john west

23 hours ago, Brunolem said:

What long holidays??? 

 

Do the children need holidays after 4 months at home? 

 

And what are long holidays going to do for the millions of unemployed? 

 

The real emergency is for everybody to get back to work! 

 

 

 

 

Brunolem
An excellent post indeed and yes nothing is ever going to be 100 per cent and even before this pandamic all aspects were certainly not that.
Yes, unfortunately nothing is going to be quaranteed and just going to work in ones car or public transportation and no not certain if ones loved ones come home safely and alive.
I noticed in the UK 5 kindergarten children came home last week with high fevers and they put this down to the pandamic but back in the day many adults and children have come home with various medical conditions, including high temperatures and such like.
Not stating  this is indeed an unprecented times and very sad so many lives have been lost but if we are to believe any of the statistics then Thailand deaths (though too high for the poor people & families) but is one getting a bit paronoid about the situation.
The growing minority though breaking curfews and still not social distancing are penalising the vast majority of the population, whether Thai or their foreign hubbies are being penalised and not just here in Thailand.
More people are dying or have died of many more diseases and also through other illnesses and indeed the natural causes.
Is it me or is everyone just a little paronoid and the Government too slow to bring people back to work.
On the question of holidays and surely no late Songkran, leave it to next year but the grandparents who basically look after the blood parents children  for 4 months deserve a few days respite and a short holiday for themselves & include the children as well, that is if they want to come and they get very independent these days, well some of them.
The Grandparents deserve a littl holiday for sure.

17 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

Just the incorrect opinion of one immigration officer. There is nothing to support what they stated.

Ubonjoe And as you know on other matters various offices say different and interpretate differently. Each to their own and will be going in if possible in the first week of May and awaiting confirmation.

18 hours ago, wilkis333 said:

We have contacted the nonthaburi immD and confirmed that for 90 day reporting(spouse visa ),we can report as usual and they explained the announcement is regarding 90 days reporting (tourist visa).

Yes have heard this and awiting my local Immigration to get back to me.
If someone actually goes past the offices while doing other essential things like food shopping and indeed collecting new school books then logical to do 3 things at once and especially when they have the liquid and soap on hand.

5 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

There will be no big crowds. When they decide that ministerial notice is not going to be extended again immigration will make a announcement about when the 90 day reporting will be due. It could be based upon the month your report was do or 90 days from when it was due. The certainly will not want everybody trying to show up on the same day.

Ubonjoe sounds reasonable but will they and I will confirm when done my 90 day and yes notice from 1st May and can't one go in any case if say 90 day reporting due 11th May.
Will confirm if and when I do in May.
Cheers for info.
What is surprising in that every year we have to supply the same papers and are all our reports on computer??/ Just asking!!!

On 4/26/2020 at 8:17 AM, ubonjoe said:

You do not have to do the report. Your office gave you incorrect info.

The first extension I mentioned is to dismiss them being needed by most tourists. For example if they entered on a 60 day tourist visa and extended it for 30 days they would not need to do a report until 90 days from the day they applied. That means they could be here for 150 days without needing to report. Also I can assure you immigration will not be trying to enforce it for them.

No and awaiting confirmation as at 27th April and believe they are correct and just waiting for confirmation and as I am actually passing the building and when collecting new school books and essential shopping can do.
Will report back ok and we ak know different offices do different things!!!

On 4/24/2020 at 8:39 AM, ubonjoe said:

That would only be correct when it comes to doing a annual extension of stay.

For 90 day reporting is is clearly written in the order that they are not required.

Awaiting further confirmation that I indeed can report for my 90 days as very likely in the first week of May  will actually pass my local Immigration office and getting essential food and other issues, like collecting new school books.
Yes, seen the order this but they are running the risk of huge crowds in the future and how exactly are they going to notify us in any case?
Will let you know and see the emergency degree now not surprisingly to the end of May and still the same conditions including buying beer for ones own consumption for myself only in my own home?

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

Please everyone who doesn't mind risking infection doing something already announced as unnecessary go ahead. The announcement was made to relieve the load on immigration and counter complaints that immigration itself was causing risks. To go ahead and bother them strikes me as counter productive.

With respect, Jacko45k not really that many people turning up at the offices and won't for 90 days reporting but that was before the annoucement a  day a go and in fact a 90 day is normally very simple task and once got caught last time in that there were hundreds of students going for their visa and they had a lot of paperwork and having their photos taken.
We were advised eventually to go to a seperate window.

Also and will confirm or otherwise next week or early May and many people while possibly going for their essential shopping say in May and if passing the local Immigration office and might as well go in to and in fact helpful and can I ask you don't you go out for essential food shopping and other every day items and with a mask on? 
Or are you one of the lucky ones who gets all your supplies by delivery and yes even then there is a danger of the virus being passed.  Anything is a risk and esppecially if come from outside.
There is a risk but some things are essential and killing 2 birds at once seems very logical and have seen posts that one can go in but left a message on my local Immigration site and they will see it on Monday 26th April, so will advise you.
Before you come back and spout off we and my family are very meticulous in staying at home and sometimes one or two of us have to go out for essential shopping and use the soap provided and we also use this and liquid each time we com in to our house.

As you seem to know alot about it when sending my message the public message came up and the Immigration Bureau will process the above mentioned steps automatically and on the order itself  once this has been resolved then the Alien must apply for visa extensions and obviously if one has one  already which goes through to 2021 then the only date change will be the next 90 day reportin.
Obviously the ones applying for due dates of renewal then yes as soon as possible to the 31st July.
I  am only trying to be helpful and in any case there is danger just going out of the house is a danger with bikes and cars but yes a few less and also with essential shopping and preferably with a mask.


 

2 hours ago, Peter Denis said:

You are NOT on overstay when not doing your 90-day report in-time.  In normal times the fine is 2.000 THB for reporting late (doesn't matter how much you are late, same fine for 1 day late or 70 days late) and max fine for reporting late is 5.000 THB.

Because of the Amnesty (till 31 July) you - as well as every other foreigner in Thailand - is NOT required to do a 90-day report until after the amnesty.  The window to do it will be announced at the end of the amnesty.

You can do it on-line (I did it myself even though it is not required), but there is absolutely no need to make the effort to do it in person at your local IO or via mail.

Thanks indeed to you Peter Dennis and only saw your post after updating mine.
Hope and your family are all safe as can be and keeping well
Thanks again John

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

Not doing a 90 day or being late doing one is not a overstay. It is just that. The fines for the 2 are also in a different section of the immigration act.

Thank you Sir ubonjoe and jacko45k and others
And was going to contact Kanchanaburi and sent them a message on their f/b page and just for clarity and stated passing by, anyway in May but eventually noticed the public relations notes and it states the Immigration Bureau will process the above mentioned steps automatically.
I mentioned that they have my f/b address, not sure got email but thinks so and was asking how will they inform us when our next 90 day reporting is. Mined due 11th May, so I guess 90 days from then about 11 August (that is if I can not drop in their offices in May)
Just trying to be helpful and thanks so much and yes it is confusing, but LOL I am easily confused in what is required and in daily life as well.
Well we need to laugh a bit more in these unprecented times and hope sincerely that you and all your families are as safe as you can be and well
Best Wishes to you all
 

25 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

No it is not, they are suspended!

Thanks and still going to recheck as still go in and if one can do it before, why not but take your point about suspension and was not made aware of this and also when I messaged thenm on the site.
Do not want the problem of overstay later on???

3 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Yes, I understand, I did mine online myself as it was available. I would not have wanted to attend the IO though, for a waived requirement, no more than I would go to the police station and ask them if my car has been automatically flagged for speeding.

Well, see your point but if one can do it normally then possible hassle later on will be avoided. Please everyone check with your own office as often theeir policy is different on other matters too.
I will recheck but for sure will be going in.

13 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

No it is not, they are suspended!

Thanks and my local office is open and yes you can come in as per normal? Again everyone please check with your local immigration office either by going in or communicating with them with their official sites.

2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You do not have to do the report. Your office gave you incorrect info.

The first extension I mentioned is to dismiss them being needed by most tourists. For example if they entered on a 60 day tourist visa and extended it for 30 days they would not need to a report until 90 days from the day they applied. That means they could be here for 150 days without neededing to report. Also I can assure you immigration will not be trying to enforce it for them.

Ubon joe and have asked a few times and for the likes of us who have been here years and there will be chaos but if one can do it in person and some other post stated they are suspended and can see it for the tourists.

Just now, ubonjoe said:

You do not have to do the report. Your office gave you incorrect info.

The first extension I mentioned is to dismiss them being needed by most tourists. For example if they entered on a 60 day tourist visa and extended it for 30 days they would not need to a report until 90 days from the day they applied. That means they could be here for 150 days without neededing to report. Also I can assure you immigration will not be trying to enforce it for them.

Yes, indeed understand from the tourist angle ie can not get flights etc but oh see why they stating the 90 days and it is not for us who have been here years.
Thanks

3 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

No it is not, they are suspended!

My Immigration office stated you can still come in and we are open and surely if one can do it as per normal will save a lot of hassel. Ubon Joe sorry forgot his full member name mentioning the first extension.
I will advise everyone to check with their own Immigration office 

2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Not correct. It is for anybody that can stay longer than 90 days in the country after a applying for their first extension.

By July 31st most tourist that should of left already if the borders are open.

When it is decided that the ministerial notice will not be extended anymore immigration will announce when the reporting is due. They certainly do not want everybody showing up on August 1st to do their reports.

Thanks and notice you mentioned first extension and have been told I can report as normal on or before 11th May.
Thanks

Hi Everyone
Regarding this 90 day reporting and my local Immigration office stated I can still come in on person on or before 11th May and as per normal and will be doing other essential things around that time ie food shopping.
Yes, if one is able to do this and would save a lot of crowds on 31st July.
I repeat they have stated the Immigration office will be open and one can attend, as usual to report to them
Not sure why the 90 day reporting was mentioned, presumably for those who can't make their next date and thought it was mainly geared for those on tourist visa and extending them.
Yes. will keep to my normal mode of reporting on or before 11th May.
I am just trying to be helpful but one can check with your own office/
Cheers

4 hours ago, Estrada said:

"After july 31, does that mean every one will go to immigration on the same day?"

 

No, you would be on overstay. Unless there is another extension, anyone with an extension to July 31st will be on overstay.

Yes, and again this is causing alot of confusion. 
My 90 day reporting is due on or before 11th May and here on a extension of stay and will report to Immigration and always have done it in person.
I have read about this 90 day but think it is for the tourists who have extended one or two times and in any case there would be a huge queue on 31st July.
Agreed the tourist would not know or need to re the 90 day one, but if one can visit then as advised by my local Immigrstion office, I will do so but might claify later but it seems a lot of confusion,

8 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

No need to do a 90 day report until after July 31st.

I was told by my immigration office to report as normal 11th May or before and the extension is for people who are tourists and have renewed thei visa at least once. Only stating what my local Immigration office has told me and trying to be helpful.

1 hour ago, jackdd said:

People who live here permanently don't have to do anything at immigration, this affects only temporary visa holders.

But still report on 90 days to their local Immigration office.

7 hours ago, fulhamster said:

I think the OP was referring to the resident expats who need to do 90-day reporting, as well as renew their annual extension.

Currently those who should report their 90-day do not need to until 31st July.

Friday 1st August and Monday 4th (also Wednesday 6th) are both holidays, with the weekend in between.So the first viable day to report will be Tuesday 5th August.

 

My 90 day is on 11th May or before and no been advised that I go to my local office as per normal

4 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

People who live here "permanently" are not really affected, unless they have to do border runs, rather then having an annual extension of stay.

Exactly report at local immigration office unless at the more popular places regarding retirees

On 4/24/2020 at 5:47 PM, brewsterbudgen said:

It doesn't mean that at all.  The are working on the assumption that by 31 July the borders will have re-opened and departing flights operating, so most people will have been able to go home, or do their border run.

 

If by June borders are still closed and people cannot leave, it will have to be extended again.  

It has nothing to do with people who are on permission to stay for a year and married to a Thai or by those who have a retirement visa and like myself my next 90 day at Kanchanaburi is on 11th May and been advised still to report to their offices then or before
It is those who have visited as tourists and can not get flights home.
 

4 hours ago, thailand49 said:

There were more people dying on the road each day prior to the Virus, if they had even spent a quarter of the effort/enforcement as they are doing with the Virus one really has to wonder?

EXACTLY

On 4/22/2020 at 10:14 AM, ivor bigun said:

So on Aug the first do we all have to go and get our ninety day?

They then state the Immigration offices will still be open and will attend for my 90 day as usual as my province is busy but nothing like Bangkok and other provinces