mankindmatt5

I posted a week or so ago about the documents needed for an Extension for my wife. 

I am here on a Work Permit/Non-B. Wife got a Non-O (visiting working foreign spouse in Thailand), through the online portal, from Taiwan, a couple of months ago.

I'll just summarise everything here, for anyone in a similar position in the future. 

According to the Immigration Information counter at CM, the initial Non-O visa entry must be obtained outside Thailand, for this type of visa. A previous poster contradicted this, in a previous thread. That aside, it can be done in Taiwan easily within a couple of days, as long as documents are all up to date and provided. 

Once arriving back in Thailand and going for the extension, applicants will need bring in the usual stuff (photo, application form etc), plus...

All pages of Work Permit Holder's Passport - copied (+ signed by work permit holder)
Copy of Work Permit
Copy of School/Company Registration (signed by relevant company person)
Letter of invitation (in Thai) for Spouse Visa

Letter of confirmation (in Thai) of Work Permit holder's position + permission of stay
All pages of spouse Passport (signed by holder)
Copy of marriage certificate (stamped by consulate or embassy of the country where the marriage took place)

They also asked at immigration to see the original passport for the working spouse (me), so best bring that along too.

Was happily surprised that this only took two trips to immigration to sort out. Also expected more documentation or nonsense relating to our income, address or marriage documentation, but this was all fine and no additional proofs, photos, bank statements, contracts etc were requested.

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

I was in the same position, but back in 2016.  It was all straightforward (my wife had a non-O from London) but it needed a lot of documentation from my employer; pretty much all the same information/documents needed for my Extension.  We did it at Chaengwattana, and have extended again every year since then, plus my non-Thai son.  Our UK marriage certificate had to be legalised in the UK, then stamped by the Thai Embassy in London.  We got this done while we were in the UK.

Thanks for this. I was expecting the company documents side of things to be basically everything I took for my own extension.

When you extend each year, are you able to go and do it together at the same desk?

22 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

This post is of little assistance however the one important thing is that wife entered on a Non O so yes what you outlined is certainly possible.

 

Also the fact that you are on a Non B (extension) she can piggyback on your extension.

Pity CM were not bit more helpful but that's predictable. 

 

Hopefully someone with first hand experience can post. 

Yes, thanks anyway.

I dare to assume that the info desk meant all documents will relate to my employer.

But I have heard (grapevine) another friend mention being asked for some of the weird things that Thai + Farang couples have to provide 

Photos in front of the condo etc

Hi

Looking for some expert info here on required documents for a particular extension.

At Chiang Mai immigration, if that makes any difference.

I have a work permit/non B extension (working for a school)

Quite recently got my foreign wife a Non O (visiting spouse/90 days), which we would like to extend in line with my current permit of stay (until years end)

Obviously I expect to need the basics ;passport, photo, TM30, application form

Plus documents relating to my employment; contract, school registration, work permit, my passport, my stamps, my visa page etc

On top of that, proof of relationship, so that's a marriage certificate, stamped by our embassy (naturally)

Anything else I need to bring along for this? I did pop in and ask the information counter, but they just said 'Ask you employer, they will know' (...they do not)

Most friends end up doing 3-4 trips to immigration for this kind of thing, I would prefer to have it done in 1-2.

Just to reiterate we are both foreign, this is NOT relating to foreigner married to a Thai. This is a foreigner married to a foreigner.

3 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

@mankindmatt5 excellent report and of great assistance to others. 

 

So to be clear your spose obtained a Non O as your dependent. 

You mentioned needs to be obtained outside of Thailand. 

Some folk are incorrect in thinking this can be obtained from visa exempt or tourist visa entry. 

That's right. I have a Non - B (Work Permit), my spouse then applied for a Non - O (Visiting Foreign Worker in Thailand) - or some wording like that.

As you said, this type of visa must be obtained outside of Thailand, unlike other some of the other Non-Os

8 hours ago, Upnotover said:

The e-visa website states the following;

 

"Financial evidence showing monthly income of no less than 40,000 THB or having the current balance of 400,000 THB, e.g. bank statements, proof of earnings"

 

Individual embassies can have their own rules but it's not going to be much different.  You could probably use an equivalent amount in your home country, you certainly could do so if applying in the UK, USA, etc.

Thanks. I think that 400,000 is only for applicants married to Thais

For applicants married to a working/retired/volunteering foreigner - it seems to be just 20-40k (as per Vienna's Thai Embassy Site)

For those who need to stay with family residing or working in Thailand

1. Financial evidence, e.g. bank statements, proof of earnings, proof of sponsorship from a third party (20,000 THB per person and 40,000 THB per family)

1. Additional document required for those who are married to Thai nationals: proof of income, either party or both must have a total income of not less than 1,000 EUR per month. If the non-Thai antional does not have the said minimum income, he/she must provide proof of an account deposit in Thailand in the name of either party or both of not less than 400,000 THB for the previous 3 months.

7 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

She would need to enter Thailand on a non O .

The non O retirement or marriage can be obtained from visa exempt entry. 

For dependant spouse she needs to obtain the non O outside of Thailand.

 

Thread with some info from ubonjoe.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1245491-dependant-spouse-with-extension-to-stay-based-on-retirement/ 

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1308150-non-imm-o-retirement-options-for-spouse/

Hi DrJack

Sorry, one more question, just in case you know

I managed to source the list of requirements on the Vientiene Thai Embassy site. Everything is extremely clear, except for a request for 'Appropriate/Sufficient Funds'

Obviously a printed bank statement should be fine for this, but do you have any idea how much they would want to see?

Hopefully it is nothing unreasonable, and doesn't require any seasoning or other faff like with the retirement visas

36 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

She would need to enter Thailand on a non O .

The non O retirement or marriage can be obtained from visa exempt entry. 

For dependant spouse she needs to obtain the non O outside of Thailand.

 

Thread with some info from ubonjoe.

https://aseannow.com/topic/1245491-dependant-spouse-with-extension-to-stay-based-on-retirement/ 

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1308150-non-imm-o-retirement-options-for-spouse/

Thank you

Hello all

This is just a quick question about a Non-O visa for a foreign spouse visa. Just to confirm, we are both foreigners, there is no Thai spouse. 

I am currently in Thailand on a Non-B, with work permit and extension being processed and stamped in my passport next week.

My wife is accompanying me currently with a simple 60 day visa exemption, which will expire in January.

We would like to get her the Non-O dependent spouse visa, ASAP

As far as I can see, this means preparing documents like my work permit, passport stamps and company information, alongside a copy of our marriage certificate, plus the usual other requirements like photos, TM30, application form and so on.

I just need to know if there are any other documents required for this?

Also, is it necessary to apply for this visa outside of Thailand? Or can it be done whilst here on a visa exemption? 

In addition to that, it seems worth asking whether she will have to return to our home country to apply, or whether it can be processed in a neighboring country like Laos or Vietnam?

We are in Chiang Mai, and have used the Chiang Mai Immigration Office for the Non B Extension, if that makes any difference.

Thanks in advance for help and input


 

21 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

I don't see any reason to use a different passport. If you play be the rules, they appreciate that.

Thanks

Actually my two passports overlap, so the other one is now fully blank and lasts for 10 years. The one with my current visa is 2/3s full, and expires in 2 years.

Not trying to hoodwink immigration or anything like that. 

My office are unable to keep my Non B extensions going this year.

The extension lasts until October, but I'm leaving Thailand in June anyway.

So far, I've gathered that I should send my work permit to the office, along with a resignation letter, which they will then cancel for me. They may do this after I've already left the country.

Do I need to do anything with my passport or the immigration department? Or can I just leave the country (without reentry permit) as my method of cancelling my current extension?

My extension stamp in from CW (Bangkok), but I'm based in Chiang Mai now, and would prefer not to have the hassle of going to BKK to cancel the extension, if avoidable.

I have new employment lined up for 2025, so I will be back, and would prefer all my ducks in a row, before applying for a new Non B

Luckily, I do have dual nationality, and can apply for a new visa in my second passport, to potentially avoid the Kafka-esque visa issues that occasionally pop up.

If anyone knows the ins and outs, that'd be fantastic.

Thanks

So, it's good news to kick things off - I got engaged over the NY period

This is great, as it will allow me to get my partner a dependent visa, alongside my own (I'm on a Work Permit/Non-B)

There's a slight complication, in that I'm a dual national.

My current Thai visa is in my Irish passport

I'm planning to get married in Japan (to Japanese national) and due to a range of bureaucratic headaches, this marriage will see me use my UK passport 

This means that the marriage certificate will have - My Name + Nationality = British

But I'll be making my further extensions with my Irish Passport, and planning to use this to make the Non-O (Spouse/Dependent) visa for my fiancee

Is this likely to cause issues/problems or confusion at Thai Immigration?

Can I get around this by declaring both passports?

Would it be better to let my current extension run it's course, and then begin afresh with my UK passport?

Thanks - appreciate any input into a tricky/unique situation

1 minute ago, Tod Daniels said:

Did you have a TM30 filed in Chiang Mai showing you've been registered to stay there?

That's usually why they question you. There is no official rule that says you can't file a 90 day report at any immigration office where you happen to be staying when it comes due
BUT

when they see out of province extensions (especially without a TM30 showing you now are IN that province) they can get a bit persnickety

 

Last TM30 was in Hua Hin, due to a hotel stay (which is what prevented my online TM47 going through).

Before that I've had 2 90 day reports done in CM and I had my CM TM30 slip in my passport too.

Usually do my 90 Day online, but a system issue meant a visit to immigration today.

Officer was perfectly friendly, although I felt he was questioning me a lot on my address, travel plans and residency in general.

My work permit and extension are connected with Bangkok. But as I work remotely, I move around a bit and have spent the last 6 months in CM.

I got the impression that the IO thought I should be reporting 90 days in BKK, because my extension stamp is from CW. He seemed overly questioning about why I was in CM and when I would be returning to BKK. Also wanted to check I wasn't working in CM.

Is there any actual restriction on working online in different parts of the country, if visa extension itself is based in a particular province?

Maybe officer was just making conversation. Couldn't help feeling he was probing for a rule breakage or applying pressure though. Might have the wrong end of the stick either way.

No big issue, but would appreciate any input if I'm technically breaching a rule or not.

If I end up having to go again, would it be a problem to tell them I work online, but the head office is in BKK (thus my extension is from CW) ?

Asking for a friend here.

They signed up for a Non-Ed from an agent.

6-7 weeks to process. 12-15 months stay. Etc.

The school just got in touch this week, and have confirmed registration etc.

The thing is, friends current visa expired today, and the agency have yet to confirm the new Non-Ed.

They've only responded that things are busy, and to be patient.

Is this normal agent stuff, or does friend need to start packing their bags and getting cash for an overstay fine?

12 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

That's exactly correct. 

I was thinking of non O retirement and marriage..

 

Yeah, in fairness I think the employment Non Imm Bs can end up in this kind of situation.

If school closures pop up again, although unlikely at this stage, Non Imm Eds could end up in a stuck situation too.

Rumour on the street is that the latest extension includes some limitations.

If someone entered on a Non Imm, they cannot keep going with Covid Extensions?

Any confirmation on this?

I've been trying to register for a booster (3rd dose) via various mobile providers, plus the intervac site.

Each time I complete the registration I receive a message that I'm not eligible as I don't meet the criteria. 

I received 2 doses of Sinopharm via the Chulaborn Royal Academy program by 08/10/21, so this is over 90 days + way over the 30 day period that the sites indicate is needed for a booster.

As if this wasn't irritating enough, TRUE didn't even have my nationality on their drop down list (although don't worry all the North Koreans in Thailand are covered)

Anyone else had this issue? Can I just go to a vaccine centre for a walk in dose?

Don't mind which vaccine I receive, although MRNA would be preferred for more protection than the Sinos.

Thanks

52 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Would love to see confirmation or otherwise of this statement.

This is according to who? The friend? 

 

And this bit.....

"This may only be an issue for longstayers, but not tourists"

 

Where did that come from? 

Friend's report eventually came from another agent, their exact wording was that CW don't do Covid extensions if you have a Covid extension in your passport from a different province.

The other part is more speculative, also that perhaps tourists on Covid extensions deal with MTT not CW. In fairness, it makes perfect sense for a tourist to have stamps from the various provinces they ought to be travelling around while being a tourist on a trip. 

This is a report from a friend who went to CW recently to do this

TM30 is an absolute necessity. He was turned away by the person who gives out queue tickets initially without having it.

It is however very easy to do. A landlord can sort it out in about an hour. Otherwise, ask a hotel to provide it, if they're not staying in long term accomodation 

Having had an agent do a previous report can cause issues. My friend used an agent, who did the extension at another, non CW office. Because this was done via agent, without his presence, his photo wasn't on file.

So, for CW there's a bit of double jeopardy. If you've used an agent for another extension, without attending immigration - they won't deal with you.

On top of this, apparently CW will reject any Covid extension if you have another immigration offices' stamp in your passport. (No idea why) This may only be an issue for longstayers, but not tourists.

Sorry, at CW

Just as above, have heard a recent report that a TM30 is needed.

Others say just the usual passport, departure card and photos with application.

Any recent news? It'll be my first application for this extension.

So, company is out of business. They've decided to pack everything up and get out at the end of this month.

They want to take our work permits up to Labour and cancel extensions on the 13th of Aug.

But I've been assured that everything will run until Aug 31st. Allowing me to move apply for Covid extension when passport comes back from their agency around 20th Aug.

Just checking that this all makes sense. As I thought I had to be there when extension is cancelled, and I have no idea if it can be done in advance as the company are stating.

My friends company will cease business at the end of this month.

He is going to try to move onto the Covid extension after surrendering work permit and cancelling current extension of stay.

Does anyone know what documents are required to get onto the Covid extension? Is the fee the standard 1900 baht still?

If say, later in the year, a new job sponsor is found or he wants to move onto something like a volunteer or ed visa, is it possible to transition from the Covid extension to one of these types?