Phimeow

>the Thai visa in the Swedish passport is no longer relevant. It is superseded by gaining Thai citizenship. There is no overstay

Chatelle - surely if the OP entered with a Swedish passport (visa or visa waiver) and she does not exit Thailand with her Swedish passport, surely she has overstayed the visa/waiver conditions.

If the OP was to ever use her Swedish passport to exit Thailand in the future, it will be picked up as overstayed and fined.

I do agree that she could just ignore all of this and start using her Thai passport.

>On a technical point, any Thai using another nationality passport to enter or leave the country risks losing their Thai citizenship as it could be construed as taking advantage of that citizenship in Thailand. That's actually stated in the law, although I've never heard of it being applied.

They could never enforce that law as it would put paid to having dual citizenship! LoL. There are quite a few contradictory immigration laws aren't there.

You will have absolutely no problem leaving Thailand on your Thai passport regardless that you entered on the Swedish.

Reiterating: your status in Thailand as a Swedish passport holder with a catB visa is superseded by you subsequently gaining Thai citizenship.

True indeed Chalette but that leaves your Swedish passport in an undesirable state - overstay/Thailand,

Not an issue if OP does not ever want to use the Swedish passport ever again for entry/exit Thailand but personally I prefer to keep everything clean.

My 2c's worth:

For best result exit Thailand via air using your Swedish passport. This leaves your Swedish passport in a good state i.e. no overstay. You never know when your Swedish passport will come in handy when you next travel so it's best to keep everything legal.

Return to Thailand using your Thai passport - autogate works really well. Once you are in as a Thai - no more issues.

(From personal experience, I also have dual citizenship)

OP - my experience with getting my cousin from Thailand to visit me in Australia may be of help.

The requirements from the Australian embassy in Bangkok are simple and straight forward.

- stat dec that outlines your relationship withy our g/f, how long you have known her etc

- stat dec that you will provide _all_ financial support for your g/f including if she sick/hospitalised (i.e. so she does not become a burden on Medicare)

- copy of your pay slips or last 2 tax returns to show you have the financial capacity to do so. A letter to state you are currently employed may also help. They don't need to know how much money you have in the bank.

That's pretty much it. All the embassy cares about is that you will be totally responsible for her while in Oz and you are responsible for returning her to Thailand (no visa overstay, do not disappear in Oz and the like). If she does not return they will come after you.

Good luck!

Thanks for further clarification.

No report if you leave before your 90 says are up.

Report if you stay 90 consecutive days and want to stay longer.

@UbonJoe,

Re: your comment "No reporting to immigration will be needed."

for clarity - you are saying that a farang with multi entry O visa based on marriage does not need to report to Immigration every 90 days?

I never knew that.

Thanks GuavaGirl.

Ubonjoe/casualbiker/samran...thanks for excellent replies.

Hopefully national service is not a mandatory requirement - I have missed that while studying overseas and have since past the conscription age.

Hi,

Hopefully the topic says it all.

Been searching this forum for clear and concise answer but most topics are regarding Thai wife and farang man.

I am Thai currently living overseas. Looking to move back to Thailand with my Aussie wife soon.

Does she automatically receive PR or will she need to apply for PR either in Australia or on arrival here in Thailand?

Further, will having a PR allow her to work? Will she need a work permit?

I don't need marital advice..just visa related advice - thanks. :-)

@Maestro - the Thai sentence ใช้ชีวิตบั้นปลาย does not mean to live the rest of your life. It means 'End of Life', or in this context, expiry date.

RE: Airport-City link.

The Express line is much more expensive than the regular line. While the Express shaves about 10-15 minutes off the regular line, it does not run as often which negates the potential time saving. I always take the regular line - 45 baht one way, all the way from the airport to PhayaThai.

I won't go into the legal aspects of dual nationality, suffice to say that it is possible. The process can be a bit of a rigmarole but obstacles can be overcome with patience.

Note my own personal experience in getting Thai ID card here (I'm not the original poster) - http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/546081-visa-for-aussie-daughter-of-a-thai-citizen/

My circumstance is a little different to yours as I was born in Thailand and you were not. If your father registered your birth at Thai Embassy in the USA, it should be a very easy process.

Good luck!

Reg, re post#7 - I trust the consulate staff. It's the AustPost workers that I don't trust!

Based on my own experience, I can say that it is imperative that the boy is registered to a Thai household. As he was born in Thailand, his birth should have been reported to the local amphoe office (otherwise there will be a fine) and he should have been registered to a house. If this is the case then I suggest that he enters Thailand on his UK passport, apply for a Thai passport while there (both mother and father present, with required documents). Once the passport is received, exit using UK passport and re-enter with Thai passport.

Good luck.

Salapao - Big Pao Minced Pork and Egg is da bomb. Used to be a treat when I was a wee lad, but not from 7-11, from a real dim sum shop in Bangrak.

Having just gone through the process of getting my Thai ID card (born in Thailand, left Thailand for Aust as a child on Thai passport, got Aust citizenship, no Thai ID card, both parents have died) it's can be a pretty harrowing experience (lot of documents to prove my identity plus 3 relatives to vouch for me in person).

In your case, Missymoo, as your father is still alive, I suggest you just get a 60 day tourist visa to enter Thailand. While here, get together the following documents for the purpose of getting a Thai ID card so you can make plans to stay on a more permanent basis without the need for a VISA at all.

1. Birth certificate showing you as daughter of your Thai father (if your father does not have this, go to the Gov't service centre in the Amphoe where you were born and get a certified copy)

2. Take your father + another close relative (to vouch for you) to the Govt service centre in the Amphoe where he lives now (hopefully he is up to it). Make a copy of your father's and relative's Thai I.D. cards....photo copy both sides (front and back). Both copies should be signed.

4. Take the house registration book and a photo copy of his house registration book...to verify he lives in Thailand . He signs that copy too.

5. Your Aussie passports. Copy all pages and you sign all pages.

6. Three passport size photos of you.

There will be questions why you don't have a Thai ID and just say you never had one since leaving Thailand (I think they only issue them when you are 16 years of age). Fill in the ID application form - you, your father and relatives will be interviewed to confirm the relationship. The local officer at the Amphoe may mention or confirm your dual citizenship but it's not a problem as many Thais now hold dual citizenship. You should received the new ID within about 1-2 hours if all goes well. The fees for this is minor.

Once you have your Thai ID, register yourself into your father's address (done at the same place). Then go to Ministry of Foreign Affairs office at 123 Chaeng Wattana Road,Laksi, Bangkok and apply for the passport (4 photos), pay the fee. In a few days pick up your Thai passport.

Leave Thailand when your 60 day visa is up using your Aussie passport. Just go over the border - Malaysia, Lao etc using a cheap flight or train/bus. Reenter using your Thai passport and you can stay as long as you like.

Good luck!

The original news story:

มูลนิธิเมาไม่ขับ ผลักดันให้มีการแก้ไขกฎหมายให้รถยนต์ส่วนบุคคลต้องมีแอลกอฮอล์ไม่เกิน 30 มิลลิกรัมเปอร์เซ็นต์

มูลนิธิเมาไม่ขับ ผลักดันให้มีการแก้ไขกฎหมายให้รถยนต์ส่วนบุคคลต้องมีแอลกอฮอล์ไม่เกิน 30 มิลลิกรัมเปอร์เซ็นต์ หลังกระทรวงคมนาคม เริ่มกำหนดให้กลุ่มรถโดยสารสาธารณะแอลกอฮอล์ต้องเป็น 0 โดยมีผลบังคับในวันที่ 1 กุมภาพันธ์นี้เป็นต้นไป

นายโสภณ ซารัมย์ รัฐมนตรีว่าการกระทรวงคมนาคม กล่าวว่า ตั้งแต่วันที่ 1 กุมภาพันธ์ 2554 เป็นต้นไป กระทรวงคมนาคม จะเริ่มเข้มงวดกับพนักงานขับรถ ผู้ประจำรถ และผู้ใช้บริการบนรถโดยสารสาธารณะทุกประเภท ยกเว้น รถแท็กซี่ รถจักรยานยนต์รับจ้าง และรถตู้โดยสารสาธารณะ โดยต้องงดดื่มสุรา และเครื่องดื่มที่มีแอลกอฮอล์ทุกชนิดอย่างเด็ดขาด กำหนดให้กลุ่มบุคคลดังกล่าวต้องไม่มีปริมาณแอลกอฮอล์ในร่างกาย หรือแอลกอฮอล์เป็น 0 ในขณะปฏิบัติหน้าที่ หากพบปริมาณแอลกอฮอล์ในเลือดเกินกว่า 50 มิลลิกรัมเปอร์เซ็นต์จะมีความผิดตามกฎหมาย โดยมีโทษจำคุกไม่เกิน 3 เดือนปรับไม่เกิน 2,000-10,000 บาท หรือทั้งจำทั้งปรับ ขณะที่ผู้ประกอบการขนส่งที่ไม่ควบคุมกวดขันและดูแลพนักงานขับรถและผู้ประจำรถ มีความผิดต้องระวางโทษปรับไม่เกิน 40,000 บาท พร้อมทั้งมีผลต่อการพิจารณาต่ออายุใบอนุญาตประกอบการขนส่งด้วย อย่างไรก็ตามหลังจากนี้กรมการขนส่งทางบกได้จัดเตรียมรถเคลื่อนที่ออกตรวจรถโดยสารสาธารณะเหมือนด่านเคลื่อนที่ใน 4 เส้นทางหลักทั่วประเทศ

ด้าน นายแพทย์แท้จริง ศิริพานิช เลขาธิการมูลนิธิเมาไม่ขับ กล่าวว่า มาตรการดังกล่าวถือเป็นความสำเร็จอีกขั้นหนึ่งของการรณรงค์เมาไม่ขับที่มีการผลักดันมาถึง 5 ปี อย่างไรก็ตาม ในอนาคตมูลนิธิเมาไม่ขับจะผลักดันให้มีการแก้ไขกฎหมายกำหนดให้รถส่วนบุคคลต้องมีแอลกอฮอล์ไม่เกิน 30 มิลลิกรัมเปอร์เซ็นต์ จากเดิมกฎหมายกำหนดไว้ 50 มิลลิกรัมเปอร์เซ็นต์ให้ถือว่าเมา ซึ่งขัั้นตอนที่จะต้องทำต่อไปคือ เปิดรับฟังความคิดเห็นจากประชาชนก่อนที่จะผลักดันให้มีการแก้ไขกฎหมายต่อไป

the underlines bits..."From 1 Feb 2011, The Ministry of Transport will commence strict policing of drivers, and passengers of public transport vehicles of all types excluding taxis, motor cycles for hire and minivans to ensure absolutely no consumption of alcoholic beverages of all types. The foregoing group of people shall not have any alcohol in their system (body), that is, 0% alcohol..." etc etc

Sad but true.