Holy Cinema

He missed out the word "GOOD"

There are many times when he begins to say something positive and sincere, which is the point where he should stop, but unfortunately most of the time he turns such an incident into a free for all that has the likes of djjamie wetting their pants. 

 

7 hours ago, halloween said:

The RTA cop a heap of stick for claiming who isn't responsible when they don't know who did it, and then all the usual suspects are equally sure it's not the reds. Google "hypocrisy". Any suggestion that they may be involved is attacked immediately.

It comes complete with a pantheon of  highly unlikely alternative suspects, (though I'm still waiting for Suthep to get a personal mention) up to and including the PDRC. My personal preference is for a troop of boy scouts seeking rare merit badges - it's no more stupid than some suggestions here.

Any suggestion they may involved is attacked immediately, almost like your own hypocrisy when you and your, Thaksin hating cohorts blame them immediately 

If you keep it up, I'm sure one day you might actually  be right, as you were also one of the "It was the Reds" when the Erwan shrine bombing took place, and when the Koh Samui bombing took place.

as you said before Google is your friend.. look up the term Hypocrite, and put the cap on that comes with it.

1 minute ago, cumgranosalum said:

do you seriously think that is what security would do?

As opposed to what they should be doing?

14 minutes ago, Saraburi121 said:

Something I can not understand is the killing of innocent people to further your agenda.  A vendor that was just trying to make a living was killed?  A sane mind just can't make sense of this bombing.   How much anger or hate does it take to put a bomb in a place where people are having fun and trying to make a living?

There's something else you don't understand, and that's the concept of terrorism, and the agenda driven ideology that goes with it, collateral damage is of no concern to any one with the intent to commit such acts of.

Sane minds do and will make sense, that's the job of Intelligence Analysts, Forensics, Anti Terrorism, Counter terrorism SME's and analysts.

How much anger and hate? none, it takes a belief in an ideology that makes you believe you're doing the right thing, there's also the well known fact that people are forced to place bombs against their will, but they know that by not doing it, their families will be killed, and so will they.

Then as cold and blunt as this may come over, people get killed for simply being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and are unwitting victims of such acts, just like the victims of a car accident, where another vehicle was to blame. 

33 minutes ago, AGareth2 said:

well the southern boys have the bombs and the people

The date was probably picked some time ago

12 incidents over a 500 km area would take planning and personel

65 bombs in the region in 10 days, easy enough for them to coordinate 12 in one day.

1 minute ago, waitforusalso said:

http://www.newmandala.org/bombs-facts-myths-southern-thailand/

People like Robblok and Smedley should be reading this, as they've been saying the region was quiet!!

The sooner authorities stop downplaying this as an act of terrorism, the more credibility they will garner, they did the same with the Erwan bombing.

The act and intent is what makes it Terrorism, regardless of whom carried the attacks out.

They just won't admit to it being terrorism, it's the one thing everyone who is contributing to such threads agree on.....it's Terrorism, no need to try and dismiss it as anything else, it makes you look foolish, and clueless.

2 minutes ago, Goanna said:

It's a bit of a stretch to believe that someone just happened to have these bombs on hand immediately after the referendum, and already had the crew organised.

What crap. It's the same crowd doing all the southern bombs. Something to do with some religious group.

They would have to had bought the detonators from somewhere too, one simply doesn't walk into an unknown area where nobody knows you, and you start asking for the ingrediants to make several bombs.

This was a coordinated attack, similar to many that happen all across Yala but there's a group of posters here, who are praying so hard this is pinned on the red shirts as it suits their warped agendas, and they have this mentality that anti junta =Pro Thaksin 5555 ...clueless and priceless, they think this is all like a football game where you have to like one team or the other, when they can't accept you might not even like the game at all, and prefer another sport!!!!

Just now, Andrew65 said:

You obviously haven't been in some of the more "colourful" establishments in Thailand!

 

Some people pay good money for that kind of thing!

Ask any man who is married to a Thai woman, when she goes off on  a rant, they will say anything to stop it too 55555

Just now, robblok said:

Isis always makes their claims quite fast and certainly enough time has been past.

Wrong again. many times they don't make claims for days, even weeks, if at all, it all depends on the outcome of the attack, and the damage inflicted.

2 minutes ago, robblok said:

The government can do in the South whatever they want, they don't need a new mandate for it. Nobody cares about the South do you ever see it in the international news ? 

Isn't that a good enough reason, setting off bombs, to actually make people start to think and care? They if anywhere in Thailand have seen the Army at their worst. think about this for a moment.

4 minutes ago, robblok said:

False flag is highly unlikely after just winning the referendum, only tinfoil hat people would think about something like that.

And ignorance of causes and reasons would make people dismiss them.

5 minutes ago, robblok said:

The fact is by winning the referendum they had what they wanted and did not need this. 

Which includes a mandate that would effect the deep south by making Buhddism the National Religion, they also DONT have everything they want, sim card tracking ring any bells? single gateway ring any bells?

7 minutes ago, robblok said:

So that just leaves the South and redshirts.. I guess your praying its not your beloved redshirts because defending them then would be real hard. 

So a disenfranchised business people, who has seen perhaps a clampdown by the authorites habe no motives? Local Mafias have no motives? Open minds have no place in your bubble then?

My beloved red shirts? I can't stand them, I dislike the Junta too, in fact I dislike 90% of politicians, and corrupt coppers and Army Generals as well, but please continues to stoop down to a name calling infantile response, leave the discussions to the grown ups and people who are not sycophants then

10 minutes ago, robblok said:

For me I just use ocams razor to go for the two likely suspects. Just like you used it ocam's razor before in a post however now you are wringing in all kind of positions to make this look like false flag. Its just not probable.

Occams Razor doesn't include two options.
 

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Yala provincial chief Major Itthipol Atchariyapradit led a team of explosive ordnance disposal (EOD) officials to the scene of the attack in Tambon Yaha.

The EOD officers found metal pieces of fish cans used to make the half-kilogram bomb, which was detonated by a timer.

The bomb was placed in a coffee bag and left at the scene.

The four men sustained slight wounds and were discharged from hospital after being treated.

Open minds

57 minutes ago, halloween said:

I'm not ruling out the Great Pumpkin.

Yourself? Your avatar would indicate you're a pumpkin.......no argument there!!

Just now, thai3 said:

Surely the boiling water has don it's job by now, why no charges yet?

Torture doesn't work, those tortured will say anything to stop it.

The perpetrators will be whoever the authorities want them to be.period.

1 hour ago, djjamie said:

Looking forward to seeing where this goes with these 2 suspects. 

 

Such a shame that all this is doing is hurting the country and the very people that are the main suspects are defended by minority supporters who at the same time still condemn the military that are trying to protect the people.

 

What a messed up world were the violent minority suspects are defended and if they are found guilty through evidence the verdict is still brushed aside as the work of the military. Until the reason for the problem is accepted it will continue. The majority now see it. This and this reason alone is the root cause of why the majority no longer support this violent group and we can only hope the majority again work through these troubles in Thailand and not let violence be the solution to guide the country politically. 

It's an even more messed up world in which Farangs  who came from such countries that fought for freedom and democracy defend military Regimes !!!!

3 minutes ago, robblok said:

If you are implying false flag.. the military already had good control over the country especially after the referendum. This damages the economy and that is the last thing they want it makes no sense. 

 

The only 2 real options are insurgents / reds (both have proven their violent capabilities in the past)

ISIS is out still has not claimed responsibility.

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They have NEVER had good control over the South, where all these bombs went off, why do you keep making false and inaccurate statements like this?

I asked you yesterday to keep and open mind and to think outside of the box, and yet you are immediately dispelling any possible false flag in this matter, you sound likr the kind of guy who makes up his mind immediately, and closes off their minds as they believe everything they're being told.

Nice one, you've been conditioned to no longer be able to think for yourself.

NO country would EVER acknowledge false flags, but you should always keen an open mind that they could very easily do so.

There is also more than 2 options as well.

1 minute ago, seajae said:

while most of the bombs have been in fairly touristy areas one was found not far from our place(few hundred metres) in an area that is frequented by thai families mainly as well as youths, it is not touristy at all. The insurgents have been using bombs that cause way more damage than the ones we are seeing now and they are also in areas the insurgents want. Last weekend the thais voted for a referendum(mainly voted yes in the south) that will stop many party members/officials from being re elected if they have been or are corrupt and any that have been/are convicted of crimes, this will effect several in the ptp and red shirt factions(leaders especially) more so than the others, it will also make it very hard for them to be able to get back into govt at the elections. The possibility that all this is a result of that is not out of the question,  doesnt mean it was not insurgents but certainly could be a just as much if not more of a probability, hopefully we will all know more before too long or any more deaths

Mainly voted yes in the South? Not the Southern part where the Separatist Islamic Insurgents have their base, they voted a resounding NO.

 

2 hours ago, Siripon said:

Nobody is thinking the red shirts, they are thinking the very rich owners of the red shirts who have lost out with the vote on the constitution.

Do you honestly believe that the Reds or Thaksin ever expected a NO vote when they were not allowed to debate or discuss the charter in any shape or form?

The whole way in which the referendum was conducted was done solely to benefit the Junta, and the "good people" the decks were as stacked then as they are for any potential election next year, Prayuth and Suthep are not done dismantling the Thaksin support base yet, not by a long shot. The purge in its truest form hasn't even begun yet.

The next election is already pointless, when no MP's or potential MP's are allowed to canvass till "just before the polls open" what does that tell of the mindset of those who wish to keep their snouts in the trough longer.

2 hours ago, Franky Bear said:

yes it is. The biggest thing is having the balls to do it. They are also not as stupid as you think. they know if they did go balls out all over the country they would get hit hard. Terrorists, although evil have smart people directing them.

I wouldn't bet on it, as every time something like this happens, it all unfolds on LINE as it's the terrorists favourite App in Thailand, it's how they all get caught   using an un secure app, and discussing TTP's is far from smart.

4 hours ago, smedly said:

if southern terrorists don't claim responsibility then what was the point, unless they claim responsibility then the police are likely correct - political motivation

 

as I have said many times, if Thaksin doesn't get his own way he will make every effort to destroy Thailand but he will not have the ball  s to take responsibility as that would be counter productive to his reputation or what is left of it

They haven't exactly been making such claims over the past 10 years have they?

You don't see the Southern Insurgency as political either then? You don't see that the draft charter wanted to have Buddhism as the National Religion even when it's actually a faith and not technically a religion? 

yes you've said it so often it's not worth listening to as I'm still waiting for Thailand to be destroyed ever since he went into self imposed exile, you love your hyperbole, as much as your Junta.

The red shirts have everything to lose if this was their handy work, the Police have already stated numerous times, the MO's and types of devices are similar to that used of the Southern Insurgents.

The reds couldn't organise or muster more than 6-10,000 at their last Bangkok Rally but you keep banging on about them leading towards a civil war, they couldn't organise a blanket NO vote for the referendum either, but all of a sudden, they're sophisticated and coordinated enough to be able to move right out of their comfort zones, 5 days after the No vote, and plant, and detonate all these devices, within a 12 hour period?


Roll me whatever it is you're smoking and pass that "dutchie"

1 hour ago, Old Croc said:

Reportedly they have one of the Hua Hin bombers in custody.

He has shown them where they had planted a total of 11 bombs in the town, so it seems he is definitely part of it.

Ergo, the authorities must now have a good idea which group is responsible. Hopefully they will show some leadership soon and release information to the public. The rumours rushing around the country are out of control.

Where do you think those rumours originated?

1 hour ago, Sparkles said:

Pure speculation by yourself and others. Chill out and wait for credible evidence

Pass that memo onto the authorities Chief

PM asked the media not to sensationalise the attacks today, and this headline is about as sensational and even worse blatantly inaccurate as it comes. 

Stalingrad was under Seige

Saigon was under seige

Thailand has had 8-10 devices go off/found in a "Region" that historically has them going off every day,  last week or a week or two back, there was a day when Yala had 12 or so devices found/go off.

It wasn't under siege then either.

Just now, Ricardo said:

 

That's not what the BBC are saying  ...

 

"No group has said it carried out the attacks, but suspicion is likely to fall on separatist insurgents.

The timing is sensitive, as Friday is a holiday marking the queen's birthday."

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37046943

It's also both the Islamic and Jewish Holy days, and it's never been off limits to those who intend to inflict death and destruction on their enemies.