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Looks a bit wide for the pillion to sit comfortably.
I had hesitations too but after 3000 km on the bike, 500 km with the box filtering in Bangkok every other day.. no issues... if the front mirrors pass, so will the back. Does not throw off the weight and balance. Only issue is parking .. it makes it longer... so you gottta watch the back.
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Couldn't edit my post in Tapatalk.
I've decided to wait until anyone can confirm that the original Yamaha version will also fit other brand top boxes.
It does not, I went to two different box store,, both said I needed to drill 2-3 holes to mount a givi or a shad. I went with the shad with only two holes that needed to be dilled. On the plus side , I got the Yamaha rack for only 5,000 baht at original point of pick up as opposed to 6,000 now. No issues after the install. Rock solid.
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Ref the power outlet on the Xmax is this purely for charging a phone etc, will it power a mini air compressor? If not can you get an adapter that will allow you to do this?
I remember trying this on the Forza but it just blew the fuse.
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The fuse blew.. hardwire it to a power outlet and adapter right to the battery
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I would be interested in hearing any comparisons from those of you that have ridden or owned both the NMax and the XMax.
I presently own an NMax and I am considering trading up to the XMax.
When I get a chance , ill try to do a full comparison. Im 86kg and 178cm. At 3000km so far, In short the Xmax is not just an nmax with a lttle more power. He’s definitely the big brother. ,can cruise 130 no problem , max stock speed 145ish . Xmax has a more sporty seating position, and sits staight and much higher. Xmax filters through 90 % of Bangkok traffic. Excellent storage. Excellent response from the engine. Excellent Dashboard.
On the negative side .. i prefer the nmax seating position more and parking the xmax can be difficult here in Bangkok. I prefer the windshield to be... higher. And maybe new tires.. stock tires doesnt feel grippy at cornering... but.. its still new.
Front forks and rear suspension have been upgraded to yss after 1500km and tuned to my preference. She feels just fabulous. She has kept up with 650s and more. Riding position is very similiar to a versys 650 but the xmax is more straight up .Pillion riders will be riding much higher and wider.
Hope this helps. I certainly recommend test riding before getting one. I have no regrets.
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2 months,2500 km .. updates , adjustments and upgrades ..
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It should be sweet when you find that perfect balance point between front and rear suspension settings.
Don't let my 'eye candy' comment in any way detract from the far more magnitude of importance of your upgrades - they just add the additional benefit of increasing your scooter's already good looks. I too, will be doing the same upgrades as soon as I get my scooter. A perfect fitting seat is also an important factor to the rider in the overall quality of the scooter and the XMax and Forza 300 do have wide seats, IMO, though the XMax seat is visibly a couple of inches or so longer in length than the seat of the Forza 300.
How long did it take the mechanics to complete the work on your scooter?
About 2 hours., mostly for the front fork work .
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Trikyle, you really know how to do things all the way right - nice eye candy ...
excellent, excellent quality bike upgrades (and at the best facility ) to help bring out the best handling potential that your XMax 300 has to offer!!!
Which model YSS shocks did you install and is that a new exhaust that you installed?
Would you do all of us a favor and let us know in what ways your XMax rides differently (improved?) since you added the upgrades?
Thank you Ahnsahn. Kinds words brother. I didnt do it for the ‘eye candy’ but more for a better feel for comfort especially the front fork upgrade.
Same exhaust just an extra sticker.
I asked them to readjusted the front forks right away after the install because all I ride is Bangkok and I wanted a softer response ( obviously ) from all the uneveness from Bangkok streets.
I may have to play and continuously adjust the rebound on the g-sport rear shocksfor a bit until im satisfied with the different amount of daily wieght I put on her. Ill let you know.
If I change anything else.. itll be the seat.. if the ever come out with a lower / narrower seat that doesn’t compromise the interior 45Liter storage... oh and also a better more user friendly left hand controller with a better placed passing light.
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I could have debated with myself forever on getting it and lose sleep.. or..
just do it...
presenting...
Todays upgrade..
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nice review Trikyle
do you know where is it possible to see the X300 in Yamaha shop in BKK ?
Thanks.. hoping it gives insight to those that are looking to purchase one. My dealer had said these are currently hard to come by. Even if he has one in stock that a pre order change thier mind it will be priced higher than 168,000. May i suggest joining and following the xmax club thailand page on facebook. All the dealers are on it and you post and ask there. Every once in a while a dealer or a member (that wants to sell his down payment receipt) will post one up. Good luck
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Very good comprehensive review!
You ticked all the boxes.
Question: How does 2up riding on the Nmax compare with 2up riding on the Xmax and the 2014 Honda PCX? Is the ride smoother? Is the handling better? Also in comparison, what would be the level of comfort of the pillion riding on the Nmax on a trip to Ayutthaya?
2 up riding on the Xmax is better.. heavier shocks.. but a little rough. Forget the PCX. And anyone riding long distance from Bangkok to Ayutthaya on the back pillion on the nmax would not be as comfortable as on the Xmax. It’s just a bigger better bike.
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Hi all, I thought I'd jot down some thoughts on my initial impressions of the new 2017 Yamaha Xmax in comparison to the 2016 Yamaha Nmax and also a slight comparison in regards to riding position to my previous sports tourer , a 2005 Kawasaki concours. This is to help those thinking of getting the nmax or Xmax. First off , I want to put the other scooter out of this equation. I’d agree 100% that then Yamaha nmax blows the Honda pcx away. I had a 2014. Many reviews and comparison on those two out there.
Im 5’10”... 177cm and 86kg. Inseam of 32. Experienced in city traffic riding in NYC, Bangkok.
The first 250 km on the Xmax was ridden locally in Bangkok, but mostly solo from Bangkok to Ayutthaya to visit family.
1. Is it worth 168,000 baht.
-thats relative. To me.. it is.
2. Does it meet my expectation.
-Yes and then some
3. What I like about it.
-More power
-higher seating position.
-Excellent large 45L underseat storage.
-Surprisingly more stabile in straight line filtering through Bangkok traffic at low speeds than the max due to stiffer steering response.
-Fatter tires.. increase stability at higher speeds on major roads.
-increased fuel tank for longer touring increases the miles between gas station fill ups.
-keyless remote.
4.Why not buy a real bike.
-I don’t need nor want to. I Usually ride locally or small trips to visit family. If I need to go farther , Id take a car or a plane. Im old. My ass like AC and comfort. I also don’t wanna spend anymore than I have to.
-chains. I just don’t wanna deal with it. nuff of it in this life.
5.its speed and power
-I had it up to 120 bangkok to/from Ayutthaya. Very nice. The high seating position was an advantage of course.
-I usually baby my bike unless Im in an emergency sit. I gotta quickly get out of.
-Im not a speed guy but she’s quick. I believe the power bandwidth goes past 140-150. Other reviews are out there
-didn't feel any negative vibrations but.. I wear gloves and I was on a new bike high. Lol
-I have enough injuries and Im not looking for anymore. Road conditions(sand, oil, fish oil, cow shit, coconut shells and the worldwide popular potholes..etc... including other motorist on the road are the worst Ive ever seen, and I've seen enough for one lifetime. I think we all know that. Large motoring population+ poor road maintenance (most are good tho)+ lack of education + modern tech in car and cctv cams = wonderful final destinations tutoring utube videos and FB postings.. That being said...Im fine being last.
6. Windshield
-two positions. I have it at the higher position. I may get a taller wider one, not sure yet. There is slight buffeting at high speed wearing a full helmet. Depending on your torso height, you may or may not get some bug DOAS on your face shield.
7.Dimensions
-According to Yamaha spec sheets its 10 inches linger with the same width across. I find the width part unbelievable. The 45 L trunk is Fat and wide. It can accommodate a medium shark spartan and a Shoe Rf1200 with sena 20s and Go pro mounts and then some perfectly. The front width of the handlebars appears to be an exact match . I added Mirror mount risers so I done have to tilt my head down. Works.
8.Power outlet `
-I added a 4 usb channel charger and the wires stickup perfectly with the cover locked and closed to charge a tomtom rider and iPhone on a quad lock case and mounts. The tomtom shook a bit at high speeds and bumps but quad lock was steady as a rock streaming iheartradio and google maps.
9.Improvements
-Taller and wider windshield for touring?
-yss g sport shocks?
-yss front fork springs upgrade?
-im just being picky.. these are upgrades but it really doesn’t need it if your doing just city riding.
11.Maintenance
-20000km.. change the belt..other than oil changes...thats it.. me like
10. What Id like to change and impressions
- the geometry of the seating position from upper torso to handlebars to neck and eye level sight is quite different between the max and Xmax, ideally I like it equal my Kawasaki concoursbut the Xmax has a bit more.. sporty lean… you lean in a bit lower and more. In Long distance.. it can strain more of your shoulders and back. But in city riding.. its fine. I know handlebar risers would do the trick but they’d never mass produce and manufacture such a thing. .. again I’m just being picky and everyones body profile and dynamics are different. Could I change to a lower seat to get a more touring seating position.. I guess I could.. but I may lose out on the sporty lean . A taller windshield could also help in my seating position. No bike is ever perfect. Just thoughts. Note.. a solo 3.5 hr ride from Bangkok to Lamnarai on the nmax was better for my shoulders. The nmax handled quite well, just a little light in weight on the bigger roads. The Xmax I believe has 100lbs over it.
-im not sure as my memory fades but this may be the highest seating position on a bike Ive ever rode.
-corner filtering may be slightly more difficult in bangkok traffic than nmax, but ill b fine
- the rear shocks seem fine for city traffic.
-at 168000baht,, its not for everyone… its not a small scooter. It doesn’t ride like a small scooter. Im not even sure how ill park in some of the busier malls in bangkok… Hard to get in to MBK scooter parking.. but I don’t quite fit in to big bike parking… hmmm.. Im sure Ill find a workaround tho..
-nmax is perfect for city riding. Its one of the best. The xmax 300 is for someone who wants a little more without going to a full size bike. The unseat storage is CAVERNOUS for grocery shopping.. which is what I do. lol
-I should mention I normally ride 50% of the time 2 up… she feels the rear seat is really big and sits up closer to the front with me because the Yamaha rear rack I ordered isn’t in from the shop yet , so I haven’t attached my givi trunk for her to lean on. Shes 45 kg.. so when the light turns green.. Id like to wake her up a bit… lol[emoji847]
- thanks for reading if you made it this far. Hope I didn’t waste too much of your time. cheers
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Great idea: A review / comparison of your Nmax and Xmax 300 to the Forza 300 and the PCX 150 (as well as 300 class vs 150 class scooters in general) is exactly what is needed! For example, your statement: "The added weight and its low center of gravity of the Xmax makes it an ease", how does this compare to the Forza with its added weight and low center of gravity? Also, how do they compare in filtering, handling, acceleration. What, if any, do differences in wheel size affect handling and performance? Would after market shocks improve the ride? Etc., etc.
Ok, im working on it. I have no Forza experience so I cant compare but I can certainly compare to my nmax.. wheel size definitely affects.. the Xmax handles almost like a smaller sports tourer...stay tuned ..
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You guys have quite a nice collection of scooters!
MRJ: No wonder you have that wind problem with that small windscreen, I thought the taller type windscreen was the standard.
Whoa, just noticed you added the Akrapovic!
Trikyle: Would you describe the ride quality of your Nmax to be more 'stiffer' than that of your Xmax? Is that a pic of them delivering your Xmax off of the truck?
Really nice looking 300s!
Yep, that’s delivery day. I have 250 km so far.. and have been putting my thoughts on paper.. maybe I’ll put up a small review / comparison between the nmax and Xmax if guys are interested. To answer your question.. then Xmax is stiffer.. possibly because it’s new?.. lol... straight away filtering in Bangkok traffic is surprisingly easy (provided there’s enough room because the rear is fatter and slightly longer). The added weight and its low center of gravity of the Xmax makes its an ease.
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Nice! Funny how it looks like the Xmax is the smaller of the two from that angle.
Yea.. i shouldve pulled the rear of the Xmax out more but i was on a narrow one way street and was in a rush.. so had to make do... in a way.. i also wanted it to look like it was kinda of asking acceptance from the nmax..[emoji1].. here some more pics
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Nmax meet your sister , Xmax[emoji8]
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YouTube vlogger TheMissendenFlyer has just posted a first impressions/roadtest for the Xmax300 which is well worth watching.
Good stuff, thanks
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Today was in the Pattaya area of South Road and Soi Buakhao and passing the Mityon dealer there I spotted a Xmax. Out of curiosity I asked the sales guy the price (confirmed 168,000) and the lead time if I was to buy. His reply was he could get one in two days, any color!!
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Heres your online downloadable english manual...
https://www.yamaha-motor.eu/uk/services/owner-manuals/index.aspx
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Visited the Bitec Motor show yesterday. The main reason for my trip was to see the Xmax. I left disappointed along with many Thai's hanging around the same time I was there. The bike looked great, but the seat is simply too high for most Thai's. I watched a half dozen of them try to sit on the Xmax shaking their heads when their toes barely touched the ground... my wife included. They also walked away frustrated. The Xmax looks like a success for the limited farang market but I believe they have seriously damaged their sales with the Thai market by releasing this bike with a seat higher than many larger displacement scooters. Guess I'll wait a few months. I imagine there will be a few lower aftermarket seats available by then.
Suzuki had the 650 Burgman imported from Japan. Beautiful scooter (lower seat than Xmax) by I don't really want a 650 for running around town. 380,000 baht.
The Forza was nowhere to be scene. I guess they are embarrassed as the Xmax looks like a much nicer 300 at the moment.
I’m 177 cm in height and if I’m sitting back on the seat , I tippy toe to the ground, which is fine by me, but for anyone shorter... it maybe a task. Aftermarket seats will help but I think it will cut down on the under seat storage that the Oem seat was design for...
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Thank you sir, ....Good question on the English manual ... not sure.. ill try to find out.. ( i doubt it though) but not worried.. just glad its sort of finally here..
Fyi.. its slightly taller even as my foot still touches the ground easily and its slightly longer than my nmax but definitely significantly wider.. might not be able to filter through as much with bangkok traffic but I had to get it.. it was simply irresistible [emoji30].
Never had a forza to compare it to but got a feeling its a better ride( just like the nmax over the pcx)
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congrats _ what they told you about expected delivery date ? they deliver to your home as well? What order number you got?
Thank you bro, December, most likely January... I’m not in a rush... no order #, but he said they are around 500 as of yesterday. we got each other’s line and He’s gonna deliver to my home. Sweeeet
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You only live once, I got the white. Live to ride baby.. Live to ride @ Big Motor Sale ไบเทค บางนา
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