JohnBarleycorn

1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

yiou can get D3 supplement alone on Lazada (Puritan Prie bran) byt the lowest dosage available is 5,000 IU

 

Since the boy is able to store this vitamin you might consider just a once weekly weekly dose of 5000 IU

 

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/puritan-vitamin-d3-5000-iu-200-softgels-i567412591-s1040050433.html?spm=a2o4m.searchlist.list.13.60855b72eQWrUB&search=1

 

Alternately you can get Calcium supplements that contain 1000 IU D3, provide you need the Calcium/have no contraindications to it

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/200-puritans-pride-absorbable-calcium-1200-mg-plus-vitamin-d3-25-mcg-200-200-rapid-release-softgels-i571304798-s1048912783.html?spm=a2o4m.searchlist.list.19.60855b727P4EeQ&search=1

 

I am not sure that Thailand has an official abbreviation for microgram and of course both microgram and milligram are "m" and "k" in their alphabet.  I encounter many, many cases where the same abbreviation is used for both

 

Anyway, as I ALREADY stated above, Pfizer today emailed me IN ENGLISH stating that CENTRUM SILVER 50+ contains, per tablet, 1.2 mg of D3.

ALSO, if you wish, you can refer to various studies conducted in Thailand demonstrating that a high percentage of Thai children suffer from vitamin D deficiency and insufficiency.  This, even though many of these children engaged in sports activities outdoors under Thailand's blazing sun.  Please just refer to the literature to find these studies.

1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

yiou can get D3 supplement alone on Lazada (Puritan Prie bran) byt the lowest dosage available is 5,000 IU

 

Since the boy is able to store this vitamin you might consider just a once weekly weekly dose of 5000 IU

 

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/puritan-vitamin-d3-5000-iu-200-softgels-i567412591-s1040050433.html?spm=a2o4m.searchlist.list.13.60855b72eQWrUB&search=1

 

Alternately you can get Calcium supplements that contain 1000 IU D3, provide you need the Calcium/have no contraindications to it

https://www.lazada.co.th/products/200-puritans-pride-absorbable-calcium-1200-mg-plus-vitamin-d3-25-mcg-200-200-rapid-release-softgels-i571304798-s1048912783.html?spm=a2o4m.searchlist.list.19.60855b727P4EeQ&search=1

 

I am not sure that Thailand has an official abbreviation for microgram and of course both microgram and milligram are "m" and "k" in their alphabet.  I encounter many, many cases where the same abbreviation is used for both

 

Of course you are correct that the body stores vitamin D3 in body tissue (fat cells).  However, in comparative studies of single doses of 20,000 IU given periodically, versus a daily regimen of smaller doses, the meta analysis I read in the BMJ argues that a daily dose is superior to protect against complications due to respiratory diseases.  I am sure you can find this meta analysis in the BMJ.

If there is no difference between the Thai abbreviation for microgram and the Thai abbreviation for milligram, then it is therefor ambiguous, and should not be used by pharmaceutical companies.  Such ambiguity could lead to a mortal and unnecessary outcome, depending on the drug.  Any drug should not be prescribed in amounts of give or take a factor of a thousand.   600 milligrams of Tylenol per day is OK.  But, 600,000 milligrams of Tylenol per day is probably too much.

10 minutes ago, cmsally said:

This morning on my desktop it took about 3hrs for the LAN connection to show as connected. It spent about 3hrs spinning "acquiring network address". The weird thing was that it didn't affect my internet connection. Normally when you switch on that thing has to connect before you can get an internet connection !

Same thing happened on my connection two weeks ago:

The lan cable stopped working, BUT the WIFI from the router still worked.

My view is that the internet might be less stable these days.

Also, AGAIN, the internet where two of my friends live, Mae Rim, has basically not been working since Monday at about 2:30 PM.  Fortunately, my internet near CMU has been stable since late Tuesday evening.

33 minutes ago, dddave said:

Three weeks ago, I placed an order with "i-herb" in the US for some products I use fully expecting delivery (Bangkok) to take a month or more with current conditions.  I was shocked when the full order arrived  9 days later.   

Shipping charges are very low and as long as an order is under US$80, customs doesn't seem to care.

I will consider this next time, for sure.

After my problems with the local Pfizer product, I decided to purchase online from an importer of vitamins located in BKK.

Hopefully, say hopefully, this will arrive in good condition and be genuine, as well as not out of date.

Ordering on line is a experience fraught with surprises in some cases.

The price charged by the on-line store is about six times what one would pay in the USA, judging by prices on Amazon, etc.

When it comes to imported items, one must be prepared to pay and pay.

As Lou Reed once sang:  "Everybody had to pay and pay.  A hustle here and a hustle there."

Maybe the Sugar Plum Fairy will gift me some vitamin D3 before I wake.

I will check under my pillow, first thing tomorrow AM.

Here's hoping....

These days, and maybe for the next few months, travel seems unwise, unless one were a solo navigator on a sailboat, someone like Joshua Slocum, a man who sailed single-handedly around the world at a time before the Wuhan Virus was covered up in China by Xi.

If I were to be quarantined, then I would prefer to be self-quarantined with fast internet so that I could continue to work. Without work, life is a drag.

In Thailand, quarantining is better than most places I would imagine, just due to the food and so many people smiling behind their masks.

One less-pleasurable place to quarantine would be in China, for example, or maybe some countries in Africa, or maybe India, even though the food in India with its vindaloos is amazingly tasty.  India has such a vast variety of different cuisines that one would not be bored for long.

There is an article written by a journalist recently concerning his experience quarantining in Thailand after returning by land from another country.  He provided mostly rave reviews of the food and the care and consideration provided by people staffing the quarantine facility.  And, after quarantining, while leaving the facility, the staff members all clapped loudly.  He felt like a celebrity.  I am sure you can find the article if you wish, just by Googling for a few clicks with your mouse.

Maybe the worst thing about quarantining in any facility is that one must relinquish one's independence and become reliant on others for all one's requirements.

Still, the author of the article I referenced above stated that the beds in place at the facility were all completely new.

Whenever I travel and must stay in a hotel, I never forget to take along my down pillow with pure silk embroidered pillowcase.

I can't sleep without it.

In order to clarify this 1.2 mg daily dose of vitamin D3, shown on the label I have attached, and on the information sent to me from Pfizer, I have sent another email.

Hopefully, we will have some clarification soon.

4800 IU per day, seems a bit excessive, but I am willing and happy to be proved wrong.

On the Centrum Silver 50+ box, the print definitely does say 1.2 mg.

On the email I received from Pfizer, it states 1.2 mg of D3 per tablet.

As has been pointed out above by another poster, that should be enough to dose a horse or something.  (Of course, unlike Groucho Marx, I ain't no horse doctor.)

It seems likely that Pfizer has made an error here, among many errors relating to Centrum Silver committed by this company in marketing the SILVER vitamin formula in Thailand.

This is ONLY my opinion.

Can anyone show me evidence that I am wrong?

Thank you.

1 hour ago, KhunBENQ said:

Was this from Pfizer Thailand?

It's exactly what a Google translate shows.

And obviously wrong. The units are shortcut in Thai (1.2  มก.).

1.2 mg = 1200 microgram = 48000 IU.

A killer.

You are exactly correct!

The data sheet sent to me by Pfizer also states 1.2 mg.

So, as you say, that would be 1200 micrograms.

Normally, a megadose of D3 which is designed to be taken about once per month contains 20,000 IU of D3.

If one were to take 48000 IU of D3 on a daily basis, and if one were not an elephant or a blue whale, then one's vitamin D3 blood serum levels would be astronomical.

Here is an image of the box label for Centrum Silver 50+

Someone pointed out that the title of this post is, in one place, "laughable".

I wholeheartedly agree.

Please just keep in mind, when comparing various vitamin labels that:

One (1) microgram = 0.001 milligrams.

In most cases, D3 is listed in micrograms.

Phizer, at least in the information sent to me in an email, uses milligrams.

Also, on the label of the packaging D3 is listed in milligrams (1.2  มก)

On the bottle, the print is so small that I can't read it without either a milliscope or a microscope.

1 hour ago, bkk6060 said:

The 10 x's cost comment is false.

But, I believe the OP is correct on the Thai brand of Centrum.

I use Centrum in my home country.  The pills are heavier and more dense and make your urine yellow.

The Thai brand does not.

I found some US Centrum in a few Pharmacies so look around.

I beg your pardon?

I just received an email from Pfizer with a list of the ingredients in CENTRUM SILVER 50+.

Among the ingredients, they state this:

But, obviously, whomever compiled this list does not know the difference between mg and mcg.  There IS a difference.  But, I guess we should not expect the chemists at Phizer to to know the difference between very basic units used in chemistry, biochemistry, and the pharmaceutical industry, Or, should we?

Also, it is an easy task to convert mcg of D3 into IU (international units).

Too make a long story short..... The product put out by Phizer called CENTRUM SILVER MEN has 1000 IU of vitamin D3.

Earlier, I stated, as I recall, approximately 10 times more, or ten times less. 

To be precise, if you insist, then 120 IU divided by 1000 IU = 0.12  (the units cancel out).

So, feel free to redo my math.

But, obviously this means that the formula Centrum Silver in Thailand has almost 10 TIMES less D3 than the Centrum Silver sold elsewhere.

Who do you think this company is fooling, anyway?

As someone pointed out, I got the decimal point in the wrong place in the title of this post....so sorry.

What I meant was: 25 mcg.

Centrum Silver Men contains 25 mcg (micrograms) of D3.  So sorry.

Note:

As we all know, much of telephony, at least these days, runs on the internet, similar to Voip.

So when the internet becomes overburdened, and I am NOT saying it is, then probably we get error messages such as NETWORK BUSY when we call certain areas.

Also, it seems to me that, during this Season of the Wuhan Virus, electronic communication infrastructure becomes critically important, especially now that we are all strictly following guidelines concerning social distancing.

I have not yet tried to call Dtac to learn why I have been receiving the NETWORK BUSY error while calling to certain areas in Chiang Mai.

(However, if these abnormal, atypical, disruptions continue to happen this week, and maybe next week, probably I will post a few instances of when these occur.)

 I must say that not being able to telephone or communicate via internet, at various times of the day, is becoming a bit frustrating, and how does one plan one's work under such conditions?

((Dtac operator stated:  "Maybe there is an electricity problem."  So, obviously, Dtac does not know the reason for the NETWORK BUSY error.  I wonder who might know?))

I am trying to buy a multivitamin containing vitamin D3 (1000 IU or 0.25 mcg per tablet)

In the USA, and elsewhere outside Thailand, Centrum Silver Men contains 1000 IU of vitamin D3.

But, according to the label for  "Centrum Silver 50+", I think that I read on the label that it contains MUCH less per tablet.

Is this true?

How much D3 in this Pfizer Produect?

The label is ONLY in Thai.  Maybe Pfizer thinks that everybody in Thailand is able to read Thai and that there are no English speakers in Thailand?

MAIN POINT:  Where can I get a multivitamin, such as Centrum Silver Men formula, containing 1000 IU of D3...at a REASONABLE price?

Pfizer seems to be charging about Bt.300 for a small bottle of 30 tablets.

This price seems about 10 times higher than prices in the USA, and maybe other countries, as well?

Need more info, please!

Thank you.

OK.  I did not want to mention the company's name because I normally get very good service from Sinet.

Monday and Tuesday, the outage lasted for many hours.

Since Wednesday, I have experienced no interruptions.

BUT, now with Dtac, I have tried calling another phone in the Chiang Mai area, near CMU.....and I continually get the error message:  NETWORK BUSY

The reason I posted this post is to try to learn if anyone knows whether or not at this time the local internet here might be getting overburdened.

When my internet is working, I have a reliable connection of 100Mbps/100Mbps with low latency of 15 (on average).

(Also, the internet interruption in Mae Rim was for users of True internet, not Sinet.)

Tks!

Has anyone else noticed recent internet-connection anomalies during the past two days in various parts of the city, including Mae Rim?

On Monday, the internet was down from about 3 PM until about 11:00 PM.  Tuesday, the internet stopped working around 2:30 PM and service was not restored until about 9 PM.

I checked with a friend living in Mae Rim, and the friend reported that the internet interruption occurred at approximately these times of day.

This interruption seems unrelated to any specific internet provider.

On Monday, I did receive a text message from my provider stating that there was "damage to the fiber cable", and that they would try to repair the damage and restore service "within the day".

However, yesterday, the interruption raised its ugly head again, alas.

Does anyone know anything more about this situation?

I need to use the internet in the afternoons, particularly.  And it is during the afternoons that these interruptions seem to begin.

Any input regarding this situation would be welcome and enlightening to many, probably.

1 hour ago, Moonlover said:

Yes I did. Which is why I'm very glad that I chose the village life for my retirement years. My life here has hardly been affected at all by Covid and it's always quiet. Another bonus is the that we have clean air year round.

 

Enjoy it whilst you can. ????

 

Where, exactly?  Please.

An alcohol ban in Chiang Mai from April 10th through April 30?  This amount of time doesn't seem nearly long enough to do any good.

Typical drinking behavior is not conducive to maintaining proper social distancing behavior, which is crucial during this season of the virus.

These days, all the refrigerated display cases in shops are filled with nothing but soft drinks and juice of various colors and flavors.

I like the new look.

Maybe the ban on alcohol will be extended until July 1st, or maybe not.

We will just wait and see.

Well then, what would happen if one cannot get a new passport in time, due to the virus, but needs a new passport in order to apply for a retirement visa extension for a year?

Well...

Does anybody know if the service will resume no later than the end of June, 2020?

I can wait until June.

But I can't wait until the end of July.

So....what are the odds, please?

Yes.  However, I am also afraid that If I do not find the right place, even though I might escape Prasert Land, then I might end up in a place where there are workers who raise chickens and roosters.  The roosters are even worse than Prasert Land.  The roosters here do not know how to tell time, and they crow almost constantly.

There MUST be a quiet place near here.  It is just a matter of how much you are willing to pay.  RIght?

I do not mind the air pollution, but when you add on rising seas to the noise from Prasert Land, then it becomes too much.

Much of our world will be devastated by sea level rise, very soon.

And, so, I just ask for a bit of peace and quiet before the water inundates us.

Please refer to this NYT article, for example:  https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/10/29/climate/coastal-cities-underwater.html