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Epilogue

 

So I went in to the station this morning, an officer drove me to the court to drop off some papers and then to immigration. No cuffs, I sat in the passenger seat, and the officer was really nice. I only got out of the truck at immigration where I waited 10 minutes to get my passport back. There were no other fees to be paid. 

 

Talking to what I believe was a police chief before my trip to immigration this morning. He said normally they take many breath tests and make an average of all the tests to determine the BAL. The arresting officers submitted my intoxication report with one breath test, 50, the legal minimum, when they made me do the breath test 5 times. You can draw your own conclusion. 

 

It's seems you would get in less trouble if you would break a not so serious law, are polite about it and apologize profusely than be argumentative after committing no real offense.

1 hour ago, PoodThaiMaiDai said:

You have been honest except the title of the thread.

 

If you told the entire story on first post you probably would not have been taking a bashing here.

 

You made two mistakes.

 

Not wearing a mask on the motorbike.

 

And then instead of acting like a duck and let the cops questions roll off your back like water, you were offended and became agitated.

 

The cops lost face when you became agitated and began to disrespect them.

 

They tested you over and over on the breathalyzer because anyone in their right mind would not do what you did and they thought you must be drunk.

 

After that, I am sure their were trumped up charges and that is unfortunate.  However it is Thailand and all of us visitors (on holiday or as an expat) must learn to live in their system.  

 

3,500 Baht for. a life lesson is really not that bad.  

I made the first post at the police station minutes before they jumped me.

2 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

What was the breathalyzer reading ?

They said one reading was 50, legal minimum for dui I've been told. They never showed me the results on the breathalyzer. Just some printed out document with the police paperwork. Honestly I've never used a breathalyzer before or been arrested 

6 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

So are you out on bail? Still in remand?

 

Were you really arrested?

 

 

 

 

 

 

The full story was posted in a previous post. Receipt from Thai Court for those clamoring troll.

12 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Where have you been living for the last couple of years, in a cave. 

 

You're in Thailand now, we have laws in place to protect the population. 

 

You need to comply. 

Are tourists supposed to study everchanging laws that make no sense, like wearing a mask on a motorbike? If the police really cared and wanted to protect the population, they would go out in the day when people are around in public places and instruct people to wear masks with a warning, not interrogate people at length who are putting nobody at risk. Shouldn't the police themselves wear masks when inside a building?

30 minutes ago, robblok said:

Why did you not have a mask on you ? I mean when im on my bike i take a mask with me as in BKK you need one. In Phuket too. So a bit self inflicted. Plus even if they start to become annoying its still stupid to get aggressive like that. Thais hate curses.

I didn't want to carry one around and I was in a place where nobody was wearing them. I don't live here. It would never have crossed my mind that such a thing would be strictly enforced if at all, especially since transmission while riding seems highly unlikely.

6 minutes ago, rwill said:

Maybe telling them you were not aware that you had to wear a mask on a motorbike, were sorry, and would wear one from now on would have worked better than telling them to F off.

I did take that approach, but the fourth time he told me to put on my mask and I told him I didn't have one on me, only in my hotel where I was going to, I started to get seriously perturbed. It was like he was asking the same handful of questions on repeat.

On 1/9/2022 at 8:30 PM, Oblomov said:

Terrified of a wiry flu type virus with 99% recovery rate (We can all hope in vain for a similarly high recovery rate in so many of the other more serious medical conditions that will undoubtedly carry most of us off) yet unconcerned by poverty in the demographics that don't matter to the wealthy in power. Unconcerned by the young missing education and the hard working being ruined.

 

As you say, sad and insane.

 

 

99.8% recovery rate globally as of the latest 7-day average data.

We know for a fact that the contamination occurred after we delivered it to the PCL at their container loading station. I personally delivered it to the container loading station near Bangkok. I was personally there to pick it up from the Customs warehouse in LA.

 

We know for a fact that US Customs did not fumigate the container. The PCL also claimed to not fumigate it.  

 

We requested an insurance quotation from the PCL just prior to shipment. They never gave us one and the invoice we received after it already shipped didn't include insurance. The PCL claims shipping insurance wouldn't cover this type of incident.

Can a foreign-owned business get a fair shot in a lawsuit against a Thai PCL? 

 

It's a shipping issue. We personally deliver LCL freight to Thai PCL employees at the container freight station. The container is closed the next day. The container is opened 2 months later at a US Customs warehouse and the goods are tainted by some type of chemical fumes. Seems like a home run to us, but for some reason the Thai PCL doesn't respond to a demand letter.  

 

Is the court system fair? Is who owns a large interest in the PCL a key factor? 

20 hours ago, texanaust said:

I applied about 6 days ago and no response.  When I put in my application number it just says 'reviewing,' but I think I'll need to reapply.  Has anyone been successful with a sandbox application where you have been able to pay online (like Agoda) and not to the hotel directly?

My booking was on Agoda. There should be no problem there. Just send a screenshot or picture of booking confirmation with your application.

On 1/7/2022 at 12:36 PM, SFSFSF said:

I saw a suggestion that you may be able to quickly get a Thailand pass issued if you apply for the alternative quarantine option using a different email address.  It's risky, but the idea is when you arrive in Phuket you try to sort it out with the staff there.  I would recommend bringing printed documentation showing when you applied for the sandbox.  Also when you arrive in Phuket check to see if somehow your sandbox pass was issued while you were traveling. You can see more AQ information on the thailand pass website at the step where you choose sandbox or alternative quarantine.  They still show the Test and Go with a disabled button.

So my application was rejected on a Sunday, Monday would have been the 7th work day since I registered. I failed to attach the 2 PCR test bookings. With my flight on the 12th, I was kind of panicking to re-register. So I just re-registered and 1 minute later I got the confirmation email for my application, I received an approval email with QR code. 

 

On Saturday, I emailed the MFA Covid-19 task force about my application since my flight was a few days away, they sent the following reply. I sent an email to all three of the email addresses. I got no reply, but my application was rejected on a Sunday. So, methinks maybe someone rejected it in response to my email. As a last result, you could contact someone in Phuket...

 

20 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Just saw the numbers posted on the news,  There is quite a jump upwards, ut then this is just from PCR tests and without the ATK tests added in.  I think that with testing at home being available many of the positive ATK test results may never be reported unles the person truly needs assistance and goes to a hospital where a PCR test is given.  How many of the ATK tests that do get posted are then followed up with a PCR test and then those positives counted either the next day or days after.  It is a vicious cycle.  In the US most of the ATK tests are not being performed at home but in facilities where those positives are then counted in the total case loads.  

 

With the New Years Holiday only 6 days past and people just returning this week, I think we will not see the true spread for about another 14 days and then hopefully we see the peak as many other countries are seeing after about 30 days before the numbers start to fall.  It is a rapid spike upwards and yes we can use that word "Exponential" now.

 

This is the worldometers graph from this morning for the world, you can see the spikes in cases.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

Even though we are still seeing many deaths those numbers are trending downward even with the mass of Omicron cases in the world.

Based on the 7-day infection and death rates, 0.3% of people are now dying from covid, roughly equivalent to the flu. When will governments realize that with vaccines and treatments for covid that destroying your economy to save those that would die anyway from the flu is no longer worth it.

I applied on December 28th. They say 3-7 days to process. 6 work days have passed and I have heard nothing yet. I just realized I didn't send the receipts for my pre-booked PCR tests in Phuket, so I sent them. Hopefully, they process my application in time for my flight. I should be flying out next Wednesday. 

 

Will the airlines let you board the plane without the Pass if you have all your documents in order?

Does anyone know where food-grade heat transfer oil can be found in Bangkok? 

 

Thanks in advance.

We appreciate the legitimate responses. For the others, get a hobby.

 

We have consumers and retailers that we need to answer to.

We are looking for coconut suppliers in this area that doesn't use monkey labor. Any recommendations on how we can go about finding such suppliers? Thanks in advance!

Is there anything going on for New Year's Eve this year or will everything be closed? Is there a reliable way to find out what is going on?

Do you need a factory license from the Ministry of Industry if you get a manufacturing license from the Department of Public Health? Is the Department of Public Health enough or is the Ministry of Industry factory license also necessary? Thanks in advance!

Can anyone recommend a website that won't charge a huge fee and is commonly used for finding a part-time personal assistant and/or unskilled labor?

On 12/21/2019 at 3:01 AM, BritTim said:

There is an important distinction between a company being established and your personal situation. If you have successfully established a company without Thai partners, perhaps you could enlighten us on the way you managed to achieve this. It may provide for exceptions to the normal order of events. As I said before, usually the order is:

• you establish a company together with Thai partners;
• those Thai partners carry out some initial necessary administrative issues like VAT registration; and
• with the company properly established, you can then apply for Non B visas as either an employee or director/owner.

You will not get a Non B visa under the auspices of a company that does not yet exist. It is possible if you have business operations outside Thailand that you might be able to get visas under BOI promotion to investigate business opportunities in Thailand.

I have an established company as of this month. It is 100% foreign owned. There are ways to do this: BOI, US-Thai Treaty of Amity, Foreign Business License, and exemptions (import/export and cos manufacturing for their own label, etc.) So I just told the registrar at the DBD I was gonna be a US-Thai Treaty of Amity co and they processed the paperwork. Of the many things that don't make sense, this is one... why don't they require people to get US-Thai treaty of Amity cert before registration? I don't know. But I have a company and I think UbonJoe is right, I'll need to hire people and show to the Dept of Labor social security payments before I can get the WP3. That I will find out for sure next week. By the way, about the VAT registration, I didn't have it and the KL embassy didn't say I needed it. Also, when I called the Penang embassy, the guy who sounded like he had just woken up said I only needed my passport, application and WP3. Maybe those are the only critical requirements, the others are unimportant.

11 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

A WP3 form for a work permit application can only be done when your outside of Thailand.

WPS form: https://www.doe.go.th/prd/assets/upload/files/alien_en/df172270ff13dbee9ce60cc34f9b698d.pdf

You would have use a WP1 or WP2 to apply for a work permit if you are in the country. After the application you get a work permit application approval letter that will be accepted to apply for the non-b visa.

And do you know how similar the details on the WP1 or WP2 are to the WP3? If I am a startup registered this month, how can I show social security payments for employees I don't have? Or could that be possibly waived like the VAT registration requirement?

5 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

You will not be able to get a non-b visa at any nearby location without a work permit application approval letter or a WP3.

This checklist shows it at 5.2. http://www.thaiembassy.org/kualalumpur/contents/images/text_editor/files/5_1.pdf

I think they should waive the VAT registration for a startup company.

I have been looking online for the WP3 but can't seem to locate one, do you happen to know where I can find one online or know what the requirements are? Thanks.