mr_hippo

As for the 2012 games, I don't think I will want to get caught up in any of the bombings that I"m pretty sure will be taking place on a daily basis.

Refresh my memory, how many bombings have taken place during an Olympic Games? I'll help you. It was not Munich 1972 - that was a hostage situation. It was Atlanta 1996 and the perpetrator was an American. If you think there will be daily bombing at London 2012 then you either have a deranged mind or inside information. Now to reply to your drivel in reply to my post.

The girl who was replaced on the opening nite was done so because she was "too ugly" according to the poliburo head who was overseeing the games. Those are his actual words. They wanted a "perfect" face to match the voice and in a country of 1.3 billion people, the 2 just couldn't be found on the same body. Thus the lip syncing.

So far, we have heard about the Chinese government lying, the Chinese people lying and the Chinese media lying and now, trying to justify your cause, "the poliburo head who was overseeing the games" is not lying. Can you provide a link to that?

The age of the gymnasts was abvious before the games evr began. Journalists from the US and the UK (ie, free, independent journalists seeking the truth wherever it takes them), found paper trails a mile long that totally disproves the ages in question. That is what happens in free, independent countries. The truth comes out.

If the ages were known before the Games, why was nothing done about it? Why was nothing said until after the USA 'lost' the gold?

Which leads me to Marion Jones. She was not caught by the IOC or the world community. She was found out, charged, found guilty and stripped of her medals. By who, you ask?? The free, independent gov't of the US. Why would we do that to our own athlete? What do we have to gain?? We did it because she cheated and we are a nation of laws. We police ourselves. Will China do he same? After all, they were the ones who "HELPED" create the cheating in the first place. There are no "free" journalists in China doing any investigating. That is how it works in Totalitarian societies..

She was not found out but confessed after years of lying about it. Who help Marion Jones to cheat in the first place?

"Jones's track future was jeopardized when she failed to show up for a random drug test (the letter notifying her of the test never reached her), and she was banned from the sport for four years. Her mother hired Johnnie Cochran, who successfully fought for her reinstatement. Marion Jones by Beth Rowen, Shmuel Ross, and Liz Olson That dates back to the 1990s!

ANything else mr hippo? If you can't unserstand this then maybe you should join your comrades in the rice fields this harvest. The Supreme Leader is not happy with you and you must make amends.

Now that is a very intelligent comment. Why resort to insults? Is it because you have weak debating skills?

When a person uses 'farang' instead of your name when speaking directly to you, that's a different situation. It is definitely impolite

I have a son-in-law who is Welsh and I call him 'Taff', am I being impolite?

I have a friend who is Scottish and I call him 'Jock', am I being impolite?

I also have a friend who is black and I call him 'SamBo', am I being impolite?

mr hippo, it would seem that your truckload of sour grapes has turned to a stale "whine", and acheap one at that.

See ya in 2012!! I'll look you for in the crowd. Let me guess, you'll be the one proudly wearing the Red, White and Blue!!!!!! Bring a pen and paper and we'll keep track of the medals together.

Another poster who cannot answer questions and reply to comments made!

If anyone is upset by the word 'farang', please report to your nearest hospital where you will be fitted with a new spine and a new pair of balls, free of charge (Balls are optional for females)!

If anyone is upset by the word 'farang', please report to your nearest hospital where you will be fitted with a new spine and a new pair of balls, free of charge (Balls are optional for females)!

ANd the US will win the most medals in the next Olympics. So what. Olympic teams come to compete as individuals. I do think countries though should count their total medals and not just go by total golds. This seems to greatly diminsh the value of being the 2nd or 3rd best athlete in the world at your particular sport. Phelps won 8 golds - without searching, can you name who finished second and third in those 8 races?You guys can bash the US all you want, but it just sounds like sour grapes to me. The US wins more medals in more different sports than any country at the Games. Why? Because we are a diversified country with many different people pursuing many different lives. We take great pride in our athletes and our flag. I'm sorry if other countries can't understand this. Perhaps it is because you field one of the biggest teams?

There is no honor in the Chinese team or its athletes. If your child has any athletic prowess, they will take them away at the ripe old age of 3-4. There they will train day and nite for the motherland only seeing their parents once a year at best. These athletes are grown like crops or cattle. All they do is specialize in the one sport they are "designed for."

Western athletes have a story. They go to school, have boyfriends/girlfriends, work jobs and struggle to be the best. We all know that no American kids is forced to take part in beauty pageants or schooled to take part in auditions. Not to mention gymnastic camps for three year olds.

In reference to the Chinese gymnasts, they have 2 gymnasts from the last 2 Olypics who have since admitted they were too young to compete. So, there track record isn't the best. The evidence is pretty overwhelming against the 3 in question. Anyone who would lipsync for a 9 yr old girl who they thought was "less ugly" than the one actually singing, would not hesitate to cheat in athletics.

So lip svnch has never happened before? Deborah Kerr's singing voice in The King and I was provided by Mami Nixon who also provided the 'singing voice' for Natalie Wood, Aucrey Hepburn and others. How do you know that the Chinese girl was thought to be too ugly? Could it have been that they decided to use 2 singers - one for the looks and one for the voice?

You talk about the ages of the Chinese gymnasts - allegedly 'found out' because the Americans came second - would anything have been said if USA won? That's not a case of sour grapes but a whole truckload!

Should I mention Marion Jones? Made millions of dollars in appearence fees and endorsments through cheating. Need I mention other USA cheats?

Yes, it can be used in a derogatory way. It can also be neutral. It can also be positive.

Wow! You have covered all possibilities.

You are accepted as what? As a nice farang, with whom it is sanuk to go out? Or as someone equal to a Thai person in all matters of daily life?

There are only a few farangs, who are like that. These farangs live exactly like Thais. They are mutated into Thai. And they prefer to associate with Thais more than with farangs. That is totally alright. It is up to them.

All the other farangs are seen as "farangs" by Thais, because the way of thinking and doing is different to the Thai way. It's simple.

I am accepted as me - Mr Hippo. Yes, we accept that we have different passports, different skin tones and different cultures.

Am I equal to a Thai person in all matters of daily life? Yes, we all need money, food, shelter and the toilet.

"They are mutated into Thai" and that sentence tells me a lot about your lack of intelligence, xenophobia and your massive inferiority complex.

am thinking about teaching next year when ive tied things up here in england. does anyone recomend a course to go on when i arrive.is it worth doing them 4 week courses with a guaranteed placement at end of it ?

ive got a few contacts in bkk im going to call to see best way they got in .

May I suggest two courses?

'Caps 101' and Punctuation 101 to start with.

The only way to be fully accepted is to live 100% like a Thai. I know some farangs, who do that, and they start to behave like Thais, also avoiding other farangs.

I and a lot more like me are accepted by Thais. It all depends who you associate with - remember if you lie down with dogs you'll get fleas!

'Avoiding other farangs' - OMG, another of the 'I'm a farang, you're a farang; let's be friends!" brigade. Just because we both belong to the 'farang' group of people, why do you think that I may want to associate with you?

Ignored by Thais at work and also by some ThaiVisa members - next thread, please!

A good result by the GB team but where did the USA go wrong?

Shooting - anyone can buy a gun there so they should have had a good result - no! 6 out of 45 medals

Archery - some people hunt with bows and arrows - 0 medals out of 12

How about fighting? Boxing 1 medal out of 44 and 3 wrestling medals out of 51

Equestrianism - cowboys, Wild West and all that - only 3 medals out of 18

Weightlifting - you're always throwing your weight around - sorry no medals there!

You did win medals at your national sports of baseball and basketball but these are girly sports played in the UK by schoolgirls and called rounders & netball.

So the topic naturally transitioned to the politics of China and the politics of these Olympic games, in China.

Did it or did you push it that way?

Well, it seems pretty clear now CHINA will win the most golds, and the USA will win the most overall medals.

However, I do hope CHINA is stripped of some of their golds because they CHEATED. Some of their gymnasts are so obviously UNDERAGE that it isn't even funny, so now indeed there is the beginning of an inquiry that may and should lead to the removal of some gymnastic Chinese medals.

You made it political!

As threads are wont to do, because of the baby cheaters, the topic did drift to the politics of modern China. You insult me but you refuse to acknowledge or deny the points I made about present day TOTALITARIAN China. I am supposed to respect that response? Not hardly.

You are being a total prat and a hypocrite! If someone says something that you disagree with then you cry 'It's off topic' but if you go off topic then the thread has drifted! If you want to talk about modern China then start another thread about it - when you have gained sufficient knowledge and not before.

"You [LaoPo] refuse to acknowledge or deny the points..." and you, thingthing, do exactly the same by crying 'off topic'. You can't have it both ways!

Now, be a good boy and run along to get someone to help you untie the knots that you've tied yourself in!

Talking about RECENT history, mate. We also are not talking here about US election irregularities (2000 was a doozy!). The topic is MODERN CHINA.

OK, if you insist on talking about recent history, why have you mentioned Tibet? Tibet has never been an internationally recognised sovereign state since the early days of the Qing dynasty. The topic (or should I say your topic) is on who will win the most gold medals and not about modern China.

So which is it, can't provide links or won't provide them? In a country of so many people, is there only one He Kexin?

Actually, there is plenty of proof.

Can you provide unbiased links?

Did I say that propaganda only comes from China? No. But we are now talking about China. We are now talking about a country without free protest, without a free internet, without a free press. We are now talking about a government that murdered its own people in tiananmen square, we are now talking about country that took over Tibet, we are now talking about a country that props up an even worse government than China: the murdering Burmese generals, we are now talking about a country that in its greedy lust for more gold medals forces little girls to lie to the world. That country is CHINA. How can you deny any of these truths about CHINA?

You talk about 'murdering its own people'. Refresh my memory - what did happen to all those Native Americans? Freedom - doe this extend to elections? Remember the rigged 2004 Presidential election?

OP, are you sure thasn you are not British with all your whinging? Just because USA is not top of the medal table but if you look at NY Times, they have 'fixed' it so that the US is on top!

The real contest will come after the Olympics end when Huggies and Pampers fight it out for sponsorship of the 2012 USA Olympic team. Face facts, your team was bad - why are Jamaica (pop 2.8 million) leading USA (pop 304 million) in athletic gold medals.

thingthing "China is most likely going to have some of their gold taken away because of the baby girl gymnast scandals" - there is no proof so it's another oversize case of American sour grapes.

Have you seen the NY Times today? Lek of Brooklyn is complaining that there is no Olympic commentary on any sports channel; meanwhile, Noi, writing under the pseudonym 'Digusted in Tunbridge Wells', is moaning that there is no Thai commentary on the BBC!

Please explain your remark about the showers and the gas mask.

No. Anyone reading the context will understand what I was saying. Trying to label me as a Nazi lover is a new low, and I will not suffer your further insults and foolishness.

Please re-read the following:-

Virulently racist?

I can understand why you're upset, and I agree. I saw Schindler's List, and (as a German), felt like the producers portrayed EVERY German (except Schindler, of course) in a very negative way. I mean if you're going to make up a movie about something that didn't even happen, at least be fair about the portrayals of both sides.

Please open another thread if you want to defend Nazi Germany. Reading your post makes me feel dirty. Time to go to the showers ...

Where did markusv say he was defending Nazi Germany? Then you saw fit to add "Where did I hide my shower cap, err, I mean GAS MASK?" Now why do you want a gas mask when you are taking a shower? You can only be refering to one point in history or where there more when people were gassed in showers?

Does anyone know what thingthing is trying to say with his remark about showers & gas masks?

Yes, and notice that the mad dog is BLACK. Clearly a subtext about the position of dark skinned Thais in a light skin dominated society.

Oh. you are such an ill-informed chappie, aren't you? White or light represents good and black or darkness- bad and it has been since the caveman sat around his fire telling stories. It has nothing at all to do with race. Charlie Chan - a goodie - was normally in white, <deleted> Manchu - a baddie - normally in dark clothing, The Lone Ranger - in white and Mafia tyoes in black.

"Where did I hide my shower cap, err, I mean GAS MASK?" Now what sort or remark is that? Pro Nazi? Anti Semitic?

Neither, and you know it, you took it totally out of context.

Anti-Nazi.

And this is very OFF TOPIC. The topic is about a THAI MOVIE in THAILAND.

So you can't justify your remark and, yes, it is on topic! What did I take out of context? Your remark was "Please open another thread if you want to defend Nazi Germany. Reading your post makes me feel dirty. Time to go to the showers ... Where did I hide my shower cap, err, I mean GAS MASK?" Now. tell me what were you referring to when you mentioned showers and gas masks?

The following are your quotes from this thread, are they about Thai movies in Thailand? So you are off topic.

Sweeney Todd

In the early days of Hollywood, the only roles available to black people were bad stereotypes of black people.

Speaking of scary movies, the current running movie ROGUE about Aussie man eating crocs is really excellent!

Mississippi Burning: white people actually did burn black churces!

So in your opinion, the movie is racist but you make a racist remark and try to justify it by saying 'It's off topic.' Please explain your remark about the showers and the gas mask.

I am really through with the Nazi topic. It is off topic so don't expect further comment.

I asked you why did you post such a racist remark; I don't know if you can't or won't answer the question. You say that it is 'off topic' but you don't seem to know what your own thread is about! The title of your thread is "New Thai Movie "hanuman" Is Virulently Racist". You went on to say "it [sic] was the most racist anti-farang movie I have even [sic] seen!"

I take it that you are anti-racist but then you edit a post with "Where did I hide my shower cap, err, I mean GAS MASK?" Now what sort or remark is that? Pro Nazi? Anti Semitic?

I am really through with the Nazi topic. It is off topic so don't expect further comment

So why did you make further comment? Your post timed at 16:32:25 says

"I can understand why you're upset, and I agree. I saw Schindler's List, and (as a German), felt like the producers portrayed EVERY German (except Schindler, of course) in a very negative way. I mean if you're going to make up a movie about something that didn't even happen, at least be fair about the portrayals of both sides."

Please see your original in my post #225 but then your post #223 states 'This post has been edited by Jingthing: Today, 2008-08-19 17:07:44' so it now reads:-

Virulently racist?

I can understand why you're upset, and I agree. I saw Schindler's List, and (as a German), felt like the producers portrayed EVERY German (except Schindler, of course) in a very negative way. I mean if you're going to make up a movie about something that didn't even happen, at least be fair about the portrayals of both sides.

Please open another thread if you want to defend Nazi Germany. Reading your post makes me feel dirty. Time to go to the showers ... Where did I hide my shower cap, err, I mean GAS MASK?

Now why did you add that last sentence? That was the only addition to your earlier post.

Virulently racist?

I can understand why you're upset, and I agree. I saw Schindler's List, and (as a German), felt like the producers portrayed EVERY German (except Schindler, of course) in a very negative way. I mean if you're going to make up a movie about something that didn't even happen, at least be fair about the portrayals of both sides.

Nah man, look at how you wrote that. You followed a sentence about Schindlers list (a movie about the holocaust) and immediately followed it with a sentence saying that they made it up and it never happened. Very easy to think you are talking about Schindlers list being the made up movie about things that never happened. I was wondering why you wrote that like it was no big deal, figured you were just doing it for shock effect. But you meant Hanuman. I think you wrote it a bit badly and we can't be blamed for thinking what we thought.

Look at the words that I have put in bold type - does it tell you something about the poster? He is German and English may not be his scond or even third language. How many languages are you proficient in? I'll hazard a guess, two - English & Rubbish!

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