mcl2504
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I'll admit I'm a newbie, only here in Thailand for 4 months or so, but happily legal on a 1-year "O-A" (so-called "retirement") visa. I looked at the website provided in the original post. My confusion is that there is no such thing as a "Retirement O" visa. There's an "O" visa that's good for a maximum 90-day stay to visit family etc., *or* there's an "O-A" visa that's good for a maximum 1-year stay for people over 50 who can meet income/savings requirements and now health insurance requirements. So frankly, I don't understand the question. It seems that the original poster has an "O-A" visa and has always used an income method to prove finances. If that's now difficult, the question is whether he should keep the 800,000B in Thailand instead. Well, if one can't do the one, then one can only do the other, right? What other choice is there?
Apologies in advance if I seem dense. But the visa categories seem 100 times simpler than this forum makes them out to be.
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51 minutes ago, BritManToo said:
In quite a lot of countries they do, and in some cases can pass on the tenancy agreement to their children.
I can't say you're right or wrong; it just doesn't mesh with my experience. It seems odd that any country would allow a tenant to hold a landlord hostage like that. In any case, such radically different approaches to tenancy law does prove my point that people, countries, and societies are different, and expecting the ones that don't meet our expectations to change is more frustrating than helpful. But again, I'm just expressing my own personal feelings.
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2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:If I were paying to live in the house, I most certainly would.
And if they didn't fulfil their obligations as landlord, I'd probably take them to court.
I hadn't thought of that analogy. But even with that line of thinking, the landlord isn't obliged to renew your rental agreement when the lease comes to an end, and if you don't fulfill your obligations as a tenant during the rental period, they would have the right to throw you out. So it does cut both ways. The tenant never has a permanent right to live in the landlord's property. Nor is the landlord under any obligation to rent out his/her property. It could just sit empty. So whether we are like guests or like tenants, our rights are limited. At least that's the way I see it.
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When I'm a guest in someone's home, I try not to complain about the way they keep house. And if things become truly unbearable, I cut my visit short. I genuinely don't understand why some come to Thailand and then torture themselves by complaining about the way Thais "keep house." Friends and family are probably better sources of support than a government anyway, no matter where you live.
I hope things work out for the original poster, but for me, the joys of living here far outweigh the problems. When that ratio changes, it will be time for me to leave, not time for me to expect the Thai culture to adjust to my expectations.
I hope 2020 will bring us all fewer problems, more contentment, less grief, and more joy—wherever we find ourselves.
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I had my attorney take care of it the first time. Every time thereafter, I simply produce the slip of paper done the previous time, they look me up in the computer, and literally 2 minutes later, I walk out with my TM30 updated. (I think they just keep stamping a new date on the same slip of paper.) Having said that, I've wondered the same thing about how my attorney proved residency. But it was well worth it to me to have the attorney deal with it the first time.
Should I switch from non-immigrant Retirement O to O-A visa?
in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits
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PS: I arrived in Thailand on a tourist visa and hired a Thai attorney to take care of all the immigration details. It has been painless and easy. I've not had to leave the country once to go from tourist to 1-year O-A. Easy. To be perfectly honest, I don't see why anyone who is not a Thai attorney would try to take on the Thai immigration bureaucracy on his or her own. My experience has been fantastic.