Petey11

Think what a lot of people are overlooking is the number and type of vaccination. It is becoming clear now that two shot vaccine has less efficacy against Omicron than 3 shot and also Thailand has mix and matched it's vaccines on double doses or two Sinovac and one AZ. Pretty sure Oxford stated that vaccine like Sinovac does not protect with Omicron and even 2 shot AZ did not fare well. Even Bojo said a lot of people going to hospital in UK only had the 2 shot and no booster. Time will tell if this is the case in Thailand.

Read a few articles along those lines in UK. They are leaning toward the thinking that the nasal only swab kits are not picking up the infection until quite late as Omicron manifests itself in the throat rapidly. Saying throat and nasal swabs combined are better at detecting Omicron.

'Increase the isolation beds and rooms because the dirty farang are coming' is what he means.

Not the alcohol, it's the environment it's consumed in.

Carry on as usual then, only recommendations.

He hasn't read the world news for a few days so he is a bit behind on up to date info I think.

He says 5th wave sweeping through Thailand, how do they know with just 3-4k case a day reported or are they hiding something in the reported figures?

Telling people to do ATK going do jack if they don't report them. Thai rules on quarantine by state do nothing to encourage people to report covid unless they are I'll enough to seek medical attention. They haven't a clue on the true situation.

Maybe the peasantry syndrome. The government hit it's 100million target, big fanfare, haven't we done well, photo shoot and speech and maybe now it's move along, forget about that now.

Of other countries tested same amount as Thailand the world figures would be looking much better now.

But the story states "after infection found in 10 tourists" who have to test as part of their entry requirements after so many days. Doubt there was much testing going on of locals before they were discovered. Just look at daily case figures, majority of cases, in fact nearly all are from walk-ins still so not much proactive testing going on I believe.

Looks good though, a sort of "we are doing something to stop this virus, look it's all clean and virus gone from road". In my opinion it's all BS. Carry out useless cleaning propaganda stunts at what cost which looks good but reluctant to test publicly because they know it will look bad. Nearly all of the official counted PCR lately have been from walk-ins so shows that officially they are not looking for it, only using ATK where they have to because those figures are not officially counted in the world stats. And as for the "restaurant" rules does anyone believe that every premise is checking customers, highly unlikely and you can bet a lot of the staff infections are going unreported too.

300 ATK a week, what's that 2 test a week for 150 tourists, high expectations, how many for staff testing?

To the covid Vs road death, you can't catch a road accident , they're not infectious, but yes, more should be done to educate drivers and enforce laws. Safety helmet is prime, farang not wearing one, pull and ticket (happened to myself several times), Thai, don't worry.

Wasn't a lot of places closed down just before Xmas last year?

I know of infected persons, at least 2 thinking it's ok to pop down 7 eleven or go and grab some take out food. I personally had a yakking at them. This is the problem with home isolation, not only in Thailand but everywhere.

Think we all know that's not happening at the majority of "restaurants".

Are there any bars left to open, all restaurants now by the looks of it.

Looks like they've capped PCR. test as well, almost flat for 6 days now.

One reason I haven't returned yet, not worried about covid, it's the consequences of a positive test plus you have to go through the same worry to return home for flight. Bet there's a few tourists sweating in Pattaya about getting their PCR for return flight home.

Someone I know who had it, Delta or Omicron not sure because no PCR, from positive ATK to negative 9 days, day 7 still positive but then everyone who catches will be different.

Think everyone knows you cannot stop it. It's about stopping health systems becoming stretched and over run. Like a dam, hold the water back and control the release and rivers below are controlled. Open the dam or it collapses and rivers below flood and cause damage. Time will tell if lack of testing in Thailand is the correct approach, just watch the hospital numbers over the next few weeks. If they are manageable then Thailand got it right.

70% vaccinated with one jab? You need 2 or 3 by reports to provide good protection from Omicron. This could be the problem approaching in Thailand. Girlfriend had it and was definitely not a cold according to her, she said "I don't want u get COVID, it not good". One jab Sinovac and one jab AZ about 2 months ago.

Schools should, in my opinion, be the very last places to close down, after bars, restaurants and all non essential shops/services have been shut and time given to see the effects those closures have.

From Pattaya news yesterday on story about Omicron in Banglumung becoming the dominant variant. ATK at 211, one has to wonder how many more ATK went unreported. https://thepattayanews.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/270607899_2219564764862008_9100291206515762058_n-1024x587.jpg