Billybaroo

12 hours ago, fusion58 said:

I thought they did away with this requirement?

 

Why are they bringing it back now, and where the hell am I supposed to get one?

It's basically the COE, with a one-day reservation in a government sponsored hotel. That was predictable. 

I believe reopening after November 1st in the designated districts (eg. Bangkok) is WITHOUT quarantine. 

The reports are the infection rates are due to workers, not vaccinated tourists. Geez

 "A good proportion of people having had two shots of vaccine is not guaranteed to bring infection rates down, as has been seen in America and European countries."

Is he actually looking at the numbers in the US. Infection rates are down in areas with higher proportions of the population receiving vaccinations versus areas with low vaccination rates. 

12 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

So it's a sandbox buffet. First Phuket and then expanding all over the country, but the scheme is the still the same: you're stuck in one location for 14 days and hotels.

 Exactly. You can't properly open up tourism and businesses (it's all trickle down economics in large part from tourism) unless the measures to lockdown tourists after arrival for more than 2 days is abandoned.  I would come from the US, be double (likely triple) vaxed, have health insurance, be tested before I leave the US, tested again when entering Thailand and on lockdown for 2 days. There is NO science, with all of the aforementioned criteria, that supports a prison sentence in a government hotel for 14 days. The government logic of, everyone is safer after 14 days of lockdown is illogical. I could travel after 14 days, and still be as likely to catch and spread COVID-19 as I was after 2 days; which is very low in either instance. 

On 9/1/2021 at 8:34 AM, Golden Triangle said:

And why wouldn't one require vaccination  ??

  Is vaccination required in Thailand? 

11 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

 

"There's this fallacy which many people seem to believe: I'm vaccinated so I cannot contract the virus.

 

This was the day 6/7 test?

 

Probably a false-positive, but you could have contracted the virus during your travel to HKT?"

11 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

It's also possible from the accounting of pain from the test, that is was not done correctly and resulted in an "inconclusive" result. My buddy had a similar experience on his recent trip to Hawaii, but was allowed to enter after the test was deemed not evidence of infection. 

 

 

 

11 hours ago, tonray said:

The vaccination program is in progress ..those outside of red areas will soon have theirs too.  

 The issue is that if one doesn't REQUIRE vaccination there will be less desire or need to GET vaccinated

"Since February 28th, a total of 30,420,507 doses of vaccines have been administered across the country."

Assuming generously 15 million people being fully vaccinated, that is more that 20% of the population of Thailand. What vaccines are those? 

On 7/26/2021 at 3:37 PM, kimamey said:

Which is more than you need if you're coming from inside the country so that suggests that maybe foreigners aren't the problem.

 Precisely. If I travel to Thailand, I will be double dosed with Pfizer, passed a 72 hour COVID PCR test, have insurance, and get re-tested in Thailand. Why I would need to quarantine for 14 days defies science. 

12 hours ago, JonnyF said:

What gains? Covid has rocketed since the restrictions were put in place. Largely because many don't follow them and nobody really enforces them. So in effect, you have the worst of all worlds - you get all the negative outcomes (economic meltdown) without the positive outcomes (minimal cases) that a real lockdown would produce.

 

If they're not going to enforce rules properly and leave wet markets, construction sites etc. open then you may as well loosen the restrictions so at least people can get some exercise at the beach, sit down for a meal outside and allow people to support themselves financially.

 

Just grow a pair and make a decision - do one or the other. Not some halfway house, middle road nonsense that drags on forever and helps nobody.   

   That's not entirely true. While I believe lockdown measures should remain in place in part, in California pre-vaccine, we opened up with strict mask and social distancing restrictions and reduced infection rates. But, the infection rate also has a time component, so numbers declining now are a greater reflection of stricter measures imposed weeks ago. It took a month or more in California to see the effects of mandatory mask and social distancing measures for indoor environments. The trick in Thailand seems to be compliance and not whether measures to reduce infection spread will work in a decision to re-open indoor facilities. 

11 hours ago, steven100 said:

those dirty farang

  Except, the requirement for foreigners entering Thailand, even if you have residency there, is that one shows proof of vaccination and a negative COVID-19 test within 72 hours of departure from your home country. 

   If countries want tourism to return, then mandatory 14-day quarantines at the state sponsored, expensive hotels has to end. The only way you can potentially accomplish that outcome is with a vaccine, and a vaccine that limits spread. 

On 11/23/2020 at 6:52 PM, sweetserenity said:

I really hope it wont be mandatory to be vaccinated in order to visit thailand the first year at least... 

16 hours ago, WillyPlatt said:

A vaccine is anything but a certainty.

So what's plan B? Close your borders?

No problem. All tourist areas will become wastelands.

 I travel from the US to see friends bi-annually, and that statement seems to be the dagger on travel for at least the next year. 

I definitely don't anticipate the UK or the US being allowed to enter Thailand this year...maybe longer. 

14 hours ago, JCP108 said:

I'm still here. But, I have to travel to the U.S. soon for family matters. What would have been a temporary trip now has become moving back with no notion of when/if I can return to Thailand. Bummer. 

 A sensible plan may be submitting a health certificate for testing COVID19 free before departure at an airport. International airlines require masks throughout trips and in airports. The question is what forum of proof would the Thai government require?