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2 minutes ago, jany123 said:

Anyway, what you are describing seems profit driven....

Not profit driven, it's called a "deterrent" and it is "safety driven". 

These strict laws implemented in Trumptopia after seemingly failed public education attempts were made to stem the needless deaths and injuries by drowsy driving (which have been well documented via road casualty statistics and statements given by driver's who admitted that they fell asleep or nodded off causing serious injuries and deaths).

I agree it is all about ensuring that driver's do not work too many hours without time off for sufficient rest (laws which we do have by the way in Trumptopia). 

13 minutes ago, jany123 said:

if “500 baht and a wai” is your best suggestion in regards to this, then discussing it seems pointless... although admittedly, with that as a start point, your suggestions can only get better.

Not my suggestion, just my guess at what someone like you would suggest for such an offense.  I have to agree with you that discussing this further with someone like you seems pointless but I would be happy to hear what someone like you would offer up for a proposed penalty for carelessly and knowingly putting others at risk by driving on a highway when one is nodding off and falling asleep?

I would suggest a chill pill and some good music (to start).

37 minutes ago, Mick501 said:

Not sure about the accuracy or otherwise of this comment, but isn't it a little odd that he wouldn't just call first and see if it may be of use?

I think Elon was unaware that there were some very tight spaces that the divers had to navigate through to reach the boys and assumed that his little mini-sub could be used to bring one boy out at a time through the flooded areas.  I don't think there was a call made prior to Elon building the sub but I'm not sure.  Had Elon had all the facts he would have known that his sub was too large for them to use without widening the openings (which he may have assumed was a possibility). 

17 minutes ago, chang1 said:

Not a very smart move. Why make yourself a target for future reprisals? It's not your money and the pain will soon be gone, so just let him go and let the CCTV and police do the job for you. Far better than worrying about being attacked on your way home for years to come. 

Right, something to always keep in mind here in the Land of Smiles.

8 minutes ago, chang1 said:

And they both probably walk home alone late at night. Easy targets for the robbers mates to injure or even kill them, well away from any CCTV. On their wages why would you risk it? Also a weapon may end up in his hands and being used on them. The robber left without any bad feelings for the staff, I doubt that would be the case if they had brought out a knife. 

Agreed.  It seems that Thailand does not honor one's right to self defense either which is unfortunate (and a serious concern for us falangs especially).

58 minutes ago, jany123 said:

Getting behind the wheel when drunk is a far cry from becoming drowsy whilst driving, even if the outcome can be the same. Treating them the same would be a miscarriage of justice and would undermine the whole concept of intent. 

Emotions herein are causing some to overlook the root cause, which needs addressing more than anything else.

So what would you suggest for commercial driver's who work too mut, sleep too little and knowingly continue driving until they fall asleep and injure or kill innocent people on the highways? 

500 baht and a wai... would that make you happy?

17 minutes ago, jany123 said:

Sure... prove “knowingly got behind the wheel when drowsy”... that should work in a court of law.... good luck.

Been done MANY, MANY times.  In fact, claiming that you fell asleep while driving (as in this case) should be enough for a conviction on those grounds.

17 minutes ago, jany123 said:

That said, the charge should be about negligence.... but hey, I said that the root cause needs addressing, and your “simple” addresses that root cause. 

Yes, negligent homicide would be the correct charge if there was a fatality (I have a good friend who went to prison for this when his 18 year old girlfriend died as a result of him falling asleep and hitting a tree - no alcohol/drugs involved).  Yes, Simple man (by Lynyrd Skynyrd) is a great song indeed.

17 minutes ago, jany123 said:

Meanwhile.... by your measure, speeding should be treated the same as drunk driving.... illegally changing lanes can kill.... same same as drunk driving, right?

I never said that but since you mentioned it, if your speeding or illegal lane change resulted in a death or serious injury, I would hope that you would face the appropriate penalty.  And if you were simply stopped for the offense (and were not sleepy or drunk etc) then no I do not condone a "same same" charge as drunk driving, there are laws on the books for these offenses. 

I'll let the last one slide (as it's not worth mentioning).

2 minutes ago, pandabear1 said:

Maybe just hang the guy?

That might be more appropriate.

That's funny, I thought the US didn't negotiate with terrorists.

5 minutes ago, madmitch said:

they no doubt provided the largest brown envelopes and that is much more important than safety, timeliness and quality of construction.

You damn right!

2 hours ago, Proboscis said:

So it would be perfectly fine for someone to say something terrible about you and destroy your reputation? Losing your good name could have all sorts of implications, including employment, investments, being boycotted - ask Prince Andrew about the impact the loss of his reputation has had on his life.

 

The laws of libel and slander have their origins almost a thousand years ago in England. I am sure that somewhere else, such as China, there are earlier references to them. Long before anyone knew what a "snowflake" was.

Let's see, I recall that Musk built and shipped a mini-sub to the cave in an attempt to assist in getting the boys out alive.  Although he was unaware of the conditions that they faced with regards to the confined space and the  tight squeezes (rendering the mini-sub unusable in the particular case), it was Vernon who publicly laughed at Musk, told him his sub was worthless and then told Musk to "Stick your sub where the sun don't shine."

What effect did this have on Musk's reputation... as you put it - "Losing your good name could have all sorts of implications, including employment, investments, being boycotted".

I think that Musk was simply returning the favor, although I think he could have done a much better job than just calling him a pedo. 

Ah yes, how did I miss this thread?  TVF, always good for a morning laugh before my morning dump. 

BTW I think Gretta needs to be paddled (the snotty little brat). Carry on gents!

Since our USA passports are good for 10 years, I opted for the thick one (with 51 visa pages).  I knew it would be full in no time otherwise and I hate the hassle of getting a new one.

1 hour ago, androokery said:

*scanning this message to see if there is any tongue-in-cheek intended or if the poster is actually this clueless* 

result: unclear

Here let me help you!  See thread below (and watch the video).

If not for global warming, they would be out on the lake learning how to ice skate.

On 12/7/2019 at 8:09 AM, bbi1 said:

What about negro for anyone who's black? Also known as chocolate man.

Black is beautiful (but white is preferred).

4 hours ago, bdenner said:

How does one drive carefully as a piece of concrete is crushing his/her car? The bloody thing should be closed!

It ain't bloody yet but don't you worry, it won't be long!

5 minutes ago, marqus12 said:

Who cares what judgments are issued by courts in the third world
country. They can't even clean the streets in half of the cities.

The courts probably work "just as well "as garbage collectors.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWnQFLNTaIk

 

That ain't no ghetto, that's upper middle class America! 

14 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

Most of the people here on retirement extensions have O not O-A. We have had threads from people going far into plans like leaving the country and coming back on a different visa etc only to have it turn out they did not have an O-A they had an O.

Gosh I wish that was the case for me.  Some lucky folks there!

1 minute ago, soalbundy said:

Why, he was polite to a fault ????

Yes he was and if I was a Thai police officer and had him in my station, I would return the beating and then expect him to wai me afterwards too.  ????

1 minute ago, suzannegoh said:

You're correct that the Aetna Thailand policies look nothing like the Aetna International policies.  The main differences are that Aetna's International policies will pay out up to US$2M per year, they have competent agents process your claims,  and they pay out without making you jump through hoops.

And there's the reason the Thai policies are referred to as "throw away policies".  Sad.

Hopefully he will get the same treatment at the police station.