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lol, ok, whatever you say. The drug regulator said on its website its experts did not recommend the vaccine because of side effects reported abroad were still being investigated. It also said Pfizer had not proposed any plan to generate safety and immunogenicity data in India. “Based on the deliberations at the meeting and our understanding of additional information that the regulator may need, the company has decided to withdraw its application at this time,” Pfizer said in a statement. “Pfizer will continue to engage with the authority and re-submit its approval request with additional information as it becomes available in the near future.” https://www.metro.us/pfizer-drops-india-vaccine/

NEW DELHI (Reuters) - Pfizer Inc said on Friday it had withdrawn an application for emergency-use authorisation of its COVID-19 vaccine in India, after failing to meet the drug regulator’s demand for a local safety and immunogenicity study. If you say so, but before everyone calls you a liar, you should back your statements up with more than your good word and the echo's of other comments above. So, do as you see fit but stop lying and misleading.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.14.21267615v1.full-text

NEW DELHI (Reuters) - Pfizer Inc said on Friday it had withdrawn an application for emergency-use authorisation of its COVID-19 vaccine in India, after failing to meet the drug regulator’s demand for a local safety and immunogenicity study. https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-india-pfizer/pfizer-drops-india-vaccine-application-after-regulator-seeks-local-trial-idUSKBN2A50GE

mRNA VE against omicron, tertiary numbers for booster performance vary by report. I don't claim by how much they wane and in what timeline so I included the following link. There are 100's more, draw your own conclusion. https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2022/2/11/22929464/covid-19-booster-shot-effectiveness-timeline

triple vaccinated with a covid vaccination and dying from covid does not give me the warm and fuzzies. Imagine getting polio after 3 vaccinations. WE NEED A SOLUTION that works (better).

You will have to check on that, how you do it will be interesting. But, spose that's why the good Lord invented yandex.

Omicron will likely continue to infect and kill at risk cohorts at will. Vaccination technology needs to improve or this mess will just linger until.....when?

well, tbh I don't really know. But maybe they do, I suspect they are not all cracked up to what some would want you to believe.

Pfizer announced before Christmas that in a clinical trial of children aged 2 to 4 years old, two doses of vaccine failed to generate antibody levels on par with those seen in people aged 16 to 25 after two shots. https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-postpones-advisory-committee-meeting-discuss-request-authorization Best advise is assess ones risk of covid disease and/or wait for vaccine efficacy and safety results from the current ongoing pfizer clinical trials ending 2026.

Fauci “But if you are a normal, healthy 30-year-old person with no underlying conditions, you might need a booster only every four or five years.” Does anyone really know.

I will say that the vaccines are effective UNTIL they are not. To say otherwise is just nonsensical spin. Two dose mRNA and AZ provide ZERO/negitive protection (pfizer VE=0%, AZ: -20%) after 20 weeks and the pfizer booster jab wanes to 40% after 10 weeks. If the vaccines are so effective why does BioNTech and pfizer recommend as a minimum now a 4th dose booster and announce they are working on a new omicron specific version. Now go have a look at the pathetic mess in highly vaccinated AU (~78% 2 doses, ~20% boosters) and all the record setting covid infections (higher /capita than US) (more infections were recorded in the last seven days than in the 707 days since the country’s first case) there amongst a population with probably very low natural immunity. Suffice to say, Omicron variant has changed the playing field, obviously, so must the covid mitigation and mgmt policies change in response, without new strategies AND effective vaccines and other treatments, immunity against covid may be a very long way away.

Dr. Yong's comments may be accurate, but the problem is the protection levels afforded by the increased antibodies may be insufficient against omicron as reported recently by a small study in Israel and comments from pfizer & moderna CEO's and BioNTech. An omicron specific solution is in the works with both moderna & pfizer now with production ETA March 2022. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/08/omicron-pfizer-ceo-says-we-may-need-fourth-covid-vaccine-doses-sooner-than-expected.html https://www.euronews.com/next/2021/12/20/omicron-3-vaccine-doses-are-not-enough-to-stop-the-new-covid-variant-warns-biontech-ceo The UK-HSA published some results of VE data for pfizer and Moderna boosters: pfizer drops to 40% after 10 weeks. Biggest drop is a negative VE 20 weeks after two dose AstraZeneca series. Moderna booster (2 dose mRNA) performed much better. I know some Thai individuals who have purchased several lots of moderna jabs, perhaps they can be used as boosters in TH.

So, with >1.9M new daily covid cases worldwide there could be a lot of stupid, sleepie people running amok.

If you did, you won't find any.

Yeah, ok I see that. So, maybe France and India have similar CFR's unless France has "underestimated" this metric as well. But the funny part is this: "There is a growing sense that official counts of Covid-19 deaths are underestimated in South Asia, including India and do not reflect the actual scale of the pandemic, a latest World Bank report indicated on Thursday" Where I come from that's unconvincing speculation and fails the prima facia test. If we assumed facts based on a "growing sense", 555, No proof, hard evidence, etc exists and none was presented in your link. Sure, all the data we see reported daily and globally is not easy to compute accurately at times and is often theoretical and based on algorithms churning away in the basement of the CDC as an example, but to expect "a growing sense" to fly is comic. Unless the World Bank can correct the reporting errors and provide accurate data we have no alternative data sources despite our "growing senses" and I ask you to refute the Oxford data as presented in the metric I referred to and submit the accurate 7 day rolling average of deaths/milion for India, until you do we can "assume" you don't have any data and the death rates in my post stand as data for reference purposes here.

Who can say with any degree of certainty what's going on in Thailand. They recorded the first corona virus case outside China way back in January 2020. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-22/thailand-defies-odds-to-successfully-manage-coronavirus-pandemic/12359632

,,,,,,and maybe India too, but despite their "hygiene" levels, their covid death rates are a fraction of France's covid death rate.

It may turn out to be mild as you mention: Three New Studies Suggest Omicron Triggers Milder Illness Than Delta Early assessment of the clinical severity of the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant in South Africa Omicron less likely to put you in the hospital, studies say https://apnews.com/article/omicron-less-likely-to-put-you-in-hospital-ec46b4dbbf55e16b79a3c267ced6a7df https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19803368.covid-scotland-omicron-hospital-admissions-lower-expected/ But: "But scientists warn that it's too soon to dismiss Omicron cases as resembling the common cold, even if the variant winds up being milder on its own. Omicron is still highly transmissible — cases are doubling every two to three days in the US — and hospitalizations are bound to rise the more it spreads. "Even if Omicron is 'less severe,' people still do end up at the hospital," Jetelina said. "If a virus is moving through 330 million people, that small percentage can add up very quickly."

Like what, cheap, easy words, but what metrics? Show the metrics, then we can discuss. Ah, nevermind. I don't want to be "bashing" away at you.

Silly me, I didn't know that "vaccine" and "testing" were the same thing, but do tell us how that became to be in your mind.

Anything but pitiful. Their vaccination rates (fully vaccinated with 2 doses's) exceeds vax rates for Asia, Europe, the World and now exceeds USA and many other countries and FYI compare Thailand's recent data of new daily case rates (7-day rolling) of covid infection for context. Thailand's covid mgmt performance is good all things considered.

I find that questionable, since it the WRAIR vaccine announced recently has not been tested on omicron. “The Spike Ferritin Nanoparticle platform is designed to protect against an array of SARS-CoV-2 variants and SARS-origin variants but was not tested on the Omicron variant.” Some confusion about the announcement. https://www.wrair.army.mil/node/659

Moderna may be a good choice now, it's shown to be as good and likely superior booster VE compared to Pfizer in a recent UK report. Do check though as some countries advise against moderna vaccine in males under 24 years of age and there may be more advisories.

And, also, we have this guy named Fauci. https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/how-fauci-fooled-america-opinion/ar-AAQbFiu