Dewey

25 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

We are all trolling on this Bright MONDAY morning, give the guy a break he doesn't even know what day it is...... 

Once again, look at the original date of the post. A bit early to start drinking bro..

28 minutes ago, brianthainess said:

It's Friday morning 

True. But look at the date of my original post... 

17 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:

+1 on the accounts

It is your legal right to be able to view the Accounts on a Monthly basis, 

These Accounts are legally to be posted in a prominent position where they are able to be viewed without any kind of restrictions.

200K in debt ?

I dont know how you became aware of this , but the residents to start asking some serious questions of the Management Committee, and the Accounts would be a good place to start

Yeah I don't think they share the accounts. I will have a look if they do.

we became aware about this because they use this problem as a way to raise the fee last year.

Thanks for the reply.

2 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

 

Is there a general law in Thailand about rules in condos ?

As others have said, there is a condo act that covers everything to do with condo admin. However, there are usually specific bylaws for each condo block , things like no pets, noise etc.

 

Can they add new rules without the approval of the majority of owner ?

These laws are set when the condo block is established and filed at the land office, and can only be added to or amended via a vote at annual meeting etc.

 

Can they fine condo resident ? On which authority ? What can happened if an owner refuse to pay a fine ?

On authority of the condo act, where its is all layed out in great detail, including penalties for non payment.

 

Can we request to have the total spending per month for maintenance, external contractor and other type of spending ?

As stated in the condo act, a monthly statement must be available and posted for view, covering the money in out each month (usually posted on a notice board outside the office). And the fully audited accounts must be available at the AGM, (its usually one of the first items on the meeting agenda)

 

If you are looking at getting rid of the current management company, the first thing is to look at their contract. These mafia like management companies usually have a very complex contract ensuring its almost impossible to sack them, and although they are not supposed to, they control meetings, proxy votes etc and then vote not to sack themselves.

 

Thai condo act in English

 

https://www.samuiforsale.com/law-texts/new-thailand-condominium-act-2008.html

Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a lot.

13 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

What are you being charged for yearly maintenance per square metre and what was it increased from? 

 

Where are you located? 

 

Why have they no money? 

 

Annual fee was changed from 32THB per sqm to 45THB, they justify the raise because it never went up since condo exists (2009)

Location is sukhumvit50. Why no money, tbh I'm not so sure, they talked about it at last year co-owner meeting but I did not understand all of it.

1 minute ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Why did you replace the Juristic management company? 

 

Tbh I don't know. The whole team changed 3 times in 6 years, I don't think the management company change, only the staff and manager.

Good afternoon,

quick post to ask about condo management (or juristic office). I've been living in the same condo for the last 12 years and I'm an owner since 6 years.

Today, other owners (Thai) reach out to me because they are sick of the condo management and they are gathering all the complains they can find.

They know I had a few problems with the management in the past and they want me to join their crusade (probably because I was the only one asking questions management didn't want to hear at the last year co-owner meeting).

Anyway, I'm thrilled about this and for once it's started from Thai owners so I will not be the bad "farang" who complain about everything 🙂

However, before joining them I have a few questions about condo management and hopefully someone here will have a few answers :

- Since the new management took over the condo, new rules appears and if we don't respect those new rules we can get a fine (from 1000 to 5000 THB)

1. Is there a general law in Thailand about rules in condos ?
2. Can they add new rules without the approval of the majority of owner ?
3. Can they fine condo resident ? On which authority ? What can happened if an owner refuse to pay a fine ?

- Last year they raised the annual fee for owner (which we vote yes for) because they didn't have enough cash to pay the staff and condo upkeep), they also had a debt of 200K THB.

1. They complained about not having enough money to pay the staff but they still let them do overtime on weekends, during next co-owner meeting can we ask to see the cost of management (salaries, overtime paid etc.) ?
2. Can we request to have the total spending per month for maintenance, external contractor and other type of spending ?

Thanks for the help.

On 3/17/2024 at 8:52 PM, 33 RPM said:

Thanks all, i am waiting for a sensible reply from BMW, ive read the fuel cap and asked 3 independent BMW dealers

all with differing replies.

hope to have clarity early next week

are there any BMW owners, reading this,

220, 330 series owners ?

what grade of petrol  do you use.?

 

I have 330e, I use 95 or higher if I can find.

1 hour ago, rabas said:

 

My condo is in talks with a company to install 5 charging stations in our outdoor parking area, which has some spare capacity. The condo will provide the electricity which we buy at a significant discount. The profit will be be shared between the charging company and the Condo, which will get the lion's share. 

 

So the condo association makes money, and, owners get on premises charging. The charging company will use internet marketing to advertise out location to maximize profit.

 

Could you please share the name of the company ? Thanks.

13 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

That will never happen.

It might not but I was thinking the same about weed, they prove me wrong.

14 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

It is NOT a condo problem that you can't charge your car, like they don't have to have petrol stations on their premises too.

You can't compare filling a car with petrol (5mn) with charging a car (multiple hours). I agree with you that it may not be a condo problem at the moment but it may be in the future if the government update the law.

5 minutes ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

So you stole electricity off them to get a reaction? Not a smart move.

 

Why not charge your car at recharging stations like ICE vehicles do? There aren't enough charging points or its not convenient? Oh well, buy an ICE instead and get off your high horse.

If you read the entire topic you would have notice that I told the condo manager that I will refund the 120THB electricity I used (I have the exact amount I used on the app).

The only point of doing that was to get a reaction from the condo management that did nothing from last year co-owner meeting where multiple owners asked for charging option in our parking.

And I got what I wanted, 2 companies will come audit the condo next week and suggest/propose solutions so maybe a smarter move than you think.

And again, if there is no possibility to put chargers in our condo, so be it, but at least the management considered it. I will keep charging at work or at the nearest Tesco. 

18 minutes ago, quake said:

 

Look at you

Please show where i said  EV charging was dangerous.

( but it can be )

I did say you were a dangerous and an entitled person.

You again fail to understand, condos have rules and regulations.

they are in place to stop idiots from doing idiotic things.

( Not saying you are) but you plugged in a type of device where you should have not. ( entitled EV owner)

Now Thailand has many different nationalities come in to condos.

and some of these people come from places that the electric is 110v

and they forget that, and plug devices in and they catch fire.

This is why we have rules and regulations.

I was involved in a fire offshore where this happened, we got it out before it did any real damage. was about 10 years ago and most power supplies are universal now, but not all appliances.

do you see any wrong in what you did now ?

bet not.

Good day.

Safety first. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Alright, let say EV is not dangerous, only me then.

But I'm still interested to know how dangerous I am when plugging a charger on compatible outlet.

Please come to my condo, inspect the charger and the outlet and then prove to me how dangerous it was.

I'll be happy to offer you the coffee.

18 minutes ago, quake said:

 

Well a shopping center, mall, have people in attendance all the time.

that's a bit different from plugging in and going to bed.

just not the same.

End result could be the same. 

 

I would agree with you if you had number to back up your theory. You state that EV charging is dangerous, prove it to us.

Where are your numbers ? Statistics, articles, anything ? How many burned EV car in Thailand in 2023 ? How many interventions from firefighters regarding fires in condo because of EV charging station ?

Once again I'm not pro EV, I'm just asking some question here. You seem to have no trust in EV charger but how did you come to that conclusion ? I'm not trolling you, I just want to know how did you come to that conclusion.

I don't believe in god but do you see my in the "god" topic on the forum telling everyone one who believe that they are wrong ?

11 minutes ago, eisfeld said:

 

He does not need a charging point. He would like one for the convenience of charging while parked. He is ready to carry the costs. If they wont install a charging point then I doubt it'll be a big issue for him. He'll just refuel at a pump or charge somewhere else.

 

But people here make it sound like it was a mistake to buy that hybrid and he should have checked regarding chargin in the condo before buying the car. It doesn't matter. It's a question of convenience.

Thank you for that.

13 minutes ago, quake said:

 

Never said I was an expert.

And stop defecting things talking about solar power and your job. yawn.

 

But I know what condo management get up to most of the time.

( sorry I forgot it will all be free in the long run ) 

 

Now let just point out something to you.

You plugged your car in to a socket in the parking area of your condo.

Now you had no idea what the rating of the wiring was from that socket.

or the state of it. but you just plugged it in and went off to bed.

What a dangerous entitled person you were to do that. 

 

Now you must live in a very very nice condo.

Because if you had done that in my building.

it would have been unplugged with in a few minutes, by security.

if you had done it a second time ( as you did )

your car would have been jacked up on 4 dollies and remove from that area and left up on the dollies ( locked) until you went to the office to explain what you were doing. ( possible fine)

Entitled EV owners shinning so bright.

 

I live in a crap building unlike you. 

 

 

Well done for your care and due diligence when selecting a vehicle.

and accommodation. top marks -100

 

But get ready for an annul fee increase,.

you will understand that when it comes,  and it will, that's if they do entertain EV charging in your condo. very unlikely at present

Good luck.

 

 

Solar panel example was just to make a point, you chose to ignore it.

Please enlighten me regarding annual increase fee, you seem to know how condo are managed so please share you knowledge.

Now you had no idea what the rating of the wiring was from that socket.

or the state of it. but you just plugged it in and went off to bed.

What a dangerous entitled person you were to do that. 

I didn't know I was such a dangerous person, using a charger that is made to be used on standard Thai electrical outlet. Please give a lecture on how it could catch fire I'm very interested.

On a less sarcastic note, I knew perfectly that I was using common area electricity and record exactly how much KW I used so I can pay back the condo for the 2 charges I did.

23 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I own a condominium and I am happy that there are no EV charging stations in our building. 

That will help to prevent fires in the building.

I also suggested to the committee that nobody should be allowed to take any small EVs like scooters up to the residential area. The risk of fire is just too high.

 

 

 

 

 

Totally agree on all that Chinese low quality equipment (kid scooters, hoverboard and other toys).

However, regarding the car industry, is there any statistics about EV car burning in Thailand ?

1 minute ago, quake said:

 

You don't get it.

Nothing is free in Thailand. 

Even if your dumb enough to believe that, I did try to explain what will happen in a condo building with regards to free installation.

but that's above your head.

 

Global warming, cheap shot, you child.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You started it buddy. Anyway, once again you are wrong.

Nothing is free in Thailand, if you are talking about companionship, you are probably right 🙂

However, let's take solar panels example, the company I worked for just signed a contract to install solar panel on our 9000SQM roof.

Cost of the installation: 0THB

Cost of the maintenance and replacement of deflective panels: 0THB

How do they money ? Well they sell us the KW that they produce with the panels at a cheaper rate than the country grid and they still make money, we save money, everybody win.

Don't you think they do the same with chargers ? They install for free and then they invoice you according to what you consume (obviously more expensive than if it was on your common electrical outlet but it's totally normal, nobody works for free).

So since you are an expert, please explain me in deep detail how doing a partnership with a EV charging company would be bad for the condo ?

6 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

I expect the government to legislate at some point.

Yeah, that was this information I was really looking for here. Anybody knows if the government plan a law regarding EV ?

Because, if it goes as fast as weed legislation, it can come very quick.