Saint Nick

Oh, noooooo...so he will be only making a few billions in profit this year, instead of many billions?!

I hope, he can still put shoes on his childrens feet!

But don't worry: with an army of unemployed on the horizon, he can employ a bunch below minimum- wage and sure make up for some of his losses!

Phew...close call!

>extreme sarcsm off<

10 minutes ago, Crash999 said:

 

I thought it was a frame up too. But when you read the facts of the case (as presented in court by both the prosecution and defense, not random blogs and pseudo-media) it paints a totally different picture. The real story was so different than what was portrayed on some infamous websites that you have to wonder what their agenda was. Seems it was more about publicity than objectivity. 
 

Some examples:

 

- Unlike other Burmese the two fled. One changed his appearance. This was before they were suspected of the murder. 
 

- In the end the defense refused to retest DNA using a third-party lab when given the chance even though this could have conclusively cleared the defendants. The judge mentioned this as a major factor in the decision as there would be no way for the prosecution to get semen samples from the defense without them knowing. 

 

- The defense first said they left the beach before the murders took place and the smashed phone was not from the victim. When the father of the victim got IMEI info from the provider in the UK proving the phone was the victim’s then the story changed, that they went back to the beach to pick up wet clothes and found the phone. 
 

- UK independent police investigation results were disclosed only to the families as they could not participate in a court case where the death penalty was involved. The police only said the info would have not helped the defendants. 

- The Thai lawyer for the defendants claimed that they had been beaten into a confession and when he saw them they were horribly bruised. But when challenged why the next morning the two were in front of cameras and no bruises were visible he said the police had given them a special healing medicine. If someone can find out what that special medicine is called I’d love to bottle and sell it!

For example: you are aware, that people who are used to torturing, now ways to NOT leave visible marks, right?!

Or that there are forms of torture, that leave no marks to begin with?

So...what was the point about that?

And also: IF the story of the B2 changed, it was not the only story that changed constantly!

32 minutes ago, scammed said:

do any of you that claim these burmese men were scapegoats have any shred of evidence whatsoever to support your conspiracy theory ?

Did you READ the last 6 pages of this thread?

2 hours ago, Road Warrior said:

if was my son would want "eye for eye "  no  less

So you would be oaky, with two - most likely- innocent men, being convicted on more then doubtful "evidence", get killed, because you had a really <deleted>ty day!

How principled and moral of you!

This case shows 100% what is wrong with the death sentence: too many people get convicted, who turn out to be innocent!

But ...oooopsie...you killed them, with your thirst for revenge!

Yes: revenge!

Not justice!

19 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

lol the air is fine in HH and when the virus hit in Jan. the whole town masked up. I guess there's a general embarrassment among first world nations who dropped the ball so badly that they to want to put down those who did it right. I read yesterday this cop boss in Florida mandating that his police force remove all covid protection inside (lol) a station. Or the UK government allowing travel without quarantine to vacationers only to rescind and require quarantine when they return. The US is still counting 1000 dead a day and the UK's infection rates are climbing again. You can't fix stupid...   

Nothing wrong with what you say, but please...nobody try to tell me, that "wearing masks" is and has been in the genes of the Thai- people, for ages!

The occasional mask- wearing, if someone has a cold or during the hazardous air polution-weeks...but apart from that?

Seriously?

8 hours ago, scammed said:

my answer hings entirely upon the issue if i am going to be attacked

on my scooter or not.

can someone clarify what is coming ?

If there will be water, you will be attacked on your scooter!

Cold Hard solid fact!

Actually sometimes VERY cold and even hard- literally!

20 hours ago, The Barmbeker said:

I like it!

In April!

For one day!

After that it becomes annoying TO ME!

But I don't have a problem with people celebrating - I just wish, the RTP would do their job and make traffic safer, during that time!

 

...I don't really see the use of doing it in September...

Same here, Barmbeker!

And I wish, grumpy foreigners would stop lecturing everybody and their aunt about how "this beautiful, peaceful, traditional festival" was turned into mayham and Thai- people really liking it better the old way!

Ever been on Silom on April 13th?

Where 1000s of Thais celebrate like crazy?

Or in the small back- alleys and sois in Bangkok?

Where family and neighbors come together, eat, drink and splash water at each other and especially the kids loving it?

Live and let live!

So this time, they include one or two people, working in a tourism related- sector?!

????

1 hour ago, David64 said:

I didn't follow the murders thoroughly, just the odd news article.

 

Obviously, the Red Bull is a rich and powerful business group.

 

Not sure how a village headman's son can compare???????????

So, you arrived in Thailand just yesterday?

Welcome and enjoy!

19 hours ago, Dene16 said:

Can't argue with that and will all know that corruption rampantly exists in all levels of Thai society.

But, for me, this case had become far too high profile for them to just blame 2 innocent people with the whole world looking on

As if Thailand gives two hot poops about "the whole world"!

"the whole world" no undasatand Thailaaaaan....

1 hour ago, MrBobHouse said:

I don't follow him to be honest, I find him a bit whiney, like you lot.

 

He's also a bit thick of you ask me with this duel-pricing thing. Rather than name and shame businesses/attractions, he should have been proactive and instead celebrated and advertised places that DON'T duel price, that way he can help businesses that don't play that game, and he wouldn't come across as some upstart who thinks he's got more clout than he actually does.

 

He'll live, no need to cry onto your keyboards. 

"Rather than name and shame businesses/attractions, he should have been proactive and instead celebrated and advertised places that DON'T duel price, that way he can help businesses that don't play that game, and he wouldn't come across as some upstart who thinks he's got more clout than he actually does."

Oh wow!

What insight!

You should be travel- blogger like borrows, making good money off it!

...oh...sorry...I fogot to turn of "sarcasm" this morning!

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Nothing to do with hate, but accepting that farang expats that think they can influence the Thai government are rather naive, at best.

Farangs that think they are important in LOS, are, IMO, acceptable targets for a bit of mockery.

And yet you post comments on every thread you can get your keyboard on and complain as much as anybody else, if only on foreigners, who complain!

Hypocrite much?

As not-an-American, I will not get into the nitty- gritty!

In my opinion, Snowden was not a hero, but a whistleblower, showing the world some "amazing" things and should have been given a medal!

In that regards, pardoning him would be excellent!

But since this is Trump, I suspect some shady motives behind it, that have nothing to do with the good, Snowden did!

I mean...we all know, how the Orange Buffoon thinks about whistleblowers!

2 minutes ago, SteveK said:

You either like a quiet life and keep your mouth shut, or get vocal, upset some people and accept the consequences. You can't publicly criticise a country that you are only a guest in, then act all hard done by when you get hassled as a direct result.

You can in my homecountry!

12 minutes ago, mvdf said:

I love it. Never bite the hand that feeds you. It's rude, downright and shamelessly ungracious and brazenly ungrateful. The Kingdom warmly welcomes all from the freezing upper latitudes to visit, live here and enjoy the life-giving tropical warmth almost absent in their own countries. Be gracious and reciprocate with a grateful heart... and mouth.

 

I hope, that was sarcasm!