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  1. If only NASA could do some sort of climatological study of the Asian area to understand the local weather patterns better. dry.png

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    a rough translation....

    1. B: News News, The story about NASA cause a rift in relationship between Thailand and American people

    2. A: How?

    B: Thai MP said.....

    3. B: ...NASA can warn about servere flooding before it happen. The Florida's people believed him, now the whole town are under the flood...

    the cartoon was 2 month ago btw

  2. Where the petition will rot? Well, just for the sake of argument alone, let's forget that it's illegal and won't be send to HM ever.....

    Now we have around 3.6 millions signatures that need to be check if they are genuine or not before the Gov can move forward to the next procedure. Let's do the simple math, shall we? :)

    For all the hassle that need to verified that the signatures are really genuine since it's suppose the be present to HM no mistake is allowed. So... with all the man power we can spare we can do about 50 signatures per day (we need to verified the man who signed do existed, sign the petition on their own will.. yada..yada..)

    So the time need to finish this verification process will takes.... 3,600,000/50 = 72,000 days :D

    One week has 5 work days and one month has 4 weeks so one month = 4*5 = 20 days

    So one year has 240 work days.... estimated time the verification process to be complete are..... 72,000/240 = 300 years :D

    So..... all the red shirts please sit tight and be a good boy/girl. it will be done soon.... :D

    Now I guess someone can tell me where the petition will rot, no? :D

  3. * Humour of it is a bit lost on me, but the double take after a mention of 500 baht cash in one of Thaksin's video phone-in's before it all hit the fan is a subject of a few laughs. Here's a
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    /edit - on second watch the video is ace! Would love somebody to confirm the translation :D

    I've asked for confirmations and explanations on the language forum at http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Confirmation...hi-t257245.html , but the interpretation seems pukka.

    Well, I'd believe he's talking about 500 Baht for older ppl too but if you watch the one without subtitle and look at his facial expression after he said those words . I'll say it's Freudian slip :o

    Priceless......

  4. Has anyone noticed that D-Station's website has now gone offline too? Either censored or hijacked. So much for free speech in Thailand.

    Hellooooooo? I guess someone doesn't notice that we are under the state of emergency law now which means some of your normal rights are forfeited.

    A bit slow on the uptake do you? :o

  5. Well, I "love" this part:
    ....Thaksin Shinawatra's announcement of his political comeback....

    so far about "quitting" politics... Chavalit becomes a monk...to get rid of his bad karma...

    but this hit's the ceiling with bitter irony:

    Thaksin likes to claim he is Nelson Mandela....

    How many nutters are around?

    mecomic21251ny3.jpg :o

  6. DFA EXEC SAYS

    RP to 'politely' send back Thaksin

    http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/...nd-back-Thaksin

    By Christian V. Esguerra

    Philippine Daily Inquirer

    First Posted 21:05:00 11/09/2008

    MANILA, Philippines--Filipinos marvelled at how Thaksin Shinawatra turned around Thailand's drooping economy when he spoke at a business gathering in Manila five years ago.

    This time, the ousted prime minister may find the Philippines' door closed to him should he decide to seek refuge here.

    Foreign Undersecretary Franklin Ebdalin said on Sunday the government would "politely" turn down any request for political refuge from the self-exiled Thai leader, citing Manila's "friendly" diplomatic relations with Bangkok.

    "If an applicant for a political asylum insists, the first thing the friendly country customarily does is to send him back to his home country," Ebdalin said in Filipino in a phone interview from Hong Kong.

    As of Sunday, Ebdalin said the Department of Foreign Affairs had not received "feelers" that Thaksin indeed wanted to seek haven in the Philippines, after reports reached Manila about his alleged plan to seek asylum here.

    "Of course, he wouldn't want to be embarrassed, that's why I don't think he would make such a request," Ebdalin said. "He's no ordinary figure. He's a former Prime Minister of Thailand."

    :o:D

  7. Dear Dr. Thaksin,

    It has been some time since we last spoke, but I felt the urge to write to you having seen your ‘open letter’ to your ‘friends’ in the international media, dated October 22nd, 2008.

    Given the fact that you chose not to face the various criminal and corruption charges against you in Thailand, and given that you are in the process of seeking asylum in the UK, I can understand why you wrote what you did. It’s a shame though, since, once again, you feel compelled to harm the country of your birth in order to protect and promote your own personal interests.

    It would have been so much better had you been more honest in your assessment of your predicament. Specifically related to the land procurement case in which you were found guilty of conflict of interest, we would have been interested to hear why it was that your legal team was caught and convicted of blatant attempts to bribe court officials. Furthermore, you are fully aware that the law you broke was the highest law of the land, being an infringement in a key article in the Constitution designed to penalize acts considered criminal on the part of those who hold political office. Indeed, it was a breach of both the 1997 constitution you love as well as the current 2007 constitution that was accepted in a nationwide referendum.

    You referred to the ruling against Khun Samak, your chosen heir, and portray the case as a ruling against the fact that he cooked on TV when you know full well that the actual crime was his breach of the Constitution barring those in office from holding paid employment. Your definition of ‘facts’ leaves a lot to be desired and I worry that you actually believe what you are saying.

    It is precisely because it is so difficult the world over to actually catch clever politicians with their hands in the till that we have laws against conflicts of interests – it is a reflection of our society’s desire for good governance, not dissimilar to codes of conducts in most leading corporations in the private sector.

    It may be true that there are the so-called elites who don’t like you, but I can assure you that there are plenty of grass-root members of the Thai population who are also not too keen on having leaders who cheat. You got away early in your political career with an ‘honest mistake’ when you failed to properly disclose your assets, but how many more of these ‘honest’ mistakes do you think the Thai people should allow you? You are once again charged with hiding assets even now, not least the money you used to buy Manchester City. After all, you no longer even try to pretend that it was not your own money that was used to buy the football club, even though you never disclosed, as was legally required, that you ever had any money overseas.

    I won’t go into details about your wife being convicted of tax fraud and the fact that the government you support is still doing every thing they can to distort the course of justice here in Thailand. Frankly, if you really wanted to present facts, you should provide these details yourself. You are right in saying that all Thais are concerned about the direction the country is taking, but I believe that the situation would be much improved if you were to leave us alone to clean up the mess you left us in.

    Korn Chatikavanij

    Member of Parliament

    source : http://www.matichon.co.th/news_detail.php?newsid=1224924179 :o

  8. There is the letter of the law and the spirit behind the law.

    So, according to the letter of the law, he was guilty.

    However, can one truly justify terminating a PM over cooking on a TV show, according to the spirit of the law?

    that the PM should not have a second job makes sense.

    But here the bigger issue is that he did not obey the constitution and worse he lied at the court that he did not get any money.

    Anyway as they all don't accept the spirit of the law they will reelect him.

    I actually can understand the PPP much better now for wanting to change the constitution. The constitution and this article in particular seems to be wrong or flawed at best.

    I mean surely presenting a cooking show cannot in any way be considered as a conflict of interest.

    Well, if they manage to change this constitution and revert back to the late constitution they loved so much it won't help them either.

    please take a look at article 208 from the late constitution. only different article number but the words are the same :D

    Well, does that mean the late constitution are no good either? :o Should we revert back to the first constitution since Thailand has democracy then? :D

    Nah, just add new article saying "PPP is above any constitution and can do no wrong" will be much much easier, all problems solved. :D

  9. He stepped outside and kissed the ground for the cameras. :D

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    A performance worthy of an Oscar nomination.

    Now I know why he kept repeating he feared for his life in the last few days.

    There was talk of missing firearms amongst reporters at the airport, a rumour surely planted by his team and broadcast by TITV or whatever it has become.

    The Thaksin soap continues by playing the sympathy card.

    Definitely, the kissing of the ground for camera is a performance that deserves nomination for Oscar.

    The two movies that can be attributed for nomination are:

    1) The Return of Al Capone.

    2) The Pope.

    or...

    3) No country of old Maew :o

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  10. Samak insists just one died in Oct 6 uprising

    I think in the next 5 years from now we might see something like...

    Thaksin insists just one died in War on drug (funny, but I think some of TV members will really believe this one :D )

    and

    Thaksin insists just one died in Tak Bai

    Did I see some pattern here? :o

  11. Cleansing democracy of socialism

    Crushing the Thai Left on the 6th Oct 1976 and the consequences for present day politics

    (Paper presented at the School of Oriental and African Studies, University of London, September 2001

    บทความนำเสนอที่ S.O.A.S. มหาวิทยาลัยลอนดอน กันยายน ๒๕๔๔)

    Assistant Professor Ji Giles Ungpakorn

    Faculty of Political Science, Chulalongkorn University,

    Bangkok 10330, Thailand.

    (Secretary of The 6th October 1976 Fact Finding Committee)

    E-mail: [email protected]

    Abstract

    On the morning of 6th October 1976, Thai uniformed police, alongside armed semi-fascist thugs, crushed the student movement in Thailand. This brutal state crime was supported, either directly or indirectly, by all sections of the Thai ruling elite. Their aim was not so much the crushing of the young parliamentary democracy, which had arisen after the mass popular uprising three years earlier, but the destruction of the growing socialist movement throughout the country. This was achieved in the long term also by the subsequent collapse of the stalinist Communist Party of Thailand. This destruction of the left came not only in organisational form, but also in terms of the present collective historical memory about the Thai left. The results of “cleansing democracy of socialism” can be seen in the present corrupt and money dominated system of Thai parliamentary politics. Yet, the impact of the Asian Economic Crisis and a whole new generation of people with little knowledge of the 1970s, means that socialism may yet creep back into Thai democracy. The Populist policies of the new Thai Ruk Thai government may be an indication of social pressure from below and the re-emergence of class-based politics.

    Crushing the Left in 1976

    The received wisdom in Thai society states that “socialism is an alien creed, not popular with Thais”. Yet there was a time when a significant proportion of the population openly supported socialist ideas. In the General Elections of January 1975, three left-wing parties, The Socialist Party of Thailand, The Socialist Front and New Force Party won a total of two and a half million votes or 14.4% of the total vote (Morrell & Samudavanija 1981; 265). In addition to this, the ideological influence of the illegal Communist Party of Thailand was particularly significant among young students, trade unionists and farmer-activists. In present day Thai politics all political parties are allied to capital and business and even the memory of 1970s radicalism seems to have been eradicated. How did this happen?

    In the early hours of 6th October 1976, Thai uniformed police, stationed in the grounds of the National Museum, next door to Thammasat University, destroyed a peaceful gathering of students and working people on the university campus under a hail of relentless automatic fire . At the same time a large gang of ultra-right-wing “informal forces”, known as the Village Scouts, Krating-Daeng and Nawapon, indulged in an orgy of violence and brutality towards anyone near the front entrance of the university. Students and their supporters were dragged out of the university and hung from the trees around Sanam Luang; others were burnt alive in front of the Ministry of “Justice” while the mob danced round the flames. Women and men, dead or alive, were subjected to the utmost degrading and violent behaviour. One woman had a piece of wood shoved up her vagina. Village Scouts dragged dead and dying students from the front of the campus and dumped them on the road, where they were finished-off. A young man plunged a sharp wooden spike into the corpses while a boy urinated over them. Not only did the state’s “forces of law and order” do nothing to halt this violence, some uniformed members of the police force were filmed cheering-on the crowd.

    From : http://www.2519.net/

    Full article here : http://www.2519.net/newweb/doc/englisharticle/clean.doc

    Photo gallery here : http://www.2519.net/newweb/gallery_new/show_main.php

    Ps. The victims want to forgive and forget so they didn't press charge or anything after that massacre. But it doesn't mean it's ok to twist the fact around :o

    Most of the key people who accounted for that massacre are gone.. with painful death I might add (mostly cancer and stuff) and a lot of student who survive that day still alive so it won't be easy to twist the fact. poor poor Samak.... :D

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