Chrisroundtheworld

On 5/7/2021 at 10:42 PM, Phillip9 said:

 

There is no covid test requirement to transit dubai if you are departing from thailand, so you will only have to meet the US testing requirement of an antigen or pcr test if flying from BKK to the USA and transiting dubai.  Same with Qatar.  I don't know about JAL or korean.

 

 

https://www.emirates.com/us/english/help/covid-19/

 

Here's a question:

If I fly from Thailand to a country with no pcr test requirement (such as albania) with emirates, and the only stop is in dubai, would I need a negative pcr test to board the plane in bangkok?

Do you have a source on hotel quarantining for positive cases? (as opposed to people being sent to field hospitals).

If even one third of the population of Thailand was tested for the virus, and every positive PCR case was sent to a field hospital, all the beds would fill immediately (most likely). 

The more they test, the more cases there will be, and if they require every asymptomatic person to be in a bed, they will never be able to keep up.  It's inevitable that there will be a tipping point and the system won't be able to sustain what is going on. 

Most countries couldn't even consider the idea of putting every single positive person in a quarantine bed.  It's simply not feasible given the enormous case numbers in most countries.  

The only way they can keep this up is if they just don't test that many people.   

why can't people just go to asq hotels?

So for people coming in, they go to an asq hotel, but if you want to leave, you go to a giant open air facility where you'll be breathing in the air of tons of people with all kinds of variants. 

This makes no real sense.

Of course you won't be allowed on the plane, so presumably you'll be sent to a field hospital.

My question is, once you go to a field hospital, a hospitel or whatever, what is the best insurance?

So, let's say you're planning to leave Thailand for a flight, you have to get a pcr test, and it ends up being positive.

What is the best insurance plan to get for the worst case scenario?  Will it cover a field hospital and a hospitel?  I've read that the price for a 14 day stay at a hospitel is 150,000 baht.  Will any insurance cover that?

I'm starting to regret not leaving Thailand sooner.   These field hospitals are frightening, especially if you're someone who is asymptomatic, hasn't been going out to clubs, have been taking care of yourself with proper diet and supplements, wearing masks, using hand sanitizers, etc.  

Will they even allow you to bring supplements in such as vitamin d, zinc, c, fish oil, and multivitamins or will they confiscate all your belongings?

Is there any news on the actual penalty for not going to a field hospital?

Did you show a fit to fly certificate or just the pcr test result at the airport?

The antigen test apparently is less likely to produce a false positive.

Reading and watching the news in Bangkok recently they are setting up field hospitals.  So if you get a positive test you're stuck in a makeshift hospital in bed next to a bunch of other people who are infected to varying degrees.  It looks like a nightmare.  Many countries allow you to self quarantine at home.  Not Thailand. 

10 hours ago, BLACKJACK2 said:

I flew out last Sunday, AirFrance Paris to Italy. You don't need a PCR test to enter Italy from Thailand but just for my piece of mind I got one. At check-in I showed her my documents and she said come with me, took me over to talk with another man. He was trying to explain that he didn't need a PCR test and I agreed with him but they said your not getting on this plane without one. Never say him on the subsequent flights.

Where did you get tested and how much did it cost?

Also, did you have any form of medical insurance? 

I'll make a few calls to certain airlines this week but it does seem that you have to have a pcr test to board a flight in Bangkok, even if it's flight to a country that doesn't require a pcr test.   

If that is the case, then getting a solid health insurance plan that covers the countries I plan on visiting (and thailand of course) and then getting the pcr test sounds like the best option. 

Well, I've called 1422 several times listening to the waiting music.

Nothing happens.

The longest I stayed on hold was 45 minutes, then I just gave up. 

So I have no idea what happens if you get a positive pcr test, even if you're asymptomatic, which many young people are

when they get the disease. 

So I was at a hospital the other day, I'm thinking of flying out of Thailand.

I asked a doctor, she said if I have positive PCR test I'd face 28 days of quarantine.

Also according to the US Embassy website, it's about 3000 usd, or 100,00k baht

The official Thai number for this is 1422..

Thai Department of Disease Control hotline for information on COVID-19 testing facilities by dialing 1422 from within Thailand.  A list of medical establishments, laboratories, and professionals in Bangkok, central Thailand, southern Thailand, and northeastern Thailand can be found here.  You can find a list for Chiang Mai and northern Thailand here.  The U.S. Embassy cannot provide this testing.

U.S. citizens will be required to pay for COVID-19 testing and any COVID-19 care.  The COVID-19 test can cost between 2,500 and 10,000 Thai baht.  It is often more expensive to be tested at a private hospital.  In the event of a positive COVID-19 test result, there are reports of treatment costing over 100,000 Thai baht.  The Thai government requires individuals who test positive for COVID-19 in Thailand to be quarantined at specific hospitals and patients will be responsible for related expenses.

https://th.usembassy.gov/health-alert-u-s-embassy-bangkok-thailand-january-15-2021/

I just tried calling 1422, you press 9 for english but the hold time was long. 

Does anyone have any experience or knowledge of people who are trying to get OUT of thailand but had a positive pcr test?

I will call the line again tomorrow and update this thread.

Any experience or knowledge in this area would be greatly appreciated.

Once again this is not to be confused with people entering Thailand covid free, which I believe is 11 days. 

If it's true that the people leaving Thailand face a 100,000 baht find and 28 days I've quarantine I would like to confirm that. 

Thanks.

Chris

I went to MTT k counter on the 28th (my under consideration date after going on in on the 14th with paperwork and money).

I got stamped to Dec 30th.

And that's what they told me was going to happen on the 14th.

I know someone who did their covid amnesty extension at the k counter of muang thong thani after the date and they were fine, as long as it is before the 31st of October.

I also asked an immigration officer about my under consideration return date they said any time on or after that date (october 28th) and before the 31st.

I did not apply for the extension prior to September 26.

I will go into MTT this week, and get an under consideration stamp for some time later this month to return.

My curiosity is this: 

When I go back on or after my "under consideration" date, will I get to November 30th?  or December 30th? 

Sounds like the longer I wait to go back the second time to finalize the extension, the more likely I'll get the Dec 30th mark stamped in. 

Once again, I was referring specifically to covid extensions not other types. 

I meant in reference particularly to the covid extensions (which seem to be the vast majority currently), not for other types of extensions. 

I'll give it a few more days to see what's going on.  On another thread there are pictures of passports with the dec 30th date, but those are probably not from MTT. 

I'm fine with november 30th, and I want to get it over with and avoid the late month crowding, but I'll stand on the sidelines just a little longer and see if anyone from MTT gets the Dec 30th (not likely next week). 

The other thing I don't understand is the "under consideration" stamp, which requires you to come back and leads to even more crowding.  What exactly are they considering?  Especially when you come in with an embassy letter, and all the appropriate documentation. 

Is some actually looking over  your paperwork during that period? Sounds like it's just a pointless loophole they make you jump through since it see appears that everyone who gets "under consideration" gets the extension. 

I'm curious to see the reports of people next week going in for extensions to see if the 60 day starting in November becomes standard in Muang Thong Thani, or if it will remain as it currently is with the consideration stamp and the november 30th date.

I did not go prior to September 26th so we'll so how it goes when I do decide to go in.  

Well, since it doesn't seem entirely official as of now. 

I guess I'll wait until next week to see if this 60 day visa starting November 1st comes into fruition.

If the 60 day November amnesty does occur, that means that we can stay in Thailand under Covid amnesty until essentially JANUARY 1st??

Well, on the appointment booking site it says the k-counter is for extensions, and I also want to do an extension.  Perhaps I can book an appointment there next week, do the transfer of visa stamps to the new passport, and then also get the "under consideration" extension process going since I plan on staying in Thailand into November for sure. 

I'll just wait for embassy letter on the new passport (for extending under covid circumstances).  I already have the embassy letter for transfer of visa stamps from the lost passport.