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1 hour ago, Nord X said:

22 years-old and already have a big house and a dog, your doing quite well. You may have difficulty getting your 11 year-old girlfriend a visa though.

I'm 33 she is 22. Lol !

On 11/08/2017 at 11:22 PM, NCFC said:

Thais hate you because so many of you have moved to Thailand and live in poor areas witb poor people. They're jealous that you have more than them and the relationship between you and them is unequal.
If you lived in a rich area and were of a comparable social and financial status as your Thai neighbours, I doubt you'd have many problems, but so many low-income farangs swamping poor parts of Thailand is going to end in tears for many farang.

I don't live here. Soon I go back to my rich happy home. Big house, nice dog, maybe a Thai gf to come and visit me. 22 years old, 11 years my Junior. Why not? I can afford her. 

The other day, a motorbike taxi rider almost attacked me for refusing a ride. Had he beaten me I am sure the news would say how he was 'provoked by a troublesome farang daring to refuse excellent motorbike service a true insult to Thai people'.

In developed countries like Australia; when a foreign person is attacked, it makes the news and we all condemn the racism. We call racist thugs "bogans" it means a low class person with no brains and no class. If you say the wrong thing to a bogan he will fly off into a rage and kill people with one punch. We jail them for 20 years !

1 hour ago, Phuketboy said:

Somewhat wrong.  One needs to be an Australian citizen in order to get an Australian passport.  The minute they have citizenship they ARE considered Australian.  

 black man born and raised is still Australian.  Sudanese man spends 15 seconds getting a passport is still Sudanese. Australian citizenship comes in cereal packet these days. 

35 minutes ago, Naam said:

you mean the 318 million people who think they are  US-Americans are not?

We're European but Europe doesn't want us for a long time. If we call ourselves European the Europeans say "no you are not" if we call ourselves Australian the low iq people say "hero deep teh muh aboriginies" okay. Let's not define any nation. Okay let's make up a nation for those in Australia with no nation. Let's call them : Australian. Aboriginies had no concept of Australia, which is a western invention, they had their own unique nations.  So much racism..

1 hour ago, BasalBanality said:

One wonders if there is an equivalent dreamtime story that is share amongst the Aboriginals.

 

It's called invasion day. 

6 hours ago, thaifan01 said:

Theres a lot behind the smile in Thailand for sure, but no thais does this kind of shit if they aint on drugs or is mentally ill. Probably on drugs, lets hope she never get near a kid anymore and get locked up for a long time! 

 

Thailand is the wild west. 

1 minute ago, khunOo said:

On my holiday to a foreign country I would not read Thaivisa by keyboard warriors and keyboard Sherlocks.

Have you been there and witnessed the events?

Generalizations, hearsay, histeria is what this thread has become.

3.), 4.) 5.) know it all, superiority complex

Peace!

 

 

You view everything through the lense of what race is superior. That is not right, no race is superior. I understand you are angry because farangs have more money, but we are not your enemy. We don't think we are superior, we don't think badly of Thai people, it is all in your head.

2 minutes ago, khunOo said:

Not true. Tourism and immigration have increased. There are many more 'know it all' foreigners who believe they are superior to local population, act like they own everything and can do whatever they want.

Respect, learning local culture goes a long way. Due to social media, everyone read about it more often than 10 years ago and think the numbers are spiking.

 

There are many ways to avoid escalation in a situation. Few minutes more in traffic, a scratch on a vehicle does not worth fighting for.

Smart people walk away from trouble, even if they feel/know they are right.

 

If someone see drunks or a group of people, what is the point to stop and start arguing with them? Humans can learn from past and others experinces  and there is always a choice. 

Fight or flight even among animals. Survival is more important, then becoming a dead or handicapped hero. We can not control others action, but can control ours.

 

 4 against 1 or  a tall 100 kg person against a 60 kg, short person fight is wrong both ways. 

People regardless of nationalities and races should be held liable for their actions. BTW: There are no excuses for kicking repeatedly an unconscious person.

 

 

 

1) I am on a holiday. I am not Thai. Thai is not my concern.

2) Who asks who is better ? I don't care if I am a better or you are better : again - I come for a holiday. This is not a contest. 

3) Give me a break ! 60 year old men don't go around starting battles. Most have bad arms, bad shoulders, couldn't fight if they wanted.

4) Thai would not DARE fight real farang warriors, farang fighters. If a group of 12 rugby players go out drinking no one will start fights with them. 

5) Farang generally don't fight. The one's that do are very, very tough. Maybe 188 to 198 cm, 100-120kgs, very big long arms, probably take steroids. Always have groups of friends. DO you want to fight them ? I don't. They would crush me. This is why when I hear stories about "Violent farangs" I laugh because I know that you have no idea what you are talking about. You are just beating up an old man or a nerd, not a "thug" farang.  What would you think if a group of white youths beat up a 7/11 cashier ? Because that is basically what these Thai thugs are doing.

Thai women are usually friendly though. . I like Thai ladies :)

3 minutes ago, Cranky said:

And you've met all of them I assume.  What a dick of a comment.

It's typical of Australian ignorance and lack of numeracy, you need significant capital to live in Thailand full time. I'd say at least $1 million AUD.

The main difference, at this stage of my life, between a Thai woman and an Australian women is that a Thai woman will be relatively upfront about the costs and will uphold her end of the bargain. While an Australian woman is full of feminism and entitlement. The cost will never be acknowledged, let alone be upfront and she will consider her side of the bargain to be "nothing" because expecting something in return would be "Sexist". If I had money and power, absolutely no frigging way would I pick an Australian woman.Don't knock Thailand. There are lots of miserable loser Australians with Australian girlfriends who can't afford to visit Thailand. 

52 minutes ago, Mad mick said:

its a terrible thing but you are right its a cross section of muslims indians farangs and thais obtain the girls setvices its bloody sad , you only have to look at the inactive police jobs police both on soi 4 and 3 POLICE SIT THEIR ALL NIGHT AND DO NOTHING  all the way up to soi 7 ++ sukhumvit side of soi 3 now you know who runs that side of the road !!! m- - l- m area u can see the girls all day and night half the money they make goes to the crime syndicate with thai backing all day and every night of the week African,  Arabs , Russians +++ i know one young african girl who was brought into work as sex prostitution nice girl in many ways lured in young ' but caught in a web she cant get out'  they control them

I have sat had coffee with her and listen to her story " told me many things , and this bloke is not an Aussie ' he's sudanese immigrant with a passport who under aussie law as it stands now can loses his rights to remain in Australia and sent back to the country of origin one way to weed the shit out " and majority are good people '  Aussie governments who ever is in power do nothing " never deport them , let loose again to commit the same crimes over and over , some are so horrific they edit the details , rapes , murder , drugs , fight with isis , when they come back its all ok we forgive , no prison  and start the process all over again , if they only enforced our laws deport them  , " Only one thing they all fear is sending them back to their country of origin "...or for this guy life imprisonment  bangkok hilton . but some do gooder or stupid human rights lawyer will get them off here in aussie hes had hard life this or that " so fn what does not mean you destroy innocent peoples lives here, Australia needs to enforce 3 strikes and you're out rest of your life in prison same as america , if you are born in Aussie life in prison forever "  if from another country when prison terms is up on 1st serious offence deported + citizenship revoked " have the power but do , some of these people dont care about human rights thai jaunta dont, but crikey that stupid thai pm running around closing bar's , but this human trafficking is in front of him but he's fn blind unless it's a country singer that does to many pelvic thrusts he notices that " ' it's rife and in front of him on the streets of bangkok . soi 3 is RAR for isis grace hotel basement where the goats are , Bangkok is a haven for sexual human rights traffic ,  " too much of what : bangkok is flooded with this epidemic ""

Multiculturalism. Can't admit that some races of people commit crimes. Can't deport, or rich lefties from rich suburbs will complain to government. Funny, these people never seen any crime, hardly ever see anyone other than rich middle class Australians. 

5 hours ago, Thechook said:

So he is a Sudanese who just has an Australian passport.  Simply having a passport doesn't actually make you an Aussie. Many get the passport and leave the country.  Probably came as a so called Refugee,  fast tracked citizenship then abandoned Australia.  An Aussie passport opens up more doors than a Sudanese one.

Wow. So multicultural ! I bet he is a true feminist. 

I shall explain a little bit more clearly. Not all Thai people are a certain way, all people are different. However, I think there are certain patterns among certain people and the way we are educated influences how we act. I don't think there is a problem with Thailand. Thailand is a great place. They should keep Thailand Thai and protect it from western influences. Nationalism is a quality and I admire the Thai for their fierce nationalism. I had hoped that western people would have similar strength but we don't and we should not take this out on the Thai in attempting to brow beat them into following our western multiculturalisms. 

The problem is with western people and our expectations of the rest of the world. We are taught from a very, very young age that race does not matter, that all people are equal. Well, this is true; but is not common practice around the world. The west is living in denial. We have embraced this feminist multiculturalism anti nationalist attitude insanity to cult like proportions. We need to accept that the reality of the world does not fit our Utopian vision. There are very clear, very real racial divisions in the world, most Asian cultures have at least a somewhat racist view of western people. Some see us as dirty monkeys. That's fine, it is their country and we really have no right to visit; it is a privilege which they kindly allow. The issue I have with nationalism is in acting on these principles by beating people to death or attacking them violently. You either want tourists; or you don't. If you accept tourists you have an obligation to ensure they are kept safe from racial violence. If I invite someone into my house I don't beat them up if they dislike my tea. 

And if you want to say it is because western men get drunk and have sex with girls... who are you kidding ? Asian men do it too. They do it much, much better than we do. GoGo clubs in Pattaya are full of very handsome young Asian men. In the west such a large group of handsome young men attending such a brothel together would be unthinkable.  These young Asian men seem to be treating it as a bonding exercise. The girls seem to love them; yet no one judges them ! But if a white person does it then they're disgusting sexpat... This is a double standard, which I suspect is to manipulate us through our feminist system, but whatever, your country. I don't care. Just don't use it as an excuse to beat people up. Don't decide that all white people are disgusting monkeys therefore beating them up is okay . That kind of racism is not healthy. It is just wrong. Protecting your culture and way of life is admirable but once you start hurting people out of cruelty, you lose me. 

43 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Ridiculous generalisations don't really offer much, other than providing an provocative, but ill-considered, rant! 

My feelings are provocative? I did say "some" obviously there are many good Thai people. 

30 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Spot on. In my experience there is a general scepticism about us as they associate most ferangs with wealth. I don't personally spend too much time in the main tourist hangouts and find the locals far better once they get to know you. This perception that we all come here, get pissed and take their women is more banged around by ferangs who hangout in these places than anyone else.


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Their women ? Women are their own. 

42 minutes ago, steven100 said:

well it is what it is I'm afraid.  My point being that the most farang the Thais see are mostly drunk and disorderly, misbehaving and swearing and they feel the farang has no respect for Thailand or it's culture and they only come here to get drunk and get girls.

Farang are friendly as <deleted>, here to have fun.  Thai see farangs as second class people who are merely tolerated so if a farang step one step out of line then the Thai will sometimes murder them or make them pay. I have seen a Thai be so rude and incompetent at their job but if a farang says "hey hurry up" omg; they want to kill the farang. Delusional old people talk about culture and being polite to Thai... I  how many countries is it the customers dirty to charm the business ?  Where else will you be killed by a tourism operator for a wrong word ? Where else do you have to tip-toe around the locals ? Here you can be murdered for arguing with a worker in a tourist area. All off these excuses about "drunk farang" or "rude farang" are proving my point above.  Just because you don't like someone or they're drunk doesn't mean you can kill them it is the reason farang are seen as second class - a Thai has the right to disagree but a farang dies not.  You better be a good little farang and spend your money and do as we say or else. What ? Thai never drink ? Thai always perfect ? Sorry to those who have invested so much here, but it's just race hate. All off this shows me how much of a delusion we live in in the west believing that different cultures are as accepting of us as we are of them. 

2 hours ago, bheard said:

 

There's a lot of rubbish here about fighting fair or not etc. Thai culture is not the same as farang culture. You want to live here then accept that "fair" in farang is not "fair" in Thai. It's different!
And talking of "fair". What will those people talking "fair" be saying the about the US (pop 325m) in relation to a fight with N.Korea (pop 24m)? (Not that I support that idiot, he should be exterminated).

 

Not about fair. It's about not murdering old men. Race hate crime. 

8 minutes ago, Happy enough said:

for gods sake. I don't know what to say. what part of Thailand are you staying? seriously.

Sorry. I used sloppy language. Not all Thai people hate foreigners. What is more annoying is the delusional old farts who deny reality.  I don't care if the Thai equivalent of a one nation/dpk/brexit voter hates me. It just seems this attitude is more prevelant in thailand than it should be.  

1 hour ago, Happy enough said:

really????? 5555. you my friend are exactly why I log onto this forum. what on earth are you saying to make them hate you?

They hate us with their eyes.   Maybe Thailand invade Australia one day. If you can't see the Thai' s hate; you have atleast mild autism. 

42 minutes ago, Eli1 said:

They hate you because they are jealous of what we've got compared to what they have and that's a fact I was riding my bike once in jomtien pulled up at a set of lights and there was this thai guy wearing a t-shirt and on the back it said tourists go home. Yes sure there is a lot of people that like us but a lot hate us to and that's fair enough there's a lot up of idiot that are attracted to Thailand.

Sad. They should improve Thailand then. 

11 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

South Korea is not much better.  It is not uncommon for foreigners to be spat at in the street.  Dating a Korean girl in Korea is not easy!   Thailand is far friendlier, both from a government/visa perspective and from most of the locals.

True. But thai do hate us. For me it has been tiring. I don't know why they hate us; we only come for a holiday and give them money.

9 minutes ago, chrisinth said:

Who followed who into the 7-11? Did the foreigner follow the Thais or the other way round? Was the foreigner with the Thais from the start and it was an in-house dispute?

 

Was the victim's bike still at the scene? If not then it would be probable that he recovered enough to drive away after the incident?

 

All speculation of course but find the answer to the above and it will likely show who kicked it off.

 

And just for clarity, regardless of who's fault it was it does not justify the stamping of a victim who has no defense. In fact it does not justify stamping period.

Who cares. You don't kick unconscious in head if you don't want to kill him. If thai are jealous that falang have money.. let's see tourism without foreign money. You only see the well off foreigner come here. Lots of poor farang.

12 hours ago, jenifer d said:

 

but piss off southerners, especially if you're a hot-headed or ill-advised/inebriatred tourist- and it is ON!!!

I guess it is a cultural difference.  In the west youth respect the elderly to a degree and bashing them is seen as a horrible crime.

3 hours ago, BasalBanality said:

Whilst some other races tend to waddle into conflicts with apparent supremacy without understanding their opponents?

 

Sun Tzu is a decent read.

Because they are fighting fat old western tourists.

8 minutes ago, VegasExpat said:

Always remember my Golden Rule when in Thailand.  "NEVER get into a confrontation with a Thai, just smile and walk away"

Agreed. Remember we go back to our happy lives in Australia, UK or USA and these bullies are stuck in low paying job in horrible living conditions, their punishment is their life. We make more in 1 month than some of these bully boy make in 1 year. Just ignore them as you would ignore the lower class back home. I don't believe these bullies represent all Thai people at all.