my thai wife in the UK so can hardly be described as a sexpat as you put it. I have a standard of living I could only dream of back in the UK. If anyone is bitter it sounds like yourself. I dont need the money to work so choose to live me life as I wish. Now I know your comments were not directed at me but your generalisation is way off the mark. I know of many expats like me who love it here. Im not in denial nor do I walk around with blinkers on. Is it perfect? No such thing as perfect but compared to living in the UK? No contest. Thailand wins hands down.

8 dogs? and a ''drum'' studio? your neighbors must love you and all your consideration.

I've looked into this clinic and altho I've read very good reviews, and the website and photos look professional. Tere's two things rthat bugs me about this doctor. First they want a 500$ deposit.. sight unseen. That's to be sent before any consultation. So in other words you send them 500$.. and you find that you need to cancel the appt..

Have you ever tried to get money back from a Thai? lol.

OR let's say you change your mind after you have the consultation.. are they going to refund your money?...good luck.

You can email them for the answers .. but you wont get any because they NEVER RESPOND!.

Interesting I actually saw the doctor, there was no 500 $ consultation, it was free

they answered all my emails sent as well

Still considering the procedure but have not committed

On thier website they wanted a 500$ deposit. Claiming that, and this is what THEY said , a retainer, or some such nonsense was required. If you walk in off the street , I guess no charge..I'm just telling you what I read on thier website.

Emails... no

.Look I was just trying to help sorry I bothered.

whatever,,, I could really care less..

I've looked into this clinic and altho I've read very good reviews, and the website and photos look professional. Tere's two things rthat bugs me about this doctor. First they want a 500$ deposit.. sight unseen. That's to be sent before any consultation. So in other words you send them 500$.. and you find that you need to cancel the appt..

Have you ever tried to get money back from a Thai? lol.

OR let's say you change your mind after you have the consultation.. are they going to refund your money?...good luck.

You can email them for the answers .. but you wont get any because they NEVER RESPOND!.

The heck with the villagers.. you killed a dog man.. Tim sharkey is on his way and wants to have a word with you.

The OP handled it perfectly. Did'nt lose his temper and refused to let them get away with it.. And for those who say 7$ is peanuts ..everyone at once reach in your wallet and fish out 7 bucks.. Send it to me .. just peanuts right.

Been in Cambodia for a year. When I rrived was at SR Airport. The rudest immigration that I 've dealt with since Ecuador. No Cambodians are not warm wonderful people . They smile for money.

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An update. She is not allowed back in to my parents house as their are really upset that she did even say goodbye to them. The front door locks have been changed today because did not give the front door key back.

I did send her a message this morning on Line to meet up for lunch, she read the message and has not replied. I have had enough of her now with this behavior and may consider informing the Home Office about her current situation as she is legally not allowed to stay in the UK any longer.

All she has to do to secure her stay in the UK is to mention the words "abuse and threats" evidenced by changed door locks!

Much free legal advise is available to to abused and mistreated women who are locked out of their homes.

Bet she will have fun taking you to the cleaners !

It's not her home, it's my parents house. She has moved all of her things out of the house and she has not given a forwarding address. She can take me to the cleaners if she wishes, but she will receive nothing as I have nothing som nam na

Wow! What a mature answer esp. for a twelve year old. Espesially the sticking your tongue out caption.

Really just validares your childish and infantile personality . And mate braggging about being destitute is nothing to be proud of. But if you're feeling down I'm sure your mom will make you a nice glass of hot cocoa.Run along now.

Tough situation .Yes.

Biggest problem mate. YOUR MOTHER.

You are married to your wife, time for your mother but out ,shut up.

How many maraiges have been f....d up, because of interfering mothers? i will tell you too many!!

Don't forget. it is his mother's house so telling her to shut up does seem a bit rash!!

Well he sholud'nt have dragged her there TO BEGIN WITH.!!!!

After reading on and on, you seem to get more bitter and act like a spoiled Mama's Boy. Which it appears from reading all this crap you are a Mama's Boy, and a Dreamer, not a man that stands up for his wife, and sits at mum's house on the computer all day thinking your going to strick it rich. I don't blame your wife at all, i would have walked out on your arse long ago..

As they say, "MAN UP",,, if you love her, which appears from your writings you don't, get any job you can find,, swallow your pride, if you have any, and show her your trying.

bigguy EXACTLY RIGHT! I could'nt agree more.. His whining is annoying, even more so than his excuses. She did what any woman would do,.

Tough situation .Yes.

Biggest problem mate. YOUR MOTHER.

You are married to your wife, time for your mother but out ,shut up.

How many maraiges have been f....d up, because of interfering mothers?

I agree but if he had been a man to begin with , the mother would'nt have been an issue if he had been self reliant , mature, would've had some self respect and had his OWN HOME to take his wife to.Instead being a loser.