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37 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Really? So NATO was considered to be a threat to Ukraine? Considered to be a threat by whom? If Ukrainians really felt threatened by NATO then why did they overwhelmingly vote to leave the warm protective embrace of its Russian big brother? 90% of those Ukrainians who voted, voted for Ukraine to become independent.  You think they felt threatened by NATO? 

well if no one felt threatened then whats the point in keeping NW with memorandum or not, keeping NW was never an option, it is just hindsight speculation. 

24 minutes ago, gargamon said:

Sorry to cloud the conversation with facts, but the Ukraine HAD nuclear weapons but because Russia signed a non-invasion treaty, they would give them up.

Do you understand back then that Russia was not considered to be a threat to Ukraine, but NATO was. So the memorandum was to protect Ukraine from NATO aggression in the 1st place, also this is why the US insisted on transferring NW to Russia.

16 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

So why did Sergey Lavrov, who was in Paris at the time of the 2014 Russian invasion in Ukraine, simply not show up to the meeting that Ukraine called. Claiming the memorandum was signed with a different government, not with this "illegitimate" one.

 

If it was signed with an illegitimate government as he claims, they also claim the present government in Ukraine is illegitimate so it just shows that any new peace agreement is worthless and they can't be trusted.

no idea, ask Lavrov. Ukraine having NW was never an option. US wont allow it. Memorandum was just a bandage, to give an illusion some kind of trade has happened.

Just now, placeholder said:

Including you. So maybe you should be a little less categorical about what a poor nation can afford in the way of nuclear weapons.

no need to argue with me, i stated facts why back then the decision was made.

Just now, placeholder said:

Can you please share that insight with Kim Jong-un?

Today 2022, 32 after Ukraine signed the memorandum and Kim still have no long range delivery devices, and what his weapons are capable of no one really knows.

Just now, LosLobo said:

If Putin signed a Peace Treaty now it would only be for him "to save face" because he is unable to further prosecute a successful total war with Ukraine at this moment. 

 

So would you then suggest that the agreement was invalid because "saving face" is a legitimate out for Putin, to break the "Peace Agreement" when he has replenished retrained and rearmed his forces?

In my mind an agreement is always valid irrespective of the reasons for signing it!

I dont understand why you writing this to me, it was not in US interest to give a country nuclear weapons that can hit the US territory, therefore there was no choice for Ukraine to have it, memorandum or not. If Ukraine declined the memorandum, then there would be something else.

7 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Actually it gave them up because of the Budapest Memorandum, signed on 5 December 1994, Ukraine exchanged nuclear weapons for pledges by the three powers (i.e. Russia, US & UK) “to respect the independence, sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine” and to refrain from the “threat or use of force” against the country. ' 

 

as mentioned in @LosLobo in his post on the previous page. 

 

However we all know Russia broke this agreement when Ukraine was invaded in 2014. Very convenient for them now that Ukraine had given up its nuclear weapons based on Russia's promise of never invading.

 

Ukraine called a meeting...........

There was a meeting of the signatories of the memorandum that was called by Ukraine and it took place in Paris. The foreign minister of the Russian Federation, Sergey Lavrov, who was in Paris at the time, simply did not show up. So he wouldn't even come to the meeting in connection with the memorandum.

[Russia argues that it] signed it with a different government, not with this "illegitimate" one. But that, of course, does not stand to any international legal kind of criteria. You don't sign agreements with the government, you sign it with the country.

 

 

 

 

1. Memorandum was an option to safe face. The giving up of nuclear weapons was an offer one cant refuse, neither US or Russia was interested in Ukraine having any, because the delivery devices were capable of hitting US and every other NATO country. If Ukraine declined then USSR might have decided to not give independence to soviet states. 

2. Nuclear weapon is very expensive to maintain and requires advanced technology, Ukraine as a poor country could not afford that and did not have the required technology, since the rockets were not produced by Ukraine alone but whole USSR.

3. The launch codes were in Russia hands and it was virtually impossible to operate the rockets.

4. While rockets were stationed in Ukraine territory, it did not belong to it, the rockets were a product of whole USSR nuclear program.

Basically nuclear weapons were no use to Ukraine back then and nobody could predict, what will happen in the future, especially taking in mind the promise not to expand NATO border towards Russia. History could go other way, and Ukraine would be allied with Russia and possible target for NATO, US could not risk that, therefore the deal of giving up nuclear weapons was arranged, all the speculation of leaving weapon in Ukraine hands just hindsight. 

One can speculate that already back then Ukraine was a potential target for US and memorandum was more targeted towards US and NATO then towards Russia, having the plans in mind US insisted on giving up nuclear weapons to Russia, the risk of leaving it in Ukraine hand was too big.

there is ganja plaza (photo above little walking street) on jomtien road, they offer weed  as cheap as 100 baht for 3 grams, local produce.

18 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

Bus line 138 goes there but probably will not take you directly to where you want to go.

You checked Bolt?

Also, there is heavy construction in both directions it took me over an hour to get back last weekend.

Bolt says 300 baht a ride, which i am considering.

What will be the best way to get there using public transport service? Are there any like minibuses or bahtbuses going there from sukhumvit?

On 6/17/2022 at 10:19 AM, robblok said:

Ok lets stick to the topic then even though carbs are not necessary they are certainly not harmful or and you wont get fat from them either unless you consume too much. Calories that is, otherwise the guy on the twinkie diet would never have lost his weight.

 

No need to go low carb or keto to get to your goals. Low cab people need to learn that there is not one way to lose weight but many. That people respond differently (as research has shown). Some do amazing on low carb others amazing on higher carbs. On average meta-analysis shows no advantage of low carb (meta-analysis makes sure you cant cherry pick studies).

 

However there are people who respond great to low carb, same as to higher carb. Food selection is far more important then the difference between carbs fat and protein. 

 

So constantly bringing up carbs is not helpful in the least.

Do we need carbs (no)

Do you need to go low carb to lose weight (no)

Is it a good idea to cut processed foods (yes)

Is it ultimately about food intake (yes after cutting out processed foods)

 

 

 

 

Carbs trigger insulin release, insulin is fat storing hormone. If you young, active and healthy, it probably does not concern you much, otherwise carbs should be avoided. 

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4 hours ago, Lacessit said:

You advocate giving Putin what he wants. Please explain logically and intelligibly why you think surrendering Ukraine to him will be enough, when history has shown for dictators no conquest is ever enough, and Putin is on record as wanting to bring back the USSR and the satellites all the way to East Germany.

Because according to western sources Putin is very sick and soon no more, so East Germany is safe, it will take many years for Russia to recover after what is happening in Ukraine before it will be in shape to even try any new big military operation.

The people you call comrades are very likely to be indians, majority are anti west and pro russia, ask me how i know ???? 

4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Like Putin saying yesterday that he would arm Belarus with nuclear capable missiles?

 

 

I dont care what Putin said he will do. My point is if someone promise he wont do something or has no plan or intentions to do something today, does not mean that tomorrow he wont change his mind. So if NATO says we strictly defensive alliance, one has to have in mind that tomorrow it might not be and if you are not ready you are dead.

5 hours ago, heybruce said:

The US and NATO have no intentions of putting nuclear missiles in Ukraine.  The US never liked having a communist government in  Cuba but has tolerated it and not invaded it.

I always feel confused when I read something like this or "NATO is a defensive alliance", like how people actually can believe that. Like, today maybe it is a true, but what about tomorrow. 

"Because of threat to world piece yadayda, we decided to put missiles where we promised we wont, because we were forced to and have no choice, and change our stance on non-aggression position, because fate of the world depends on it, just only this once". Like, this is what happened all the time during human history. Today say something, tomorrow do the opposite, because circumstances changed.

5 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Well Arnie may not break it down in stats but he certainly is sending a strong message on western media. This from yesterday

 

While Europe is still buying, Ukraine is still doing the transit of Russian gas. Honestly, I'm mind blown, Ukraine transit gas so Russia gets more money to finance their efforts in killing more Ukrainians, this is like the worst case of self harm if I ever seen one. What is the reason Ukraine still allows Russia to earn billions on selling gas to Europe, should not it be like top priority for any country to cut supply off to the enemy, what is happening?

On 6/13/2022 at 1:48 PM, Bkk Brian said:

There is only one crime. The fact that they were put on trial in the first place along with the death sentence imposed. This in itself is a war crime as confirmed by the UN.

 

What you mean the trial in the kangaroo court will have all this information that you don't care about?

My guess there is a stenography or video record of the whole procedure somewhere in what crimes they are being accused of, so anyone interested can watch it instead of asking me "what crimes", I am not interested, so I did not watch it.

2 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

They worn Ukrainian issued uniforms and joined and were serving in a unit of the Ukrainian army and retained there British citizenship which is OK to do so. 

The crime is being investigated at the moment when it was committed, when they came to Ukranian with intent to fight, they were not yet wearing any uniform nor served in Ukranian army. I dont know the details if they were enrolled immediately after coming or they were fighting as irregulars and got their official papers sometime later, the trial should have all this information shared, but i dont have interested in watching it, because i dont really care.

On 6/12/2022 at 8:43 AM, coolcarer said:

Russia also needs to stop destroying the grain storage facilities, silo’s and warehouses. According to the Ukraine Prime Minister so much has been destroyed by Russia that there’s not enough space to store the expected fall harvest of 10 to 15 million tons of grain.

 

The Russian media were very open in their rhetoric in April that Russia has tools much worse than weapons available to them. Not quite Holodomor yet but then nobody thought this invasion would be as brutal as it is.

 

Is not it like reversive holodomor, if russia prevents exporting grain from urkraine?

1 hour ago, Seppius said:

But going by the Google comments on Candyland, people are getting high smoking inside, must pay it a visit.

 

They have been open for a while, so I guess they have the necessary (police) licenses

the place is booked to the top, many thais, some locals and tourists, joints are 200, 400, 500 per unit , dont know why the difference probably amount of weed per joint.

Well a simple stomach ulcer will give you abdominal pain, very common, should have done endoscopy like many months ago, i would say 2 weeks of pain is already a sign that something is wrong and endoscopy is like pretty much 2nd step after ultrasound.

Would it be possible to buy CBD oil on lazada, what do you think ? 

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