gpt

papakapbaan, you seem to do more somersaults than a Chinese acrobat, you say one thing and in your next post deny it and do a complete 360. You did say that 7/17 was for a thai supporting a non-Thai parent, the Thai does not need a visa. You did not answer the point about a foreign child is in a different section and still insist that 7/17 covers this. You have posted on numerous occassions that there is no provision for any kind of support in the new regulations but your last post was peppered with the word 'support'.

As I said, i have axe to grind but, I think, unless you have definitive proof that you should not be spreading mis-information.That is my last word on the subject and I will leave this forum to those who think that they are always right even when they are wrong. I now go into self-imposed exile.

I have no children here, my wife and I don't want any and I am over 50 so why am I wasting my time posting on this topic?

Maestro, papakapbaan and Sunbelt have set themselves up as 'experts' and that their interpretation is right and correct. Papakapbaan stated in post number 12 that

"Yes, 7.17 (5) pertains to parents, indeed, being supported not doing the supporting. Alas!

There is no more child support provision. (support of a THAI child)

In other words:

Thai children can support Farang parents above 50. (!)"

The left hand column is for who can apply for a visa and the middle column states conditions Papakapbaan's quote in bold looks as if his interpretation of the law means that the Thai who is supporting an over 50 parent needs a visa! Thais do not need visas for Thailand. There are other avenues for the over 50's. He also states that the provisions in 7/17 refer to a foreign child - please see 7/19.

Has anyone under 50 and with a Thai child received (or been refused) an extension based on 7/1? Are you all taking the advice of Maestro, papakapbaan and Sunbelt as the only interpretation?

Quote my posts. but by all means, but do hot highlight the wrong sentence.

i read the rules as over 50 refering to the person being supported. pattaya immigrations site seems a bit easier to understand.

I am not quite sure what you are trying to say.

The text on the web page you quote looks the same to me as the other English translations. It says, in essence, if the foreigner applying for the reason of wanting to live with a family member of Thai nationality and if this foreigner is a parent (of the Thai national he/she wants to live with) then this foreigner must be at least 50 years old.

Incidentally, there is no mention of “support” or “supporting” in this rule. For applications under 7.17(5), no evidence is required that the Thai child is supporting his/her foreign parent. It is about the foreign parent living with his Thai child. Whether the parent supports the child, the child supports the parent, or neither supports the other does not enter into the equation.

The Pattaya translation does seem a little more intelligible, though, because it uses “parent” instead of “father or mother”. (Apparently, the Thai language does not have a single word for “parent”, which explains the other English translations’ use of “father or mother”, a more literal translation from Thai)

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Maestro

Why would a Thai child supporting his/her foreign parent(s) need a visa?

Care to clarify gpt ?

"The Thai translation refers to 'the child of his/her spouse, Sunbelt put it differently - child of the marriage (sic) couple. "

There is no Thai translation only an English translation of a Thai document.

Sunbelt translation - Sunbelt's translatiom of Thai Police Order 606/2549

Thai translation - Immigration's translation of Thai Police Order 606/2549

Sunbelt and Maestro, I believe that you are both wrong. 7/17 is about supporting a spouse, a child or a parent (of your Thai partner).

The Thai translation refers to 'the child of his/her spouse, Sunbelt put it differently - child of the marriage (sic) couple. What do you think 'child of his/her spouse' refers to? It does not refer to your child as this is already covered but to your partner's child from a previous relationship/marriage.

Again, following the Thai translation, conditions (1) & (6), the Thai wording is 'alien' when referring to the applicant. The word 'alien' is absent from (5)

You cannot get a visa on the grounds of supporting your Thai partner but if you are supporting their over 50 parent, then you can apply on these grounds.

If you apply for the first time after Oct 1st 2006

The only extension of stay based on having a Thai child for one year is if you are over 50 years old.

www.sunbeltasiagroup.com

Where in the regulations does it state this? Let's go with your translation of the regulations - I won't comment on your rather obvious mistake in 7/17 (4)

Conditions (1) and (2) and joined with 'and' which means that both conditions must be met. I will leave the 'and' between (2) and (3) for a moment. Conditions (3) to (5) are joined with 'or' which signifies that only one of the conditions must be met. So to qualify, you must meet conditions 1 & 2 plus one of the following 3.

I would agree with you if (4) ended with 'and' and (5) started with 'If you are the mother or father of the child then you shall not be younger than 50 years of age.

Try the Children's Discovery Museum http://www.thailandguidebook.com/childrensmuseum.html

They may be too young for the Planetarium http://www.sci-educ.nfe.go.th/Sci-Web/englishP.html

Other suggestions - crocodile farm and elephant show, snake farm and don't forget the sky train but not in the rush hour!

Phone a taxi company the day before and pre-book a 7 seater Thai Rung taxi or Toyota Innova. Tell them what you will be wearing and give them a code word (to stop anyone else pinching 'your' taxi) and also which exit you will be waiting at. Some companies use the 7 seat Suzuki APV but I don't recommend them.

Here is an example of how I feel directions should be written, (to a ficticious place):

"Go out the front door, turn to your left, which is heading West, which is towards the beach. Continue down about 2 kilometers, which is about 4 minutes driving, where you see a 7-11 on your right side. Slowly continue straight, and go past the 7-11 about 150 meters, and TURN left on to the first small soi. Stay on that soi, as it curves around for about 6 minutes, until you see a large outdoor nursery/plant store, which will be on your right. Immediately after the plant store, at the intersection, you will see several streets that fork out. Don't go to the two heading left, don't go on the one heading a sharp right. Go on the one, in the middle, which is heading just slightly to the right. Stay on that soi for ONLY 10 meters. On your left, you will see an ESSO gas station. Turn into the first driveway, just PAST the gas station, also on the left side. You've found it!"

"as it curves around for about 6 minutes" The road curves for 6/60ths of a degree? That's not much of a bend.

Most people have difficulty in giving directions but why? Could it be that most of us drive on 'autopilot'? We have all driven home and cannot recollect passing fairly big landmarks. I can drive you from the nearest Central to my house without any problem but ask me to draw a map - that's a different story.

One thing to try in your home town - when you are driving, stop the car and ask a pedestrian "Where is Smith (or any fictitious name) Street?" If they don't know, give them 'directions' -"Turn round, walk down to the lights, cross the road etc" You will be surprised the number of people who will thank you and go towards 'Smith St'. I first saw that on Candid Camera years ago and have used (or abused) it on several occasions!

You know when your visa expires.

You know when your passport expires.

You know that it takes 12-14 days to renew your passport.

So why have you left it so late to renew your passport?

Yes yes its all comming back now, can we realy get any lower, the Morris Ital, I can hardly bring myself to type those words and the BL princess, this is getting realy sick I wouldent be surprized if we get somebody posting an Austin A40 next !

Can't post about the A40 but I did have a nice 1953 A30. Mate of mine had an A35 at the same time. My car passed its MOT test but mate's failed on brakes. Both of us had no money at the time so we spent the weekend changing master and wheel cylinders and pipes. His car passed on Monday morning, we never did change brake parts back as both cars had better brakes after the swap.

Someone mentioned KIA, we had a new KIA Optima in Oman last year, about the same size and shape as a Camry. It was a great car for the money - about 420,000 Baht

The Suzuki jeep type, how many of these Thai 'big foot' conversions topple over?

Don't have to be old to be boring, just look at this worthless piece of nothingness, we used to call them Euroblobs, you only knew what it was by the badge, probably a good reliable car but boring as <deleted>>.

That Eurpblob is a Toyota! Badge enginerring has been going on for years - basically the same car with a different badge and possibily other changes.

Wasn't it GM who started the 'world car' concept with the J car? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_J-body

Sorry what is a troll? Ive used this site a few times but not come across the term. Thanks

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Let's be brutally honest here. Would you marry a prostitute in your own country? If your answer is 'No', why do you want to marry one from here?

Aren't you confusing the Maestro with the Allegro? The quartic steering wheel was only on the Series 1 Allegro

That's twice now that you've called someone a liar in this thread.

With no proof to back it up.

You nitpicking ninny!

There is no need for insults, I only asked if you were getting confused between the Maestro and the Allegro. You want me to furnish proof? Where is your proof? Check the following on the quartic wheel http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navc...+steering+wheel

As for the Vega meaning 'won't go', I don't believe that I even implied that you were lying.

Seen in Lat Phrao Road yesterday and I have no desire to see it again! A large 1960's Mercedes-Benz - pink bodywork with white painted roof, all interior done in white fake fur - seats, door panels & posts and roof lining.

Strange things carried on motorcycle - 19 inch TV under one arm, large pane of glass in bare hands and about four step ladders on one bike.

Funniest incident - 3 adults on a motorcycle with a hand propelled food cart in tow - The cart was 'fixed' to the bike by putting the handle on the seat and the rearmost passenger sitting on the handle - bike went over a bump, rear passenger's bottom lifted off the seat and the inevitable happened! Bike went one way, cart and contents the other way.

Austin Maestro - 'orrible thing, major design feature, a 'square' steering wheel, very effective at trapping parts of the anatomy (thumbs) when letting it spin straight after turning at a junction.

Aren't you confusing the Maestro with the Allegro? The quartic steering wheel was only on the Series 1 Allegro

Vauxhall, the UK arm of GM, used to produce a small car in the UK named Nova which is Spanish for 'won't go' and was named Corsa for the European market.

Michael804 vega- fertile valley. Cannot comment on it being regional slang for 'won't go' apart from to say it seems far-fetched even with a fertile imagination!

pop3 - the sporty versions were the MG110, MG1300 and MG1300GT, posher models were Riley, Wolseley & Vanden Plas.

I had an early Morris 1100 (early '63, registration number VDJ 120), not the worst car I ever had but it did have a big design flaw. Driving home one cold, icy December night, the accelerator cable snapped and instead of shutting power off it opened the carb fully - I was only in not far from home and got home safely.

The only airline that we have had trouble is GulfAir when we flew to and from BKK to Muscat, not only did we have to pay excess but had to buy another bag at the airport to put the 5kgs excess in! They would not accept any luggage over 20kgs.

The most 'famous' beggar that I knew was one in Jeddah. Eight hours a day, day in - day out, he was there in his scruffy rags. At the end of his 'shift', he would scurry away down a side street then he would take off his uniform and then..... put it in the boot of his Mercedes and drive off!!!!

The 5 year old son of a rather well-heeled English family ran to his Mum

Mater , Mater, I just stuck a lit banger up a dog's ar5e.

Ar5e, ar5e?, Timothy, we do not say ar5e in this family - rectum, child, RECTUM

Yes and you should have seen his balls fly!

Most taxis in Thailand, as you have pointed out, do not have seat belts.

There is no compulsory fitting of rear belts in Thailand

There is no Thai law stating that, if fitted, seat belts must be worn

You can write as many 'what if' scenarios but will these change the three lines above? No.

Roses are reddish,

Violets are bluish,

If it wasn't for Christmas,

We'd all be born Jewish.