lingyai

Checking to get advice in February 2019. Anyone had a tablet shipped to them, in the $180-$320 range. It seems some sellers are have 3-7 days as shipping which seems too fast?
Did you have to pay tax at customs?

I thought foreigners can't have guns in Thailand?

The person who supplied the gun should face 10 years in prison.

What happened to the inflamatory (basically racist) headline in the email?

"400,000 Chinese tourists to invade Thailand this Songkran"

3-4 a year on same spot, sound suppernaturel, something about that place , like the bridge in scotland or england where the dogs always jump off.

need to be investigated, not by the thai police offcourse

You actually managed to beat the "must have been the girlfriend" crowd, the supernatural angle is a new one to explain why someone who didn't work things out in LOS took this terrible way out.

RIP.

"...someone who didn't work things out in LOS took this terrible way out."

More likely someone who couldn't face returning to Farang Land. Sad to consider how a visit to Thailand can make some people realize how depressing life back in Farang Utopia really is. Hopefully most people would just start planning their next visit to Thailand rather than this sort of "escape."

As to that place being supernatural, it may just be the easiest place to jump after the decision was made.

Life is depressing in Farang Utopia? Thats million of people try to go to Europe and America every year. What so depressing about those places?

Lots of people want to go to a famous place. Not sure how this has much to do with Chinese. There are a lot of them but there are not shortage of Europeans going to Ko Phi Phi. It is up to the Thai gov't to set limits. Not sure how the Chinese are to blame in this situation.

This looks so awful.

How far would you go? As far away from the theater as possible. Pierce you went from Bond to this? Whats next begging outside Nana station?

I have climbed over the rocks the BIB claimed he fell off. They do offer a short cut but they are pitch dark at night and if your pissed they could be lethal.

In this case there might genuinely be no sinister cover up but then again it is Koh Tao we are talking about.

I have seen drunk tourists do some dangerous stuff. See what happens in Laos on the river.

I think his death should be looked into but people do die falling by the water all the time.

This case will provide a realisation of sorts -

Thousands are cancelling as we speak-

Really. Who is cancelling? Most people are not following this case that closely

He was reported in the Thai press as saying he didn't hit her with the laptop as widely reported but pushed her and she fell over, hitting her head on a wardrobe and dying.

However police said they don't believe him since there were marks all over her body not just the head as though she was the victim of a violent assault.

With respect to the deceased, this just really blows my whistle. The coppers pull an about face when a non-Thai is involved, and suddenly become POLICE. When a foreigner is the suspect, they detain, and say things like, "they don't believe him" and they actually look at the clear and obvious circumstantial things at the crime scene and actually "sound" like detectives doing their job.

If this were a Thai who had done it and pulled a runner (e.g. CCTV footage of a Thai or group of Thais leaving the crime scene) the police would never see it or use it. The police would never detain anyone. The police would never say they "don't believe" because of this or that. And to top it all off the police would probably say that the victim had fallen or committed suicide.

It really seems that when I read things like this and I ask myself, "What's wrong with this picture? The police are actually doing their job and saying things that police are supposed to say... no Burmese... no guitar... no condoms".

I really have to struggle not to emphatically hate these guys, to be truthful.

Again, RIP to the lady, whatever happened to her.

When a woman is killed the bf / husband / lover have a high likely hood of being the murder. It is not surprised they got this guy quickly. The Koh Tao case is one where there was not an obvious killer.

She went on Facebook despite him forbidding it? What is wrong with some of these blokes?

They think that marriage is the prerogative of every human on the planet. The fact is if you are of a controlling nature, or have a quick temper you really should be living on your own rather than becoming a risk to someone else and making their life miserable. If you are still single at 40 in your own country there is probably a very good reason why.

The reason is you don't want to get married. You are having plenty good time being single.

Another farang murders a Thai woman. They are much more dangerous than the media reports. When farang men lose face they go crazy with jealousy and will attack.

Meanwhile, local officials in Surat Thani said yesterday that tourists were returning to Koh Tao resort island in droves after the alleged culprits in the murders of British tourists Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were arrested.

Thawisak Inphrom, the chief of Koh Pha-ngan district, of which Koh Tao is part, said that tourism on Koh Tao has become "busy again" following the arrests.

"Tourists now have become more confident about safety on the island, and they are confident the authorities can provide safety for them," he said.

Surat Thani Governor Chatpong Chatrapoot said the arrest of the suspects had helped restore confidence among prospective tourists to Koh Tao.

Not one bit of regret offered to the families of the victims, but hey the tourists are coming back so all is good in la la land so lets get back to scamming...

Sick bstards. I just hope/wish that they get all they deserve.

jb1

What do they deserve, oh please tell.

Meanwhile, local officials in Surat Thani said yesterday that tourists were returning to Koh Tao resort island in droves after the alleged culprits in the murders of British tourists Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were arrested.

Thawisak Inphrom, the chief of Koh Pha-ngan district, of which Koh Tao is part, said that tourism on Koh Tao has become "busy again" following the arrests.

"Tourists now have become more confident about safety on the island, and they are confident the authorities can provide safety for them," he said.

Surat Thani Governor Chatpong Chatrapoot said the arrest of the suspects had helped restore confidence among prospective tourists to Koh Tao.

Not one bit of regret offered to the families of the victims, but hey the tourists are coming back so all is good in la la land so lets get back to scamming...

OMG. So they made a statement about tourism. Lots of people depend on tourists. Including Burmese migrant workers.

Didn't the same thing take place in 2000? A westerner was raped and murdered in Chang Mai. The Thai police rounded up a migrant worker from Myanmar, roughed him up and made him confess. The whole thing was a sham, and the police were caught. They had to let the guy go. The case is still unresolved.

I understand that there is a lot of pressure to end this case. Tourist dollars are on the line. This isn't the way to do this. It's not right.

Finally, even if these are the guys that did it the police on Koh Tao have a lot of explaining to do. They are undocumented and illegal migrant workers who live and work on that island. The police are taking bribes. That's a fact! If I'm a tourist I am not going to feel safe. In that regard the people in power are to blame for this murder.

This is going to still cripple their economy. I can't see a lot of people vacationing there. If I had a choice between Koh Tao or Vietnam, I'm going to Vietnam.

It is not going to cripple their economy. Minor dip at the most.

Last time a western woman was raped and killed two Thai men were convicted.

http://www.scotsman.com/news/world/death-sentence-for-fishermen-who-killed-student-katherine-1-977760

I don't know if these Burmese guys did it but clearly The Thai police do arrest Thai people for crimes against westerners.

Could we just take those men AWAY from the custody of the police? And put them under an international police agency with cctv and just ask them 1 question.

"Ok you are safe now, from any abuse or pressure, tell us the true story. Did you really commit the crime? I don't care what threats the police may have forced on you or your family. I can completely take those threats away and punish those police. Now answer my question. "

THAT would be priceless

In Thailand? A pipe dream! All that's left to us doubters is trying our best to boycott that "feces container" (still suffering from warnings and S.. ahemm stuff...) named Koh Tao and tell friends, family, forums, etc. to stay away from that place.

I'm quite sure they will be executed within a few weeks or even days so they can't talk.

As I said earlier - the whole case is a slap in the face of humanity.

And Jesus continues to weep...

Well maybe Jesus should have stepped in instead of weeping.

apparently the point is missed on you. Plenty of people don't want to give DNA even when they have not committed any crime. Google it.

With out probable cause the court isn't going to issue a warrant. Refusing isn't probable cause.

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I don't see that I am missing any point. I will say again we are not discussing the USA....
As for giving DNA if you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to hide. Also if the authorities really want your DNA all they need to do is seek a court order, similar to search warrant.
jb1

Problem is you will not believe any Burmese did it now after all the Thai bashing on here. Maybe time to take a break and look at the facts again ? Is it really possible that someone else than the headman and his family did it ?

Ok, but if I was one of the Thai, main suspect's as in one of the influential family and was totally innocent as they claim, I would be more than happy to give my DNA for analysis.
I would also do whatever was in my power to help the investigation to a successful and just conclusion. So that life could return to normal on the Island and everyone would be happy smiley people again.
What do you think?
jb1

If they police were so corrupt as claimed then maybe you would not want to give your DNA. Not everyone want to give law enforcement access to their DNA. Maybe that could lead them to some crime you committed before. Hell some nuts in the US don't want to have simple gun registration.

If you have the money, in a corrupt society, as you are saying then surely you would have no need to worry.
By the way we are not talking about the US.
jb1

I guess you missed the point where the US is considered less corrupt but still people don't want to give their info to the police. You also avoid the point that people don't want to cooperate because they don't want to be discovered for some other crime. Also maybe you think another "mafia" family wouldn't mind seeing you be pushed off the island by typing you to a horrific crime. Clearly there are many legitimate reason why someone might not offer up their DNA right away when they have nothing to do with the crime.

Unless I hear a confirmation from the British police or the FBI, I will never believe the results "obtained" by the Thai police.

Too right,

This could well be a framing, just to see the end of the embarrassment for the 'tourism industry'. Seems very convenient. And where are these DNA samples being analysed? Can we even believe the results given the level of corruption in this country? I'd say the Myanmar workers are being made scapegoats. And whatever happened to the village head's son. All buried? Very odd...

Has it skipped our minds that the police admitted they had planted a pair of pants with blood clearly visible on the cuffs, in Chris Wares suitcase ? To what lengths will these police go is the question. Not whether they will go there at all. We know they will, it's down the what extent.

I would be willing to lay a wager on my thoughts on that.

They didn't plant pants. Those pants had paint or something not blood. Why would they plant pants that didn't have blood!

(google it)

This is how BS is spread on the TV forum.

So the guy was a waiter at the bar they left before being murdered? So the police disn't get his DNA first time round? How is that possible?

Or this is the third one who didn't participate?

Were any of the influential families down there forced to give DNA? If not, why not?

Because why should the police be able to get your DNA without a warrant that is based on probable cause?

Most western countries police can't just get your DNA without a warrant.

@ Fat Haggis (it will not let me reply directly too many quotes)

I guess you didn't get what I wrote. You "If it was that dark how could they have seen the victims in the first place?" Implying I said it very dark.

The whole point is it wasn't pitch black. They could seem the couple and hear them. You questioned how they could have could have murdered a bigger man because. I told you it was dark making it not impossible to see but harder (hence the whole catching the ball scenario) and they had weapons and the victims had been drinking.

Problem is you will not believe any Burmese did it now after all the Thai bashing on here. Maybe time to take a break and look at the facts again ? Is it really possible that someone else than the headman and his family did it ?

Ok, but if I was one of the Thai, main suspect's as in one of the influential family and was totally innocent as they claim, I would be more than happy to give my DNA for analysis.

I would also do whatever was in my power to help the investigation to a successful and just conclusion. So that life could return to normal on the Island and everyone would be happy smiley people again.

What do you think?

jb1

If they police were so corrupt as claimed then maybe you would not want to give your DNA. Not everyone want to give law enforcement access to their DNA. Maybe that could lead them to some crime you committed before. Hell some nuts in the US don't want to have simple gun registration.

If you have the money, in a corrupt society, as you are saying then surely you would have no need to worry.

By the way we are not talking about the US.

jb1

I guess you missed the point where the US is considered less corrupt but still people don't want to give their info to the police. You also avoid the point that people don't want to cooperate because they don't want to be discovered for some other crime. Also maybe you think another "mafia" family wouldn't mind seeing you be pushed off the island by typing you to a horrific crime. Clearly there are many legitimate reason why someone might not offer up their DNA right away when they have nothing to do with the crime.

David would have leathered those 2 scrawny brats, even with a beer in him - probably worse - he was a big lad! Again, that doesn't add up; never discussed.

Two people with weapons in the dark when you have been drinking and caught off guard? I don't think so.

If it was that dark how could they have seen the victims in the first place?

So what you're basically saying is that armed with hoes and clubs and hardons the murders of Hannah and David was completely pre-meditated?

Really. because I really said it was pitch black. Have someone throw a ball at you in the day time and the same one at night. You might see the ball at the last minute but it will be hard to catch. Also where did I say it was premeditated. Maybe they got in argument because they were watching. Who knows. The victim only has to be hit once to be stunned and then can't fight back.

Problem is you will not believe any Burmese did it now after all the Thai bashing on here. Maybe time to take a break and look at the facts again ? Is it really possible that someone else than the headman and his family did it ?

Ok, but if I was one of the Thai, main suspect's as in one of the influential family and was totally innocent as they claim, I would be more than happy to give my DNA for analysis.

I would also do whatever was in my power to help the investigation to a successful and just conclusion. So that life could return to normal on the Island and everyone would be happy smiley people again.

What do you think?

jb1

If they police were so corrupt as claimed then maybe you would not want to give your DNA. Not everyone want to give law enforcement access to their DNA. Maybe that could lead them to some crime you committed before. Hell some nuts in the US don't want to have simple gun registration.

With the peak tourist season fast approaching, Thai authorities are desperate to draw a line under the incident.

That's they key phrase here, so desperate that anyone, not Thai of course would do. If these guys had done it they would have run days ago.

In fact, that's what I believe, too. If they are the rapists and killers, why didn't they run long time ago back to Burma, where they, at least for the moment, would have been relatively safe ?

From the news: while one was confirmed to be Cho who hurriedly left Koh Tao shortly after he was released after being questioned earlier by police, the source said.

Also lots of murders don't run. Case after case you will see people arrested at there house months after a murder. People think they will get away with it.

Excellent news. Now what will it take to convince the skeptics on TV?

Proof beyond a reasonable doubt would do it for me.

If I was one of two, scrawny, (from the pics, under 5') Myanmar nationals who viciously killed two Brits three weeks ago with a garden hoe to their faces,...I'd probably be wondering right now,...why did I stay on Ko Tao after the grisly murder of two much taller, in shape backpackers,...and not make my way back to Burma.

Looking forward to the psychological profile of these two,...and independent verification of the alleged DNA tests.

from the news: while one was confirmed to be Cho who hurriedly left Koh Tao shortly after he was released after being questioned earlier by police, the source said.