BangkokBoyJohnny

Anyway Gents (and ladies),

Thanks for the feedback, Good news the Passport was

processed 3pm on Monday in Phuket at Central,

Sent out by EMS on Tuesday

Arrived at our home in Phuket Wednesday 3pm

Super service for 1,040 thb !

Cheers BBJ

2 minutes ago, digbeth said:

 

that British citizen hasn't entered Thailand legally, no entry stamps in his British passport, so expect a grilling, 

even if he got emergency travel document from British embassy, still won't have the corresponding entry in the immigration's computer 

which also raises more questions, why is this farang taking thai kids out of Thailand on emergency travel document, is there a custory dispute and he's using this method to circumvent getting thai passport which requires both parent's consent? 

 

you could try be honest wit the immigration at the airport, and use the British passport, showing the expired thai passport with entry stamp

He entered Thailand on an expired passport, if it is "illegal", it is allowed!

No Custody dispute now, I have had Full Parental Control of both my kids for  many years (and their Mother lives in Aus.)

Anyway no worries now, Passport Office at Central Phuket, the staff there are super nice and helpful, processed his passport yesterday, they think it should arrive this Friday which gives us 4-5 clear working days before the flight.

16 hours ago, DrJoy said:

You should had applied for the extremely urgent same day passport issuance.

8:30 am to 9:30 am is the urgent window, get it same day at 2 pm

In Phuket or Bangkok ?

We're heading to Passport Office now in Phuket...

1 minute ago, couchpotato said:

Thai passports are automatically 10 years now.. (but still only 5 years if renewing under 20 years old).

Yeh he's 17 currently ...

1 minute ago, sirineou said:

We เot it while outside Thailand online from the Thai consulate,but I am sure you can get it at your local Thai passport renewal office. 

This is the one where we live in Khon Kaen, form your name I assume you are in Bangkok 

If you can't find  yours, give this one a call and i am sure they will give you a number to call for your area , Have a thai speaking person call if you have one, they tend to be more helpful .

 02-572-8442 Call Center 24 ชั่วโมง

https://consular.mfa.go.th/th/content/3-4-67-19?cate=5ddbe42115e39c4768007e1d

 

 

Great thanks, yeh I'll ask tomorrow when applying for the Passport, Ps We're in Phuket...

17 minutes ago, Khyron said:

For 30+ years my wife had been getting 5 year passports, but the last time, my BIL went with her and asked the clerk if a 10 year was available. 3 days later a 10 year PP was in the mailbox. May want to ask for one if they offer it.

Noted Thanks...

52 minutes ago, sirineou said:

He needs to live in the same passport he came with.!! otherwise according to his Thai passport he never left. 

   My wife leaves the US, on her US passport, enter Thailand on her Thai, leaves Thailand with her Thai and then again enters the UD with her US passport.

Your sons problem s essialy solved. All he need to do is get an Emergency travel document.

That's what my wife did when her Thai passport was expired but needed to travel. 

Where did your wife get her Emergency Travel Doc ? Was it locally or Bangkok ? Many thanks...

Actually I'm sort of answering my own Question here BUT ....

10 years ago My Ex decided to keep my son's Thai passport and not renew my daughters Thai Passport.

The kids were living with me so I though I'd test the waters and flew with my son to KL and back the next day on his British Passport, Phuket Airport Immigration weren't happy but allowed it. I did the same the next month with my daughter. So after that they were technically here on British Passports and I got them one year Ed Visas.

(When I got Sole Parental Control a few months later I then renewed their Thai passports and they've used them to enter/leave Thailand ever since).

Hence I think I'll push/pay for fast EMS post back with the passport from Phuket.

Plan B Emergency travel doc but not sure if one can get in Phuket,

Plan C head to Phuket Airport and ask Immigration if my son can leave on his British passport....! 

Plan D delay UK flights...

And put a reminder for 5 year time for new Thai passport for son !

8 minutes ago, sirineou said:

He needs to live in the same passport he came with.!! otherwise according to his Thai passport he never left. 

   My wife leaves the US, on her US passport, enter Thailand on her Thai, leaves Thailand with her Thai and then again enters the UD with her US passport.

Your sons problem s essialy solved. All he need to do is get an Emergency travel document.

That's what my wife did when her Thai passport was expired but needed to travel. 

Yeh thats a great idea, never though of that, we'll process the Thai passport tomorrow and also check about if/where we can get his Emergency Travel doc. Many thanks...

8 minutes ago, digbeth said:

 

Not sure how they're organized at Phuket, but in Bangkok Passport offices, after you're done with submissions and photo taken and after you've paid for the passport, you have to go to the Thai Post counter to pay for the postage, presumably they make the envelope/label with your details on, put it together with your application, and at the end of the day and send to Chaeng Wattana to meet your freshly printed passport after which they're sent out, 2-3 days at most,

 

but if they have to send the mailing label/envelope from Phuket to Bangkok and to back, 5-7 days is quite likely 

GULP Thanks !

2 hours ago, digbeth said:

 

Thai citizen can't leave Thailand on an expired passport, he'll have to get the new one

He's also a British citizen...

2 hours ago, marin said:

He must exit on his Thai passport as he entered on it. Last year my daughter 25 came in an expired Thai passport, while holding a valid US one. The IO advised her to enter on the US passport as she would have a valid passport to leave on. She knew we were taking her from the airport to the passport place on  CW which we did that day. 4 days later a new Thai passport was delivered and she left on that. 

Yeh they never asked if he had a 2nd passport and he was on his 3rd flight over 24 hours so a bit jaded ...

2 hours ago, digbeth said:

 

Thai citizen can't leave Thailand on an expired passport, he'll have to get the new one

Yes we are getting a new one... the question was can he leave on his British Passport IF the new Thai passport doesn't arrive in time...

(London Flights and Hotels already booked)

2 hours ago, digbeth said:

there are expedited same-day pickup option from Cheang Wattana, you can go and have your photo taken and submitted at any passport office before 11, but they're all sent by EMS from Chaeng Wattana, for same day pickup you just have to go pick up from Chaeng Wattana in the afternoon, the fees are 3000 baht, instead of the usual 1000

Noted Thanks ....(but we're in Phuket currently)

2 hours ago, Khyron said:

My wife received her renewed Thai passport in 3 days via RT post. This was from Khon Kaen

 

It should be ok to enter on Thai passport and leave on same passport, they will give you the old one back. book your flight on UK passport. If Thai IMM asks for a visa to the UK during exit, he can show the UK PP. They have seen this several times.

Noted Thanks....

2 hours ago, steve187 said:

he has to leave on same passport, as he has no entry stamp in Uk passport, should have entered on UK passport

replacement passports are issued and sent quickly

Yeh agreed but he's 17 and has flown much solo !

Passports get delivered 3-5 Business days according to the Thai form which is cutting it fine!

Do you know for a fact 100% he has to leave on the same (ie Thai) passport...?

(Or actually the new replacement one)

Hi All,

So my teenage son (Age 17) flew into Phuket from London a couple of days ago, he left London on his British Passport, got to Phuket showed his Thai passport which had just expired.

Immigration allowed him in on his Thai passport and made a note in it ...

We are in the process of getting a new Thai passport but there's been a couple of complication (Thai Id, Parental Control etc)

He flies back out to England in one week, which means his EMS posted passport might not get to him in time.

Will he be allowed to leave on his British passport? I would imagine YES but just wondered if any one has experiences of this...

Many thanks in advance to all helpful comments !

Cheers BBJohnny

On 7/25/2024 at 10:10 AM, DrJack54 said:

The email does not mention requirement for wife/children to attend for next extension.

What did you do previously 

I have full Parental Control, my daughter attended with me ...

From Immigration Volunteers :

The mentioned requirements in your email are for the initial local Non-O visa.

You will go straight from a 1 year extension based on custodian to a 1 year extension based on retirement.

If you have a current up to date address registration it should be sufficient, but they can always ask for the house owners papers.

But as you went from a Non-B to retirement to custodian and back to retirement it is to the officer to decide if this is acceptable or not.

What you are doing is visa (extension) hopping and in those cases, they can be more thorough to see if everything is legit.

19 hours ago, OJAS said:

 

Suggest that you put this question to IMM when you visit them.

 

If, in the light of what they tell you a non-O conversion for retirement might prove necessary in due course, the following link contains info as to how you go about seeking one:

 

https://www.immigration.go.th/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/9.FOR-RETIREMENT-PURPOSES-50-YEARS-OLD-NON-O.pdf

 

Many thanks

Noted Thanks DrJack, will advise.

having been on plenty of Retirement Extensions on this Visa I didnt think/hope it would be an issue.

I wonder what happens when kids reach 21, the Custodian Visa is then not valid, do Immigration make one start from scratch? 

Or allow a retirement in that case ...

Just now, DrJack54 said:

So do you have a 12 month extension with a multi reentry permit OR a multi entry non O visa

12 Month Extension (on Non Immigrant B from 2012) with Multiple Reentry permit ...

4 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Good idea.

Assuming you are 50+ suggest as plan B to exit Thailand without reentry permit prior to current permission of stay and reenter visa exempt. Currently provides 60 day stamp.

Then apply for non O based on retirement.

Season the funds and obtain 12 month extension. 

Noted Thanks except I'm on a Multiple Re-Entry so guess it would require a quick Border crossing....

PS Yes over 50 !

I have Sole Custody and the Ex, lives abroad so taking their mother isn't an option.

Kids wont be an option as they'll both be a school overseas....

Think I'll pop in to Phuket Immigration today and ask them nicely !

Hi All,

Going to renew in September but will be in Europe for August.

(Phuket Immigration BTW)

I fancy changing "Visas" back to Retirement. The previous year I changed from Retirement to Custodian to Thai Child but it proved to be quite long winded.

I'm on a 12 year old Non-Immigrant B. (From good old Hull if I'm not mistake)

Should be quite an easy process yeh subject to having the Bank Statements, Photos, Map etc etc. ?

One other potentional hiccup or should it be OK :

I'm the Director (and a Shareholder) in the Company that owns (my/the) Land & House. My kids are the other shareholders Age 14 & 17 currently.

I Have a rental contract from (my) Company and actually pay my Company 90k THB Quarterly Rent.

The Blue Book has no "HouseMaster" on it, just my two teen Thai children, who will be moving overseas for schooling.

Ps Please Before anyone starts on the don't buy a house, It was for the kids 15 years ago, the EX got a SCB mortgage to buy the house, I bought it off her 6 years ago but that's ANOTHER story (Tisco Bank, car loans etc etc) 

Many Thanks in Advance,

BBoyJ...