Moon37

Ask for you to take a picture of her Thai ID to guarantee she doesn’t repeat


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Thank You,  That is an excellent idea and seems very discreet such that it wouldn't surface until or if the younger brother goes at it again.

Best Regards,

Moon

BC.   Very good unknowns to find out for sure.  I found the attached scanned page addressing home ownership and even foreigners, but can't remember where I found it online.   I agree about the building permit because of the delta on the value (Pic of shack being replaced attached), but family and builder claimed it was not needed (but failed to mention the taxable issue).  The new house now fits in with the neighborhood..  And your best point about future loans is the most important.   I don't see anyway to avoid that other than trusting their daughter aka my wife

But it’s true from my angle. I get nothing as it’s a gift and all paid for before wedding in Dec. There’s a younger brother who reportedly put them in the land debt that I paid and transferred to her. He’s the impetus for the family trusts her. But back to your comment, it would be used in Thai vs English!


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I'm aware of most all possible deceptions having had Thai relationships since '79.  And I'm not concerned about any financial loss etc.   Situation:  Engaged after 4 years together.  Family in Isan live in an unbelievably shack.  Before proposing, I, without any significant external influence offered to build a simple home as a sign of my intent with their daughter.  Simple 3 bdrm, 2 bath large LR/DR and patio (108 SQM) with a 1.2M limit.  The issue was my tilac regularly sending THB home for Mom, Dad, Brother, (his 3 daughters) and one nephew.  Even though she works full time in a white collar job (ie.  doesn't know how to hold a pool cue stick) my monthly stipend has been shared which is no surprise.  So when I inquired why, I was informed about the family hardships and debts etc.  The debts were for loans on property, both house and field.  My additional motivation was for my tilac to have control over the property if I'm going to build a home on it.  (all her siblings and parents concurred) (BTW, I don't  want a yellow book or even my name on the house itself - just hers - and before marriage).  I paid off the loans and witnessed the land deeds (Chanote) transferred to her name.  Also offered the siblings to pitch in the debts that they got "mom" to sign and retain the relative portion of the properties  (even with a year to complete).  In the beginning I was told that there was no need for a New Building Permit because the property is outside a certain area and it is only replacing the existing shack.  This week I inquired about the yellow book which I don't need because I use my condo rental agreement as proof of residency.  It then came out that the building permit wasn't needed when the shack was built and then changed to it's is still in her father's name.   Research appears that doesn't matter because the land owner trumps the house.   I want everything to be in my kuman's name and not have to worry about this in the future.  I read that I could even have the home ownership in my name as I've documented all funds transfers and payments to the contractors etc.  But, I don't want to look like I'm taking advantage of them and their estate.   So now, I'm pushing hard to get her dad to transfer the building permit/ownership to her.   Does it make a difference?  Am I pushing a rope? Value added comments appreciated.  Thanks ,Moon  (The Concrete pylon in center of living room guy = added  some pics that the pole in the living room didn't really matter that much)

YES, 100% Proven .   Hang som e used CD's from the top of your balcony.  The wind and breeze cause the CDs to constantly move and reflect light randomly.  The birds are uncomfortable and never stay.  For 3+ years, I haven't had or seen a single bird on my balcony.  I used the hooks that hung the ugly netting and some wire to them and success.  View is unobstructed and it's kind of stylish.   

On ‎5‎/‎28‎/‎2018 at 12:18 PM, MaeJoMTB said:

Entirely normal, most Thais see 'discussion' as 'confrontation'. It isn't in their culture so don't try to do it.

You're the man, your word is law, her duty is to serve you. No discussion, end of. 

 

 

I'm glad I read this set of posts. Especially, "discussion is seen as confrontation".  Even though I've thought I'm pretty savvy about Thai women, having lived and dated with them since 1978 (less a western 26 year marriage), I never stop learning.  This one phrase pretty much sums it all up. As a westerner, I like to wrap things up,  debrief, come to a consensus, and have lessons learned.   This has not worked for me and now this short and succinct phrase pulls a lot of the mystery together.  I'm going to copy it and try to read and remember it daily...Thanks!   Moon

On ‎5‎/‎25‎/‎2018 at 7:57 PM, Rdrokit said:

Please post a photo of the finished design. Would like to see what you come up with.

Rd,  The contractor refuses to accept culpability and has even stated to charge 5K THB to make it round.  We've explored so many options with no help from the contractor . So now we're going with the concept that a university once used to lay down the pathways between campus buildings.  They delayed laying down the pathways and waited for a couple of months to see where the students wore our paths on the lawns.  Then they built the pathways there.  I believe that no one really understands what if any kind of impact this pillar has. And it seems, in true Thai fashion, that I am the only one who cares.  But I will share the eventual result  after the in-laws have moved in.  Best and Thanks, Moon

Thanks all.  We're going one step at a time.  FIrst we''ll have it made round.  Get a sense of it's impact and see if either the duplicate column to semi-divide up the room or build around the pole.  Best, Moon

5 minutes ago, Fruit Trader said:

Maybe show builder some pix.

 

Shed 35M x 8.5 M tiled roof

 

 

House roof load on truss beams might be the fix for you

 

Thanks, I saw the truss construction afterwards, but I'm way too late behind the power curve.  Moon

23 minutes ago, Farangdanny said:

How interesting. I built a house 11 years ago. The lounge/Dining area is 10 mts x 8mts and the master bedroom above is 8mts X 6.5 mts . No pillars in the middle.  It's still standing !Maybe you should complain to the architect !

Hmm, I guess I should challenge the 5 meter span limit.  I'll try, thanks, Moon

9 minutes ago, yankee99 said:

Can't they just use a engineered beam and remove the support 

Thanks for the good idea. But, aside from their apology due to communication (of which they never brought it up in either language), I don't think they would do it even if I paid extra.  Just to get them to make the "free kitchen counter" longer was like an insult to them and they went ahead and started building it to their with the stove by the window and the sink against the  wall design regardless.  I finally raised enough of a stink, the acquiesced, tore down what was built (with the left over bricks and concrete) and charged me 2500 for the  extra 0.5m plus dismantling.  Thanks again.

5 hours ago, Rdrokit said:

Yea, investing in a little more steel in the roofing supports could have gotten rid of the post but at this point make it a round Roman column and put one on the other side of the room to make it look like decorative columns.

RD,  Hadn't followed that thought until now.  It has a good point of breaking up such a large room (with nil furniture) into the Living Room and Dining room and not having a complete wall.   Thanks, Moon

5 hours ago, Monomial said:

Assuming that tearing up the foundation and starting all over again is not an option, just have them make it a round pole rather than square. It will minimize the profile in the room. They do this buy purchasing a round, cardboard column and just tearing the cardboard off after the cement has set.

 

Then, if you really want, you can have the finishing guy sculpt some artistic style to it. Maybe add a small, 6cm ledge around the pole where you can sit figurines or something. If you arrange the furniture properly you can make it look like it belongs in the room.

 

 

Mono,  That's a good path to follow. I've seen it on line with an nice bench closer to the wall. It's in front of two bedrooms and a pathway so worth plotting out.  Thanks, Moon.

4 hours ago, rumak said:

if its for "my wife's parents".........did they complain ?   I don't think so.    As others have suggested, try to incorporate it into something .   

Thanks, You're right.  They are so overwhelmed they would not even be using the house and will probably just hang out on the patio.  But, I do have a sense of pride of authorship and want it as if I would be building it (without the expense I would put in).    Thanks, Moon

Yes, I did not pay attention, nor was I aware of the 5 meter span limit for ceiling beams.  Live in BKK, building a home for my wife's parents in Udon.  Started out as an 8 x 12 (96 SQM).  Got greedy and added one meter for a 9 x 12.  After going through three contractors, found one who was fair and met our bogey.  They reviewed my design and did not bring it up at any time.  The only indication was a small square on the overall floor plan and some 3d pics where the concrete beam was barely noticeable.  And another clue was the pillar support plan, which I thought only supported the base.  (Yes, I'm not construction savy)    We are 6 weeks into the build and when the walls started going up it was obvious and shocking.  It was only then I was informed of the Basic Builder 101 rule of the 5 meter limit. We have a 6 x 5.5 M Living / dining room and the  "telephone pole"  is two meters and three meters into the center of the room.   I've searched on-line, but those are all "show room" type solutions.  When you look at the floor plan, the pole just looks like a guide line intersection.  Aside from deserved YGBSM remarks, any ideas are appreciated.  Thanks Moon37

Yes,  After 10 months, my 2017 Honda PCX 150 all of a sudden, has the same problem.  At first I thought the alarm had been tripped and being unheard, drained the battery, but the mechanic determined it was probably my inconsistent use of the keyless fob (on vs off).   But, still right away, the battery died again.  Took battery to shop and confirmed it was good.  Trying again.  Will turn off "idle-stop" even though I used it the first 10 months.   

Update on my Honda PCX 150 Shudder.  This time I took it to a real dealer (with the air conditioned showroom and big windows) versus the Street shop version with an office and semi-garage.  The mechanic immediately acknowledged the shudder at slow speed from 1-15 Kph.  He said it was "dust" between the Clutch plates and that this is a regular with all Automatic motorcycles in the City (Bangkok).  He got in there and somehow used an air compressor to blow out the dust from the clutch plates faces'   And then the problem was 90% fixed.  In that now that I had the problem, I have paid far too much attention to it and think, they should have taken the clutch plates off and scrubbed them as it feels as if there is just a little bit of shudder, but not near as what it was.    

Thanks to all that pitched in with their experiences and solutions.  Best, Pat "Moon"Mullen

I have a 2017 Honda PCX 150 with only 750 km.  I usually only drive in downtown traffic for short errands to MBK or Pantip.   Only in the last month have I noticed a shudder when advancing from a slow speed in traffic. I thought it was more of a throttle sputter, but have seen the forum threads all indicating a clutch and/or pully belt problem.  I took it to the Honda Shop for the first Oil Change and Check Up on Monday and the mechanic said there wasn't any problem (Not being good enough in Thai, rather than argue it, I just left and am looking for a solid Honda Dealer Maintenance with English (Yes, I know that's a lot to ask.).  I''m near the Emporium, but distance within 30-45 min no problem.  Any similar experience?   Thanks in advance.  Pat "Moon" Mullen