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What happens if Condominium Temperature Fever Check Result is too High?

Didn't happen to me yet. Never heard of anyone happening. Just good to be prepared just in case.

Denied entry? Cannot go to room that one is paying rent for?

Report to health authority? Resulting in a forced covid test? Resulting in forced hospitalization?

Reminder: there are sicknesses other than covid which can cause fever including flu and common cold.

In summary that would mean, get caught with a fewer once and get a forced hospitalization in result. Why isn't that happening? Most Thai's live in apartments where there's no temperature testing? People avoid getting caught because they want to avoid forced hospitalization? "Cheating" with paracetamol?

Is there any app (or website) where I can enter any arbitrary Thai word which would then show me which tone (middle, low, falling, high, rising) it is?

Even better would be if whole sentences could be pasted. The app would then add spaces between the words (helpful to learn reading) and represent the different words in different colors or otherwise clearly mark the tones.

On 11/18/2020 at 5:17 AM, onebir said:

Have you checked the major dictionary apps?

These aren't vocabulary trainers.

Is there any app (preferred) or website where one can enter a Thai word (in Thai script) which will then show which Thai tone (mai ek, ...) it is?

Word definitions:

For lack of a better term, a "Thai local bar" is a bar where around 1000 and more Thais go and where very Farangs and maybe a most 5 Farangs or so. Usually live music or electronic music or a mix. The type of bar where very few or no Thai prostitutes go. (Or at least not those focused on serving Farangs. I haven't recognized a huge Thai focused prostitute crowd in such Thai local bars yet.) Often people there speak very little English to even no English at all.

For completeness sake, the opposite of that, for lack of better term is "Farang mixed bar" is a place where lots of Farangs and Thais go. Most Thais there usually speak a lot English.

Question:

What are good Thai local bars in Pattaya?

What I need:

* Thai word

* Pronunciation

* Tone (mai ek, tho, tri, chattawa)

* English translation

* teach new words

* test existing words

* ask those words which I have difficulties to remember more often (mnemonic learning similar to duolingo / memrise)

helpful bonus but not required:

* Romanized Transcription

* memes

I was using https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.joba.readthaifun but it was sometimes showing the wrong tone (confirmed by multiple native Thai speakers).

The memrise app is really cool but some courses available for Thai either don't show tones (Romanized Transcription without tones) or also show the wrong tones.

Duolingo would be amazing but no Thai courses exist.

What are the risks and liabilities that can come from being the owner of a condominium?

The price is really cheap. I guess there might be a reason for that. The seller is a bank. There are different risks during purchase (such as buying leasehold, getting not buying property at all, or buying in someone else's name) but that's a different topic for a different place. Please let me know the risks after a successful purchase of a freehold condominium as a foreigner in Thailand. You might not be able to find a tenant obviously. Rental income might be low. Let's ignore that too. Re-sale might only be possible with a loss. I saw reports of difficulties getting money from re-sale out of the country. Let's ignore that too. More interesting, what am I missing?

What are the abilities of the condominium management to scam? Over charge foreigners with condominium management fee? Happening?

The condominium general meeting is might not be of any help either? Majority is Thai. As I've observed in other places, many owners do not participate in the condominium general meeting. Kinda similar to a democracy. Many people don't pay attention, observe, join any meetings and votes they are entitled to.

The condominium general meeting, if it's not a foreigner focused, good reputation condominium management speaking Thai with the majority of documents in Thai?

Condominium management going bankrupt or misappropriation of funds?

Does it happen that they claim "this and this pipe / cable / whatsoever is broken. To fix it costs 2 million THB. While in actuality repair is much cheaper. Just as a scheme to milk farangs. Happening in reality or imagination?

34 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

Hi, I did PM you a Guidance document on how to register on the IO TM-30 website allowing you to file your own TM-30 on-line (as well as those of any of the foreign guests staying at your place).

No need to visit local IO if doing so.

Thanks a lot. Could you please consider posting this (in a new forum thread) for wide discussion?

Do you think online reporting TM30 is more straight forward, has a higher chance of success than in person TM30 reporting?

When doing online reporting, one won't be able to acquire a TM30 paper receipt of notification?

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Note: TM30 compliance is ONLY checked when you visit your local IO for a service that requires your address data (e.g. an extension of stay, residence permit, etc.).  So, when you have guests staying at your place that will not visit the Immigration Office to apply for an extension of stay, there is no actual need to file a TM30 of them staying at your place.

...this I would like to be discussed.

Even if not checked, technically we wouldn't be in compliance?

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1. register on behalf of the owner (which can be yourself) > In that case you need to upload a scan of the house-book and a signed front-back copy of the owner's ID-card. 

Right, if house-book is provided, that might work. I can imagine cases where the owner does not have house-book handy, then promises to follow up with it soon, but never doing that. Therefore this method is probably not bulletproof.

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2. register as tenant > in that case a copy of the rental contract, a copy of your passport ID-page and (if possible) a copy of the house-book, can also be used.

This option is more interesting. This might even work with a non-cooperating owner?

Suppose it was a monthly airbnb booking. Would the printout of an airbnb booking without anything else (owner id card, house book, power of attorney) suffice to successfully file a TM30?

I am intending to permanently move to another province. Stay for 1-2 months, then move to another place to stay another 1-2 months.

1) If one manages to get a TM30 receipt of notification, does this suffice or could TM27 or TM28 still be demanded later by immigration?

2) If one manages to do a TM27 or TM28 report, one doesn't have to worry about the owner doing TM30 anymore?

https://pcec.club/TM.28-Reporting

3) TM28 for tenants is effectively no longer required but is it still possible to do it?

4) If owner will not do TM30 (pretend to understand but actually don't understand, lazy, don't care, don't take serious, whatsoever), can I do TM30 by myself without cooperation from the owner?

Quoting https://www.immigration.go.th/citizen_manual/guid_en13.pdf

"1. The house-master,the owner or the possessor of the residence,or the hotel manager where the alien ,receiving permission to stay temporary in the Kingdom has stayed, must notify the competent official at the Immigration Office located in the same area with that house,dwelling place or hotel,within 24 hours from the time of arrival of the alien concerned."

5) It lists the "possessor". Therefore I cannot say "TM30 is duty of owner, not my duty as tenant"?

6) I guess if the owner fails to do TM30 I should just move to another place that does it and then the problem is solved? As long as no visa extension is due, I don't have to worry about some owner skipping the TM30?

Not trying to be difficult here. I'll explain why I find this difficult. I once asked about TM28 in an immigration office but they didn't know that form and said we don't do that form here, we do TM30. Even had to show a photo of the TM28 form to even make clear what I mean. That was during a time before TM28 was "scrapped". That was because I already had the feeling that the owner would mess up TM30 as above and I was right about it.

And then that problem happened indeed during the time before TM30 was relaxed the owner. When I wanted to apply for a visa extension, immigration told me that TM30 was not done after re-entry and this needs to be resolved first. The owner of the condo unit did not do TM30 even though I always notified the owner when I re-entered Thailand. Always sent up to date entry stamps / arrival cards photos to that owner on line. The owner said thanks but the did not do anything about it. The fine wasn't for me. The receipt was in the name for the absent owner (in another city). The immigration officer then called the owner and explained it yet again. I had the option to either not pay the fine since it was the owner's fault, but then I couldn't get my visa extension. The other option was paying the fine and the asking the money back from the owner.

Not helpful is the language barrier. Even though not my task to do TM30, I explained this to the owner, had a Thai person call the owner and explain it again. Yet, the owner did not do it. Perhaps this is an issue of pretending to understand and the Thai keeping face culture.

I don't want to be dependent on the owner understanding and doing the TM30 requirement for my next visa extension. Somehow resolving this on my own in case any owner does not do it. I also want to avoid any fines and asking back any money from owners who fail to do TM30.

There is currently no quarantine for domestic travel for flights inside Thailand?

I have learned a lot Thai words using transliterated (Thai written in English phonetic letters). Auto autodidact. Never attended any Thai classes. Can now have most basic Thai conversation.

To learn more, I have now learned all Thai consonants and vowels. I can read easy words which already helps with understanding and pronunciation.

Words with Thai tone marks (mai ek, mai tho, ...) are simple. The other Thai tone rules rather overwhelming. This is what I mean:

I am stuck now. What would you recommend next?

Is it more easy/efficient to learn the tone rules or should I just keep learning vocabulary?

Many Thai people don't know the tone rules either. Obviously they still speak perfect. They just know every word with every tone and don't even think about it. Similar for my native language. While I certainly couldn't teach the rules of my native language I am yet perfectly capable of using all of these rules in practice.

That would speak for just learn more vocabulary, learn the right tone for each word and then after a while I also would develop an intuitive guessing the right tone by reading words?

Will there be another amnesty after October 31?

How many people are still on amnesty visa?

Example:

1) English word: new

2) Google translated Thai: ใหม่

3) Google translated phonetics: H̄ım̀

I want to learn the latter. The google translated phonetics. What is the name of this phonetics language?

Pretty sure in this case the ` in m̀ means falling tone but I shouldn't guess it.

Another example. The « in hot / ร้อนๆ / R̂xn« probably means repetition. But there are other symbols who's meaning I cannot guess. Therefore I am looking for some kind of list explaing these.

7 hours ago, robblok said:

I am not sure how well you follow the news of your own country but in my country its quite clear that there is a huge increase in people going to hospitals and dying. They had a shortage of IC beds at times. This happens all over Europe.

German public TV reports German hospitals are mind corona crisis sending home staff because hospitals are empty. Use google translate.

https://www.tagesschau.de/investigativ/ndr/krankenhaeuser-kurzarbeit-101.html

A citizen journalist goes into hospital and its empty. He posts footage on youtube but video gets deleted. Video about the deletion has English subtitles. Originally censored video had been uploaded to bitchute.

19 hours ago, StreetCowboy said:

I've not seen COVID-19 doctors denying the disease.

Very few deny viruses. But that's probably not the point to deny or not deny. The question is are the measures, the lockdown reasonable or hysteria.

Why you've never heard of any? There are plenty.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/12-experts-questioning-coronavirus-panic/5707532

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1157077-is-a-thai-professor-about-to-save-the-world-economy/

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1155354-could-coronavirus-not-be-as-bad-as-many-are-making-out/

Oh, and Sweden still didn't do a lockdown, and still didn't collapse.

Are covid visa extension letters still a thing or are these totally deprecated in favor of https://immigration.go.th/content/visa_auto_extension?

Any update?

8 hours ago, Tanoshi said:

There is a significant difference between someone on 'permission of stay' from a Visa entry, and someone on 'permission of stay' from an extension.

What's the difference?

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/opinion/30303925

"Civilians found in possession of pepper spray can by law be jailed for up to 10 years and fined as much as Bt1 million."

True?

25 minutes ago, 1337markus said:

This comes up every year, and every year a RTP authority states what is required. Pity people dont read.

Latest statement, where can I find it?

2 minutes ago, jackdd said:

About which "random Thai immigration checks" are you talking?

Checkpionts when driving by car from Mae Sai and other car check points. I wasn't driving myself and no one was interested in me. Perhaps because traffic police is a different department?

Otherwise random checkups on the street for pedestrians or in bars I only know them from reading the forums a lot and hearsay which I am not sure is believable.

Anyone ever caught without passport in random Thai immigration check? What happen?

Was any alternative means of identification such as passport copy, black and white or color accepted? Or Thai driving license accepted? Or other kind of ID? Enough to look up visa status in computer and be free to go?

Dragged to police station, detained and waiting for some third party to bring in the passport?

What if no one can be reached who could bring the passport? Detained for a long time and deported?

They really don't escort the the farang to its apartment and check the passport? They'd really go through the hassle of long detention and deportation instead?

What does immigration the passport need for anyhow other than convenience or faster processes? Doesn't immigration they keep digital copies (arrival cards, passport scans at border) in some computer database anyhow? I suppose it's all in the computer anyhow? Expecting too much? If they refuse to look at the database, then what's the point of the database?

They'll make a photo at each border entry and scan the passport. Isn't that sufficient to identify someone who's revealing their real name? Wouldn't that even be sufficient to identify someone who can't reveal their real name?

I've read reports in the forums that those who stay extended times in Thailand (on tourist visas?) may be questioned if they work illegally in Thailand and even refused entry.

Why do they ask? Anyone ever would be stupid enough to "yes"? Does their questioning or other investigation in such situations ever proof someone worked illegally?

Was anyone ever heretic enough to tell them "yeah, I work online"? What happen? What would happen?

Great! ???? Thanks! ????

I am considering to do a border run to Mae Sai / Tachilek.

What in case Thailand refuses re-entry? I'd then go back to Tachilek but with Tachilek and from there I cannot fly anywhere else?