Abmong

This would be different if the gf came from money. BiB tends to be less lazy if the victim's family knew their superior or knew someone the superiors don't want to disappoint.

WTF 500Baht? Should be x10 that.

I can see the frustration of the driver, but trying to force her into taking the ride is silly, not to mention kidnappy.

There should be a rule like when you order stuff online, a cancellation period before item ships.

So maybe customer should be allowed to cancel with no charge if cancelled within 5mins of calling for the taxi.

If after that the customer should pay half fares to cancel.

I'm just wondering how the "accident" happened. Who did the gun belong to, was Mrs Su cleaning it and it went off or was it fired in an arguement and she didn't really mean to kill Mrs Phra.

Still stand by my original theory. If the forensics is correct. Mrs Su shot Mrs Phra then continued to live in the house for two more days before committing suicide with the same weapon.

The fact that Mrs Phra was in unnderwear speaks of out-of-work relationship going on here. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't be walking around in underwear with my employee in my house.

47 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

According to Police Colonel Kampnanat Na Wichai of Hua Hin Police, Mrs. Phat had been deceased for approximately seven days, discovered wearing only underwear, while Mrs. Su appeared to have died five days prior, dressed in what seemed to be sleepwear.

Other items found at the scene included two urns containing ashes, a will, and a suicide note believed to be from Mrs. Su.

The suicide note suggests the incident was an accidental discharge of the firearm, leading to Mrs. Phat’s death and a panicked response from Mrs. Su.

So suspected Manslaughter/Suicide then.

Interesting that they were both in underwear/sleepwear. Just spitballing, but it looks like Mrs. Phat was having an improper "workplace" relationship with her secretary Mrs. Su

Looks like he'll be spending some time at his majesty's pleasure and then hopefully get deported to spend some more time at his other majesty's pleasure 😁

12 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

'whataboutsim'....   I think you are missing the point of the comments.... 

 

No one is condoning the attack, everyone is condemning the behaviour of the swiss attacker. 

 

BUT.... what is being brought into question is the the measure of equality in the charges and penalties...   It seems to be the more 'experienced forum members who've clearly been here a long time and are cynical of dual-penalties....

 

....and perhaps rightly so... If this were a Thai guy who attacked the woman, what type of charges and penalty would expect to see ??

 

Do any of us expect the Swiss Man's charges and penalty to be the same ???? 

 

I hope they throw the book at him.... and my cynicism suggests they will, but if it were a Thai guy the outrage would be less, the media coverage a lot less.... and quite likely the penalty rather paltry.....

 

 

 

 

I would expect the Thai person to be thrown in prison, but it depends on the wealth of the attacker. If it's a poor Thai they might even get harsher punishment with longer lockup time, but if they're wealthy they can afford better lawyer and might get off lighter. That's just the realities of adversarial justice systems. With a foreign convict, again it depends on the wealth, but theres the added dimension of deportation, but that's true of any crime commited by non-natives in countries not their own. As for the media outrage part, it depends if the media picked it up to begin with, Thai are some of the most active on their social media so I would expect outrage, but it would be directed more at the individual since there's no option to deport.

7 minutes ago, Negita43 said:

Actually he did.

To Rap To hit sharply and swiftly; strike.

Misquoted me, I never said that. Someone else's comment

45 minutes ago, Mr Dome said:

Absolutely shocking. This should have some serious consequences.

 

Also, why do I keep seeing this about Western retirees in Thailand? What makes them so aggressive there?

Not sure if it applies here, or if the guy is just having a mental break, and/or on something or is generally psychotic. There's a rise in retiree crimes commited out of loneliness and want for attention.

Maybe he's one such case, maybe he arrived in Thailand thinking he would find companionship and didn't, which led to mental health deterioration, commiting crime might be a cry for help and a ticket back home for family or just his own countrymen to have to interact with him.

11 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Let's hope the Thai woman who hit and run killed a 73 year old Swiss tourist in Pattaya last night gets similar attention.

11 hours ago, ezzra said:

I think there was enough and much more that have been said about this subject, yes, this guy is an a-hole and

by now he got or will get what he deserves, but not like he murdered or rapped someone,

not as if the locals are white doves in their treatments of their fellow Thais, so ok, the message was clear

and everyone learned a lot from it... 

What is with all this Whataboutisms? One crime doesn't have to do with the other. Man did vile crime, he should face the consequences and do hard time and deported.

And what's the point of the end comment? I don't follow the logic. Every country has people who mistreat people, that's not special license for immigrants/visitors or anyone to misbehave.

What's going on with these Swiss men recently... Is there a shortage or did something get into their chocolate?

If Thailand really must have subs, better to do a deal with S.Korea or Japan for their diesel-electric subs.

Buying submarines from the Chinese when the Chinese are the most likely belligerent force in the South China Sea isn't a great idea anyway. Using the engine issue as the excuse to back out of the deal is the best move.

On 3/7/2022 at 2:02 PM, Guderian said:

Why does it make this sound like the cops were really, really reluctant to use non-lethal force on a violent madman? Did they think that trying to ask him nicely to stop stabbing the Jap guy was a better idea? Or were they going to threaten him with a crime scene re-enactment, at which everyone would point accusingly at the knife-wielding Thai? That'll put the fear of God into any armed crazy <shakeshead>

Because unlike in the US, most cops don't like to use any kind of weapon, lethal of not and would rather talk suspects down.

On 3/3/2022 at 12:14 PM, Tropicalevo said:

Meanwhile, just over the border in Burma.........

Violence in abundance.

Well that was vetoed by Russia and China at the UNSC meeting, Thailand isn't on  the UNSC

And for whatever reason UN haven't seen fit to call a general assembly on the Myanmar civil war,

i.e. no one really cares what's happening in Myanmar.

20 hours ago, paul1804 said:

No it is the ignorance of some tourists and many Thais who have little care for their environment, whether it be lack of education or otherwise many Thais care less for their own environment than the average western visitor,  believe me I see this every day on the land and the beaches which affects the sea. 

It's their country, as a visitor you need to be on your best behaviour as you would expect of visitors to your home.

Look, but don't touch! Plenty of other things you can look at and touch in Thailand ????

From the aftermath photo of where the cars ended up, the Madza seems to be on the correct side of the road, while the Ford's rear looks to have swung out to the left after collision, leading me to thing the Ford was on the right-side lane where it shouldn't have been, but then again I'm no crash forensics expert. It could have been that both were driving too much in the middle by the looks of it.

On 2/4/2022 at 8:01 AM, EVENKEEL said:

Any bet takers on who cut the corner?

Lets not jump to conclusions, could have easily been the Nord who forgot and drove on the wrong (right) side of the road. Or got distracted by the wife doing something.

22 hours ago, Oxx said:

Are they zebra crossings or pelican crossings?

Either way, they're also known as Suicide lanes in Thailand.

If the numbers of fatal cases are comparable to Dengue and Influenza then there's not much cause for alarm. Just have to accept it's become an endemic virus because the world as a whole failed to mount a unified effort to eradicate it. Maybe we can eradicate it one day if/when enough people get vaccinated like we did with Smallpox and Polio.

Keeping track and publishing numbers can have a negative effect on people's mental health, especially in those already suffering from anxieties.

Just now, placeholder said:

vaccinated with what?

That will depend on whatever arrangements the US cares to make.

17 hours ago, placeholder said:

I don't know what countries you're referring to, but I've been to the US embassy a few times and it didn't look like anyone was slacking off to me. I did get prompt, polite and consistently intelligent service and assistance from the employees. Same experience with the consulate.Just maybe, they don't have the time  or training to turn themselves into a health clinic.

Or they could just arrange the payment for their citizens to get vaccinated in a private hospital.

So is this only happening in Pattaya or is it more widespread?. If it's only in Pattaya one wonders if it isn't a targetted hit on where a lot of Farange live...