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3 hours ago, ShindenGo said:

They’re just desperate and grasping for air. Joe Biden has more energy and resolve to heal the race wars caused by Trump. When Biden is elected we’ll finally be able to free our black brothers and sisters from over 400 years of enslavement and oppression. We’ll be able to uplift our brothers and sisters in the LatinX community to finally be fully fledged American citizens !  This is what at stake and Joe Biden can achieve all. We need to Better Build Back

 

#BLACKLIVESMATTER

#GOJOE2020

???????? Deluded much.? 

Perhaps you could explain why creepy Joe hasn't bothered to do this in his previous 48 years in the senate. 

Particularly as he had the perfect opportunity as vice president for 8 years. 

48 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

This is the kind of dogmatic, myopic nonsense that gets people riled up. 
He’s the President of The United States for gods sake not just some guy down the pub. His words carry weight and consequences; he can either help a situation or make it a great deal worse and his “opinion” on this matter is obviously and very purposely throwing fuel on the fire. 
A correct response to this would have been along the lines of “I’m sure the American justice system will prevail and determine the fate of this young man.... in the meantime I would like to call for calm and reason .....blah, blah”

You all love his straight talking; I wonder how much you will love it when the whole country is involved in a race war just because he couldn’t be presidential. 

That's a good post and I agree with most of what you say. I think many of his supporters wish he would be a little more presidential at times. 

There are also many of his supporters that are sick to death of lying two faced politicians that say one thing and do the opposite.

There is also the point that maybe, just maybe almost four years of constant vilification and outright hostility from the msm, no matter what he does, takes its toll. 

It is also disingenuous to blame any race war solely at Trumps door. 

Blm, the Democrats and especially the Msm have to shoulder much of the blame. 

43 minutes ago, The Barmbeker said:

Such reasoned intelligent argument, a dummy sucking emoji. 

And the Liberal left have the gall to call Trump supporters thick. 

????????

8 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Interesting article...   Unfortunately, under the circumstances, the article doesn't even seem to broach one of the first questions I would have wanted to have answered and ask the racist guy they clearly interviewed -- which is how exactly did the two of them end up being together in Kenosha? 

 

Did Rittenhouse respond to some kind of an online call-out by militia type groups? Did they end up together just by chance?  Something else... It would seem more than just an odd coincidence that rifle boy happened to end up with this particular type of character.

 

Try to piece together some of the clues, it's really not that difficult to comprehend. 

Cities and some suburbs in America have now endured over 90 days of Anarchy, looting, Arson and extreme violence. I think you call it "peaceful protesting". 

Understandably, civilised people with even a modicum of sanity, have had enough of seeing their livelihoods, neighbourhoods and country, being washed down the toilet, by brain dead anarchists and criminals. 

Across America civilians in their hundreds of thousands are arming themselves and forming groups or " militia" to protect said businesses and property. 

Which is what Kyle Rittenhouse was doing on the night his life turned upside down, because 3 criminal scum were determined to cause him either injury or death. 

There, fixed it for ya. 

11 hours ago, watthong said:

 

Let me keep this simple: Kyle Rittenshouse was there to have the chance to play out his cop-fantasy ie keeping law and order - and to use his ammo to great effect ie killing and maiming. His saying that he was there to protect people's property was his excuse, his medic pack was his decoy and unfortunately the local police was his allies.

 

Anybody thinks that he was being attacked by a mob and needed to defend himself conveniently disregards the context of the incident. The crowd realized that there was a live shooter in their midst who had just killed somebody and therefore tried to subdue him.  They did not use guns on him. Otherwise, the injured victim could have shot him when Kyle was still rolling on the ground if that were his initial intention since this person had a gun - but he didn't.

 

There are people who try to use any reason to defend the shooter/murderer, as per the quote above. Those are too FAR GONE (including and especially Trump and his MAGA crowd) as far as humanity is concerned and are not worth the time or energy invested in a rational discussion. Let's save our energy and precious brainpower to keep these creatures from creating further havoc in our lives. First and foremost, do not engage in reasoning with them, it's a waste of your time. It's like arguing with a fool, all they want to do - and can do - is to drag you down to their level, so don't play into their hand. If you haven't seen the movie "Invasion of the Bodysnatchers"  then now is a good time to subscribe to a movie streaming venue. Stay strong and speak out. Maintain your sanity, your dignity and above all your humanity. Only 2 more months to go under this nutcase's administration. 
 

Wow, I don't know if you realise it, but you are a one man crime buster. 

Who needs detectives, or courts of law, when we could just have you sitting in judgement. No need to look at facts or take statements from eye witnesses. 

Just call in watthong, he'll nail it with one question "are you or are you not, a Trump supporter",,,,, erm yes, " I knew it, guilty as charged, take him away and kill him". 

The return of the Spanish inquisition. 

I bet you call yourself an anti - fascist as well don't you.? 

42 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

The more I read the posts by the Trump excusers the more I realise just how screwed up the USA really is.  I made an agreement with my American friends never to discuss American politics since Trump was elected.  They say it is just too embarrassing.

Aww schocks go on give it a go. 

Give us thick, knuckle dragging, Trump supporters the benefit of your political insight. 

But please no orange man bad, orange man lies narrative, we've heard it all before. 

Some cold hard facts detailing the disasterous three and half years, Trump has been president, would be nice. 

Away you go.! 

12 minutes ago, Sujo said:

That police need re training.

You've got me. Please explain how 90 days of civil unrest ( Arson, looting, violence) equates to the police need retraining. 

5 hours ago, polpott said:

Because it happened hours after the McCloskeys appeared on TV, virtue signalling that its OK for vigilantes to shoot protesters.

Using your own logic. 

What message is sent, when almost 90 days of Arson, looting, intimidation and violence is seen nightly on TV screens. 

1 hour ago, Logosone said:

No. There is no "lack of clarity" at all. A BLM mob had smashed through the gates of a gated community with the aim of marching onto the private residence of mayor Lyda Krewson’s house in order to "protest racial injustice", in other words to intimidate mayor Krewson at her private residence to conform to their political demands. They were on private property and they were trespassing. If you buy a house in a housing development in the US you also get ownership, through a management company, of "common parts" for which the homeowners also pay upkeep. The BLM mob had damaged the gate, poured through onto private property, including the common areas for which the homeowners all paid upkeep. Even if the mob did not invade the house of the McCloskeys or their garden, the mob was trespassing, on property which the McCloskeys paid to keep up and which they co-owned. Even the sidewalk the protesters were on was private property, and common area paid for by all homeowners. As was the gate, which the BLM mob damaged.

 

I do not think it is an act of "total stupidity" to show that you are armed and willing to defend yourself if a violent mob  (and they were violent as they showed when they damaged the gate) pours into your private gated housing development in an act of trespassing which shows they are willing to break the law. Yes, you're right, of course there was a risk it could have escalated if there had been a full altercation with both sides using guns, however, the situation had already escalated, a large violente mob had broken the law and trespassed private property located directly next to the house of the McCloskeys. Anyone who has ever witnessed a mob and is familiar with mob dynamics knows that is a dangerous situation and that it is quite possible that the fear instilled by seeing the two  armed people in fact was the key sobering wake-up and dissuaded the mob from further violence.

 

In that situation normal logic is prone to take a leave of absence anyway, as the McCloskeys were justifiably terrified of this large violent mob. Clearly what they did worked. The guns had a sobering influence on the mob who decided to desist from their illegal actions and instead decided to beat a retreat.

 

What we are seeing is how the left and the very extreme left have harnessed violence and intimidation in the political discourse in the US. This mob came to this private gated housing development with one aim: To intimidate Lyda Krewson. And the reason was not just legitimate political protest against "racial injustice". The real reason was that Lyda Krewson had published the names of all those who had sent letters calling for the St. Louis police to be "defunded". The mob wanted to go to her house to intimidate her at her private home. On a private property.

 

Legitimate political protest does not take place in your opponents home or on their garden or their property. It takes places in public places. This mob was not in a public place. It had invaded a private place. With the aim to intimidate and bully Lyda Krewson to do what the extreme left wanted, to defund the police.

 

So it should be very clear, given what we have all seen in the last few weeks, that it is in fact the extreme left which has no qualms about introducing violence, destruction, harrassment and bullying into political discourse in the USA. This mob was violent, it destroyed the private gate and was trespassing on private property with the aim of harrassing and bullying Lyda Krewson to conform to their extreme leftist agenda, to defund the police.

 

This is the pernicious, sly and underhand distortion of reality by the left, they accuse Trump of being the violent dictator, yet all along it is in fact the extreme left that has, for weeks and weeks now, used violence to harrass, bully and torment their political opponents into doing what they want. 

 

And when a violent mob violently breaks a gate, breaks the law by trespassing with the sole aim of bullying and harrassing the female mayor of St. Louis, not only do we have people defending this here, we have Kimberley Gardner, the Circuit Attorney of St Louis, who is a prominent supporter of BLM with strong political ambitions, in fact prosecuting the McCloskeys for a felony of "unlawful use of weapons" which carries a 4 year prison term. Not the violent mob, who broke the gate, broke the law by trespassing with the sole aim of harrassing a resident there and bully her to conform politically, ie the very people who precipitated and caused the situation. No. They go completely free and blameless. However, the McCloskeys are prosecuted for a felony by a prominent BLM supporter and would be politician in search of votes. When it was in fact the mob that started the violence.

 

So that is where we have come in the US, the extreme left not only introducing violence, breaking the law, and destruction of private property and harrassment of political officials in their private home into political discourse, but then vote-hungry Circuit Attorneys who are left-leaning themselves actually prosecute people who defend themselves without firing a shot, ie acting reasonably whilst leaving the violent mob who caused everything go free. 

 

It is absolutely scandalous what is happening in the US.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Superb post and summation of events. 

It beggars belief, that the Democrats ( an oxymoron if ever there was one) and their supporters, really think that almost 90 days of violence, arson, looting, intimidation and murder, will result in middle Americans voting for them in droves, is beyond parody. 

All they have is hatred and divisiveness. 

Unify the nation, pull the other one.! 

Anyone else heard the screams of MSN, and Democrat outrage over the murder of Cannon Hinnant, a 5 year old boy shot in the head from point blank range. 

No, neither have I, doesn't fit the narrative. 

1 hour ago, Sujo said:

They really put the lies on turbo today. I dont think Pam Bondi said anything truthful at all in her speech.

That's right, every single statement at the gop convention is a lie, especially if its Trump. 

Whereas the Dems only spoke the truth. 

Jeez, you people are something else. 

Tell me have you ever visited planet earth.? 

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

Look like UK anti-terrorism police on patrol. So far as I know in the UK Police with lethal weapons do not confront protestors.

That's right, in the UK they go down on one knee to them. Unless of course they are veterans protecting statues, or members of the public walking their dog on the moors, or a child playing in his front garden. 

Then it's the full force of the law. 

3 hours ago, rcummings said:

The post office corporation is by its charter supposed to be different. So much so that political appointees of Trump aren't even supposed to be in meetings with members of the board. Mnuchin got around this by meeting with each member separately. They had hired a headhunting firm to come up with candidates. Instead they appointed someone with obvious and huge financial conflicts  who is also heavily involved in Trump's re-election

Nine of the members of the board are appointed by the president, who then get together and appoint a tenth member to become ceo. 

The ten then vote in an 11th member as Deputy governor. 

Please explain how that is a non political appointment. 

5 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

It seems you are the top expert who knows it all.

Forget about all those other experts who do that for a living.

I close my case. With some people it does not make any sense to try to convince them with facts.

I don't profess to being an expert, where have I claimed that.? 

Equally, all I have heard from you is your stated opinion that mail in voting fraud is non existent. 

I'm waiting with bated breath for your usual opinion piece from the guardian. Lol. That bastion of truth and facts that everyone that isn't a paid up lefty, laughs at. 

It has readership of under 100,000, most of which work at the BBC, the other mouthpiece of left wing drivel. 

4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

It's not, that's the whole point.

Only Trump tells his supporters it is a problem. Experts and statistics show it's no problem at all.

And just in case fraud is a problem then make sure to solve that problem so that democracy can work the way it's supposed to work.

You seem to have a problem reading. If it is such a problem for someone to vote in person, Apply for an absentee ballot, where I. d. Is required to apply for a ballot. 

Surely you want a free and fair election, after all, the party you support has been banging on about foreign interference in your election for more than 3 years. 

I say again, mass postal voting is ripe for fraud. 

Anyone that disagrees with that is either being disingenuous or expecting their party to benefit from the fraud. 

Which are you.? 

On 8/22/2020 at 12:24 AM, Tug said:

Well I watched part of his interview he won’t return sorting machines to service he won’t return drop boxes ripped out straight up lied about the overtime issue denies talking to donald and minuchin has his money grubbing mitts in this fiasco this group of grifters needs to be removed no doubt about it

During obamas second term, he had 12000 - 14000 mailboxes removed and not replaced. Can I assume you were suitably outraged on that occasion.? 

On 8/21/2020 at 4:49 PM, johnnybangkok said:

Proof indeed of a political appointment. One of Trumps many. 

Of course in his eight years in the White House, the Great Obama never once appointed anyone for their political affiliation.

On 8/22/2020 at 6:59 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

If mail in voting is such a risk then improve it. Don't make it more difficult.

The want to be shining sample democracy should spend money to make sure all votes from all people are counted in time.

They should guarantee that everybody can vote safely.

But instead Trump does the opposite and the spineless GOP politicians still support him.

The world is watching and seeing the USA for what it is: Be best democracy money can buy.

What you mean like absentee voting whereby you make a request for a ballot using I.d, that's a good idea.

If it's no problem running round the streets protesting, rioting and looting. 

If it's no problem standing cheek to jowel whilst painting murals on the street. 

If it's no problem standing in line at wal mart. 

Why is it a problem to stand in line at a polling station, After all Trump has been such a disaster for America, the election result is a foregone conclusion, cnn, msnbc, and NY times polls predict it. 

They couldn't possibly be fake could they.? 

Mass mail in voting is rife for fraud. 

In the UK where I am from, it is well known amongst a certain demographic. We even had the scenario of students boasting that they voted twice on fakebook. 

Funnily enough it always seems to benefit the party of the left. 

If it means that much to you to get rid of Trump, get down the polling Station and vote. But only once, that's called democracy.