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8 minutes ago, sanuk711 said:

I don't think this is correct Vicornoir----although I have no doubt that is what the land office told you. You just can not make legal agreements with your wife under Thai law.--- well you can make them,   but she can brake them--while your married or within a year of the divorce. Under Thai law  (section section 1469  & section 1466). )

 

Agreements between husband and wife in Thailand

Under Thai marriage laws any agreement between husband and wife entered into during the marriage can be voided by either of them at any time during the marriage or within one year from the final divorce. For this reason only a prenuptial agreement between husband and wife is under Thai law a valid contract if made pre-marriage and registered in the marriage register at the time of marriage, but it is a void contract if made post-nuptial  

 

 

 

 

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Just one more thing that may be of use and that is my wife and I socialized her will with her family, we told them in advance what was going to happen in the event my wife passed away before me. We did that so there would be no surprises later, the SIL is designated Executrix.

6 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

It's not hard to understand the two causes of LOCAL air pollution in Chiang Mai are burning off, and vehicular emissions. It's a matter of using eyes on the ground. You think Chiang Mai is somehow a magnet for the smoke from Shan State and Laos?

 I am attacking thinking which addresses causes without providing solutions. That's lazy and facile. Bear in mind your first response was to say my solution was simplistic. Cet animal est tres mechant, qu'on l'attaque il se defend. In other words, you started down the ad hominem path.

I can agree to disagree with you quite comfortably.

Chiang Mai Province...and Chiang Rai Province and all of Northern Thailand, not just Chinag Mai City.

And if the nearby fires in the North were extinguished and it was then found that hadn't solved the problem (which it probably wouldn't) what then...wasted money, wasted effort, disillusionment and lots of resistence to any proposed next steps.

You understand (or perhaps you don't because you haven't bothered to read those documents) that the burning in Laos and Shan State is six times the extent of burning in Northern Thailand. You also (don't) understand that what is being burned is crops that are effectively owned by a Thai conglomerate who is a Chinese proxy. So Thailand's government is not in that cross border pollution picture, they are free and clear of responsibility for it and because the conglomerate is who and what it is, there will be no internal challenge from Thai.gov to change things....that's why no solution is offered to the problem, because it's very complex and nobody can immediately think of one. Local burning and car exhaust is not the major problem, you think it is because that's what you see and you feel and have always believed, you have never needed to look for secondary causes and certainly not for new primary causes. You and your thinking are part of the problem.

And the language of the forum is English, nobody is impressed with people posting phrases in exotic languages.

I'm pretty sure it is illegal for a company to own a house where the sole purpose of the company is to do only that. I'm also pretty certain that it is also illegal for non-Thai's to have control of a Thai company, the share-ownership must be a majority of Thai people. None of which is to say those things can't be done, it's just that they are against the spirit of the law, if not the practice of it also.

OK look, all I've done is read two reports that were posted, said they were very good and recommended posters read them, if that's too difficult or posters don't want to, don't, it's your choice. But don't go attacking me just because you're too lazy or don't want to read the reports, it only confuses my stalker further!

26 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

You sound to me like the classic bureaucrat that delights in complexity, because it provides a good living.

Perhaps you have not heard the story of Alexander the Great, who solved the problem of the Gordian Knot by cutting it with his sword. Nowadays, I believe it's called thinking outside the square.

Go to Malaysia. In two weeks there, I didn't see a single fire. No trucks, buses, pickups or cars belching smoke. You think that's achieved by changing the culture? I'll bet there are some fairly stiff penalties.

Blathering about where the smoke is in the various nations is not solving the problem. I daresay I've solved more problems during my professional life than you ever have, so calling me simplistic illustrates your own lack of understanding.

It's classic that you're attacking the poster rather than attacking (or even commenting on) the reports and studies which form the basis of the posters comments! That suggests you have no interest in discovery or any argument apart from what is at the end of your nose, the same one you have always owned. That's all too bad, the Greenpeace report is revealing and the accompanying study fascinating, the structure of ownership and trade the author uncovered was insightful.

And I make to hint about changing the culture or the need for education, I I have no interest and make no recommendation about those things. At this stage in the proceedings I'm solely interested in establishing cause and that's been 100% of what I've written about, actually, it seems as though you've not understood much of what has been said and have assumed what the arguments might be, may I suggest you go back and re-read.  

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

Of course I'm SOL, because you don't have anything better, just unscientific guesses which are irrelevant to any solution. Thanks for stopping by.

I think the Greenpeace report is pretty compelling, twice the number of hotspots. And the NASA firemaps are also pretty compelling, you should try looking at both and seeing just how unscientific those things are...NASA Firemaps unscientific, too funny.

1 minute ago, mrfill said:

It seem to be fading in S Korea

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/south-korea-covid-19-reports-107-new-coronavirus-cases-12538008

The word fading might just be a tad strong for what's really happening!

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Ok, let's hear your better answer. Please, no BS about education. The Thai education system is dedicated to dumbing down the populace.

You could try reading post number 40, OR, you could read the Greenpeace report that Sally posted earlier, OR, you could just look at the graphs I extracted and posted from it above, OR, you could just read the following. But if you want your very own personalized "better answer" described just for you, you're going to be SOL!

"I has always thought that blown in pollution was a lesser problem when compared to home grown pollution, I am now convinced the homegrown variety is dwarfed by what's happening in neighboring countries, possibly even as much as 70/30 but that's just a guess". 

7 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Oh please, those on thread bleating about Shan State and Laos just don't get it. Doi Suthep is on fire NOW. It's local action.

There is a fairly simple solution to the air pollution problem. Fine and jail the poo yais in any villages where the fires occur. Confiscate private property of any landowner burning off. Without compensation.

It wouldn't take long for the message to sink in.

Not that it's ever going to happen.

What I get is that yet again TVF posters demonstrate their need for easy simple answers and most often don't look beyond the end of their nose, let alone read reports or studies, even when they do contain pretty pictures and easy to read graphs! Here, tell me what you think I don't get:

"I have always thought that blown in pollution was a lesser problem when compared to home grown pollution, I am now convinced the homegrown variety is dwarfed by what's happening in neighboring countries, possibly even as much as 70/30 but that's just a guess". 

You'll notice the air quality gets worse as you head North on that road, you'll definitely need masks.

3 minutes ago, lupin said:

Which didnt warrent an answer becasue it had nothing to do with the origianl coment and showed more about your mentality than it sought to clarrify. Its that degree of willful denial which almost assures the continued spread. I dont agree with charging people for testing in a pandemic, South Korea and Taiwan are doing this properly with free testing to all that want it. I'm not gonna get into a nonsensical, silly back and forth with an ostrich.

Calm down for gods sake and stop jumping to imaginary conclusions, I only asked you a question!

So, you think that voluntary testing in Thailand is a good thing but that it must be free. Do you really think that Thai people in general as that civic and socially minded to want to do that, I personally doubt it very much.

1 minute ago, lupin said:

Oh, so head in the sand. Nuff said

That was a question, as evidenced by the squirly character with the dot underneath it at the end of the sentence.

33 minutes ago, lupin said:

Or you're infected and asymptomatic, thereby walking around infecting others unkowingly

Do people really want to know that though, would you get tested to find out? 

Perhaps he thought it was a drive through!

21 minutes ago, scorecard said:

But my question is why have the numbers decreased enormously in China down to small single digit numbers? Seems to me (my assumption) that in the early days, with little information, vast numbers of people (the original virus start point and surrounding geography is very densely populated) would have been getting on with their daily activities and to some extend not that well informed, especially in the early days, I repeat my question, why did the total number of infections fall so much and so quickly?

 

Further. does the data suggest that the same big and quick reductions in new infections will happen in Italy, Sth. Korea, and in fact every country?

 

All information very welcome.

Containment.

"China says the trend proves that its containment measures — which include a lockdown on nearly 60 million people in Hubei and strict quarantine and travel restrictions for hundreds of millions of citizens and foreigners — are working. And it has begun trying to promote its efforts as successful in propaganda at home and abroad".

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/world/asia/china-coronavirus-cost.html

There's always an upside to these things, export levels may not be that bad after all.

1 hour ago, khunPer said:

An average tourist spend 5,000 baht a day, that's probably more than the average expat; hard to believe that expats spend 150,000 baht a month in average...????

 

Resident Westerners don't all spend 150k baht a month on average every month, that's fantasy, some working expats on Western packages may but they are a small percentage. A few may be big spenders but the average is more likely to be somewhere around 65k or so, there have been surveys on TVF that confirm that is the case.

The issue is that whilst tourists may average around 5k per day they only do so for 14 days per year. Resident Westerners spend their 65/75k a month, every month of the year.

12 hours ago, cmsally said:

That is the whole idea, in that lack of regulations and education mean it is very difficult to trace who is creating the problem.

It is very convenient to have neighbouring countries with a large percentage of subsistence farmers, lack of education and high level of corruption.

Thais look clean because you point at Burma and Burmese don't care because its Shan State and I suppose just there for their use as a money making trash can.

The same of course would go for Laos.

 

Coming back to the original point for a moment which is whether the majority of the pollution problem originates inside Thailand or beyond its borders: the Greenpeace report makes it clear that last year there was twice the number of hotspots in Shan State (SS) than there was in northern Thailand and that the growing area was at least twice as large. Anecdotally, the pollution problem seems to have worsened over the past five years which seems to be reflected in the increase of growing area in SS. I've not seen any reference to the number of fires or growing area in Laos but in just looking at the volume of hotspots on the NASA firemaps I estimate there are twice as many if not more. Those things suggest Thailand is surrounded by near neighbors where the volume of fires is between four and six times that of Thailand, do you agree?

Offshore winds from the East and West coasts of Vietnam and Myanmar mean that air currents converge in Thailand which is right in the middle of the landmass, it seems inescapable that Thailand suffers as a result, windmaps seem to confirm this is the case with the greater impact coming from the East.

I has always thought that blown in pollution was a lesser problem when compared to home grown pollution, I am now convinced the homegrown variety is dwarfed by what's happening in neighboring countries, possibly even as much as 70/30 but that's just a guess. 

The fact that Thai business might be responsible for at least part of the problem makes a solution difficult to imagine. There will be almost no chance the people of Laos or Myanmar will want to force change which leaves the onus for it on the Thai population and ASEAN as a whole. ASEAN seems likely to be impotent in this case and the Thai population hamstrung by a government that is not fully democratic and is at least partially corrupt. Perhaps climate change and drought offer a partial solution although the Chinese annexation of the Mekong seems to have covered that base.

I don't know, I'd be interested to hear what anyone else thinks the solution is to that problem, it seems clear however that complaining about Thai farmers home grown burning is not part of the bigger problem, or the solution.

6 hours ago, thequietman said:

Satellite images show fires currently being lit all over Thailand, and still the 'government' do Nothing! Sickening.

The following was a real eye opener for me personally and I've been following this problem for twenty years: