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10,000 baht for a piece of paper with your signature on which it

is written that the person presenting this document is exempt

from paying any fees for one year for tourist visas, non O etc.
in embassies, consulates and immigration offices.

And at the border an immigration officer is obliged
to stamp this person's passport with a smile and a wai .

I know ,I know ...too stingy and selfish to do that !

8 hours ago, webfact said:

“If I am rich or if Thailand is rich, I will give to them

I was in Athens for a week this year.
My observations ... Thailand is rich, Greece is poor.

1 hour ago, Burma Bill said:

Could become a reality with ever decreasing tourist figures!

Maybe when the yuan replaces the dollar in the system ..

Or when wholesale opium supplies to China resume!

Casinos in PAttaya 555
dreamers !

40 minutes ago, JAG said:

I don't really want to get into an argument on theology,

Me too .

2 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Yeah sure. The Spanish Inquisition, forced conversions, repression of knowledge, education, science, selling "absolution" to the rich, support of feudal hierarchies and divisive class systems, haven for sadists and sexual perverts, anti-semetic, etc etc etc.

 

The Catholic Church enjoyed good relations with Nazis, Fascists and still enjoys them with tin-pot dictators in South America and Africa for a reason. 

 

They might give you personal "freedom to sin and repent" for a price but collectively they repress and extort. 

 

 

You forgot to add drugs and radioactive materials smuggling

 under the cassock. .. 555

I am not a pious person, I have not been to the church for years

but learning about different cultures and observing the world
I did a significant shuffle in my opinions and I give credit where credit is due IMO.

I'm a bit surprised that people who are ex-pats in Asia and know the world

more than the average person still can't connect the dots.

Religions create cultures.

That is why citizens of nations built on Christianity have the most

freedom and they are individuals, not just masses to grind .

This is especially true for Catholics because they have the opportunity

to confess their sins and be forgiven...
and with a clear conscience they can begin to sin again 555

There is no religion that gives more freedom than Catholicism!

3 hours ago, kinyara said:

One thing I do notice in all areas of the City be it Central Pattaya, Jomtien, Naklua or across the Sukhumvit is the number of empty premises with For Sale/Rent signs up. I've lived here a long time and it's not something that's been particularly visible in the past. I think it's as good an indication as any of a slowdown in business generally not just tourist centric. 

Half of southern Phuket is for sale / rent
it is a low season ... but it has never been so much,
Whereas in District 1 HCMC I haven't seen a single premises for rent.

2 minutes ago, sunnyboy2018 said:

The ones you mix with apparently.

And children from such marriages are also fake for visas ?

14 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

I suspect many may be. Look at the number of newly married retirees since the 800/400k thing came in. Maybe that created demand will soak up all the ageing fatties in Pattaya and open some young hotties. Win win.

My God ... I hope that all possible resources will be directed

to this front ... including submarines !

35 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Once immigration figure out the dodgy marriage of convenience scams it will be on for young and old.

with a foreigner?
aren't they all dodgy?

2 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

How does the Bhutan retiree visa policy compare to Thailands? I'm sure there ill be many retirees looking to relocate to a lower cost country in a cooler climate. Bit off topic but not really.

There is probably no such visa in Bhutan or it is very expensive
so they don't lament like the Thai people all the time.

1 hour ago, emptypockets said:

Tourism is good for every country. Importing elderly , relatively poor people is not so good. It may have made sense when Thaksin introduced the 50 yo thing..but that was a long time ago. Not so relevant now as many are finding out.

Thailand should stop complaining about how aggrieved it is with

all these white foreigners ...The Thai people brought them here ...
no one forced them !

I am for Thailand to introduce a tourism model like in Bhutan

And stop lamenting .

"In 2014, Bhutan welcomed 133,480 foreign visitors.^[106] Seeking to become a high value destination, it imposes a daily fee of US$250 on tourists that covers touring and hotel accommodation"

I won't pay this but at least things will be clear !

.

1 hour ago, emptypockets said:

Get up and move away. You are an adult aren't you? Or say something. You are a man aren't you?

Were they smelly and obnoxious? Drunk...trying to pick a fight with you.  No of course not. they were living their culture as is their right on holiday. The fact that you don't like it is irrelevant. They were doing you no harm. Get up and walk away to somewhere more suited to your sensibilities. They, like you, are merely visitors. they , unlike you, are probably not bigots. Understand one thing. You CHOSE to live in Asia. Asia is Full of Asians.

Ask yourself how a Thai person feels when a bunch of football loving English drunks arrive at their normally quiet restaurant?

Please realise the world of the retiree European in Thailand is a relatively new phenomenon. Thailand was not put on this Earth as a playground for elderly pensioners from the northern hemisphere to use as a plaything. Thailand DOES not NEED immigrants unlike the USA, Canada and Australia to build their economy.

Tourism is good for every country. Importing elderly , relatively poor people is not so good. It may have made sense when Thaksin introduced the 50 yo thing..but that was a long time ago. Not so relevant now as many are finding out.

8 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Check your facebook profile...I'm really so sorry. Can I pity you too? I'm not up to speed on FB.

you are hypersensitive...so i forgive you !
now take sedatives ...Good night

4 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Except the prices...for everything.

Not necessarily .

3 hours ago, emptypockets said:

Feel free to post your personal, factual, experiences. I posted mine and got a smart <deleted> response from you. Your turn bud.

Two people from two different places told you a similar story ...
Me think you should sorry me ...

1 minute ago, emptypockets said:

You're a braver man than me Gungadin. The Chinese should not be a concern to a man who swims in the sae at Pattaya!!

 

Could explain your posts though...weird <deleted> in that water. 

Phuket has cleaner water ... but everything else just like Pattaya

6 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Get up and move away. You are an adult aren't you? Or say something. You are a man aren't you?

You wanted proof ... you got it .
I got up and went swimming ... I lost my sunglasses in the waves..
so there are also material losses 555

1 hour ago, emptypockets said:

Feel free to post your personal, factual, experiences. I posted mine and got a smart <deleted> response from you. Your turn bud.

Beach ... no one within 100 meters...just me.

A group of a dozen or so Chinese walks up and they choose to sit down 

3 meters away from me. They are talking,,screaming just behind my back

when there are hectares of empty beach to choose from.

It happened to me a few times and I wonder why they do it ...

What are the reasons for this behavior?

Since they can sit wherever they want without disturbing

someone else ... I find this kind of behavior rude .

4 minutes ago, Leaver said:

Perhaps you should Google "Sihanoukville Cambodia."

I think it's a different story and a different scale ..
and now it's a "Chinese" city.

18 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said:

Despite the fact of the chinese government is triyng hard to keep feeding the tax system (As every government in the world do) he should probably not be able to stop the ''black money'' flood outside of the country, it was the meaning of the ''chineses'' i was talking about in my post, not the officials but the one with the pockets full of money to ''wash and clean'' , they now buy already a big part of the condominiums in Pattaya (With some thais and indians for the same obvious reasons) but it's not probably enough for them.

And I am writing that the Chinese government will not agree

to Las Vegas in Pattaya..in my opinion .
and these condominiums purchases will end just like previous waves
(westerners wave and russian wave)

1 hour ago, Traubert said:

Except that over 60% of Chinese tourists aren't in tour groups now but are free independent travellers.

 

Do give my regards to 2009 while you're there.

And just like those of tour groups
independent travelers are buying latex pillows on stacks.

Everything is produced in China except latex?

8 hours ago, kingofthemountain said:

Somewhere it could be someone with a ''plan B''

when all the actual business will really be at the bottom of the hole

it should be the good time to introduce the ''rescue solution'' of Pattaya as a special zone in Thailand

where Casino are allowed, and the chineses are probably already working hard for that option....

 

Wait and see

"....despite China’s draconian ..money is illegally fleeing in increasingly innovative ways."

yeah .. Im sure the Chinese government is dreaming of one more big hole in this bucket.

1 hour ago, bangrak said:

As for your, IMHO illusion, that Nazi Germany had any liking, even any respect, towards Poland, I'm sorry to contradict you, none such, at the time, already, the usual 'formulation' was: 'Slaven sind Sklaven

You know that the Ribbentrop Molotov Pact was signed with the most

hated communist Slavic "state" and there was a wonderful friendship

for 2 years... so you contradict yourself.

Of course, it was about agreeing to be a vassal country
in the bloodbath and genocide in the east but such efforts

on the part of Hitler were.

Don't have to be a genius to know and understand
that if Poland agreed, Hitler would conquer Moscow..

and he know it too.