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Marvin Hagler
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Absolutely every supposed reason according to rose coloured glasses types that Thailand has been able to do 1.4 million doses in a day has also been done in every other country. Number of vaccine centers, number of nurses, number of shots, number of helpers, number of volunteers, media campaigns…it’s all been done the same everywhere. There is nothing Thialand can or has done that has not already been done. So why is Thailand apparently able to do (if you believe the numbers) what no other country has been able to do? They can’t, it’s that simple.
But for anyone who has spent any time in Thailand you will know there is one thing they can do better than almost any other country…lie without shame. Everyone familiar with Thailand knows that Thais are so adept at it that it is not even recognized as a lie in the same way most cultures see it. And that is what they are doing with these numbers.
Brazil is currently the poster child for rapid vaccinations and their best day has been 1.5m does against a population of 220m. That means Thailand would have to be 3 times more efficient than what is currently recognised as the worlds most efficient country. You can Google the Brazil story.
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On Saturday one of the major Thai newspapers reported it was 1.1million vaccinations on Friday. Today the same publication is reporting 1.44million vaccinations on Friday. This article is stating 1.2million vaccinations on Friday.
I think that tells you everything you need to know about how accurate the numbers are. It’s been made up to suit their agenda.
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2 minutes ago, James105 said:
Which one did you go to then? I'm starting to think you haven't been vaccinated here (or are even in Thailand) as you continue to avoid answering this question and have zero basis for your claim. The UK used individual appointments rather than getting hundreds of people queuing in a production line so would easily explain the difference in efficiency.
Of course I am not in Thailand. Why would I be somewhere like that during a time like this.
Its irrelavant, it’s pure common sense. I don’t need to see a vaccination center there. It’s all on the numbers and application of common sense…mixed with the experience of living there for over 20 years.
What difference would having a vaccination in Thailand make? The vaccination centers here (Australia) are incredibly efficient too…doesn’t mean they are claoming those BS numbers.
Show me another country that has achieved the same efficiency per capita?
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3 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:
Its all well and good Thailand playing with these Vaccines, but on the serious side, there could be some serious, and costly ramifications to this policy.
Lets just say as an example, that it all goes terribly wrong, and there are serious and long lasting side effects from the taking of these " mixed "vaccines , that have not been authorized for mixing by the manufacturers.
The law suits will be flowing like a River, but who is responsible, as guidelines have not been followed for the administration of the Vaccines by the Manufacturers, y Thailand has made their own rules to apply to the Vaccinations, which IMO could well be detrimental to the Health of the People of the Nation.
I hope this will never happen , but there have to be some risks involved in such actions.
In a normal country it would be a liability…in Thailand there is nothing you can do if things go wrong.
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9 minutes ago, James105 said:
I can tell you what I have seen with my own eyes and I can say with some certainty that they could easily carry out 1000+ vaccinations in a day so have no reason to question these figures so I am interested in which one you went to as you are very certain the figures are made up. Which vaccination centre did you go to that has made you question these numbers every single day?
One person in one vaccination center getting one vaccine makes a Thailand wide vaccination expert. Nice one.
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30 minutes ago, MikeyIdea said:
The vaccination centre I got my shots at was efficient and quick. Which vaccination centre did you go to? If you haven't been to one personally, you should know better and keep quiet.
UK vaccination centers are efficient and quick too…and well organised…with excellent infrastructure to support vaccine deliveries…but they never reached anywhere close to 900k vaccines even on their best day…and certainly not 7 or 8 days in a row.
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25 minutes ago, James105 said:
What's your evidence for this? Have you been to a vaccination centre in Thailand in order to evaluate their efficiency at this? I have and the one I went to suggests it's easily possible (in the one I went to) to vaccinate a 1000+ people in a single day. They have more than 900 vaccination centres here. Which one did you go to that makes you cast doubt on these numbers every single day?
Where is the proof of 900 vaccination centers please and that all of them are doing 1,000 vaccines per day?
Its simple common sense…if those numbers are true then it means Thailand is the most efficient country in the world at procuring and administering vaccines…if you believe that is possible then I wish you good luck.
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Amazing Thailand…Prayut paid 5,000,000 to a number of MP’s to voter for him. It is almost certain that the vast majority of votes cast today had to be paid for and probably a minimum $100k each.
This excercise probably cost the powers that be several million dollars. And they paid that money out of their own pocket for the love of the country!!! Yeah right.
They need to recoup those millions spent and will easily be able to do so from the corruption they reap from taxpayers money.
Thai politics is all about money and nothing else…it’s as low as you could possible for.
The docile populace get what they deserve unfortunately.
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1 hour ago, mommysboy said:Yes, social media and ill informed posters have a lot to answer for.
Sinovac is a useful vaccine- because of its mild side effects it may even be better in some circumstances. Certainly, it could be argued that it is the best option for youngsters, since they don't really need a strong vaccine like Pfizer or AZ.
Good lord
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Wow! So glad I live in a civilised country where I don’t have to choose which vaccine I think might be best for me based on a few Google searches.
I take what is recommended to me by medical experts that I trust. Not some mix and match neccessitated by poor vaccine procurement decisions.
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What I do find amusing is the mix and match vaccine policy.
This is absolutely quintessential Thai style for never using things the way they were designed to be used and then applying their own approach with the result of always coming up with something inferior to its original interested use.
They do it with everything and of course will never to listen to anyone else.
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37 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:South Korea used to be called the country of coups from the 60s-80s and their history was marked by alternating periods of democratic and post coups autocratic military rule just like Thailand. Democracy enjoyed by South Korea today came about from student and civic movements that brought enormous changes to the constitution and political system. THailand may seem like a lost cause but I believed that in everything it has its threshold and limit. Pressure must be maintained by the youth and civil groups to break this cycle of coups.
Spot on…Thailand could be as wealthy and prosperous today as South Korea and Singapore if it wasn’t for the Coups and the all the greed and corruption that drives it.
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16 minutes ago, anchadian said:
National Vaccination Rollout:
DAY 82: 915,738 <— New High
DAY 83: 258,782 <— Saturday
DAY 84: 275,188 <— Sunday
DAY 85: 817,342
DAY 86: 828,182
DAY 87: 827,462
DAY 81: 865,074
TOTAL: 34,292,537 doses since 28 February
12.7% fully vaccinated
https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1433669930830876675
I don’t understand how anyone could entertain for a moment the idea of believing these numbers.
The UK managed 600k jabs in a day on only 2 occasions. The rest of the time it was between 400k to 500k.
It is completely absurd.
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9 minutes ago, anchadian said:
National Vaccination Rollout:
DAY 82: 915,738 <— New High
DAY 83: 258,782 <— Saturday
DAY 84: 275,188 <— Sunday
DAY 85: 817,342
DAY 86: 828,182
DAY 87: 827,462
DAY 81: 865,074
TOTAL: 34,292,537 doses since 28 February
12.7% fully vaccinated
https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1433669930830876675
It’s official, Thailand is literally the the most efficient country in the world at administering vaccines…..they are so efficient that they can project themselves into the future to administer vaccines today that they won’t be receiving until October.
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35 minutes ago, James105 said:
I think when I went to get mine it was the same, and I think there were maybe 10 people actually giving the vaccinations (the bit prior to that with paperwork is not relevant as those people are not giving the jabs). The actual vaccination part takes maybe 2-3 minutes, and there is only a 5-10 second gap between someone leaving the vaccination chair and the next person sitting down. The 'jabbers' were never idle whilst people were sorting out paperwork as other people were taking care of that and they always had people in the waiting area to get the jab.
So just where I was if you do the maths and say that 1 person can deliver probably 15 jabs per hour, and 10 people giving jabs over an 8 hour period would work out to 1200 in a day. I heard they had about 900+ vaccination centres here so it is theoretically possible. Depends on whether those other vaccination centres are as efficient as the one I went to.
I doubt there are 1,000 centers but even if there were then getting the distribution of vaccines from a supposedly limited supply to each of those centers in the right quantity is a huge logistical challenge.
Its also assuming that chain can be fed in such a meticulous way for 8 hours straight without delay or interruption.
And if it is that easy then why has no other country been able to achieve it. Remember those claimed figures would literally make Thailand the very best country (literally the best) in the world. That is the true comparison point.
On top of the complete incompetency from the authorities you have seen so far do you really think a developing country would be more efficient or better at this than say USA, UK or Germany or Japan or any other similar countries who have become what they are based on their organisational and logistical skills?
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10 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:I attended one of those big crowd events. Bang Sue. Had an appointment. First up the folk that work there are fantastic and work hard. Difficult job.
Point of my post is that (as expected) the paperwork took time.
In my case to obtain the appointment was online along with email confirmation.
When you attend you fill is basic form.
You then queue through stage 1,2,3... finally you get to the real paperwork section where you do ID etc. The fella had my passport for minutes. It also tool time for Thai. Finally you obtain a printout that has everything even which arm your receiving jab. Next is to waiting area for actual jab.
To do 800k-900k+ jabs with that process is rubbish. Not possible
The numbers are total BS…the highest number ever admistered in US was 4,000,000 and that was a single day only. Most of the other BEST days were in the 2,000,000 range and there weren’t many of those. That in a country that is awash with vaccines and available on any street corner with no appointment.
US population is about 5 times that of Thailand. So that means Thailand (if the numbers are to be believed) has equaled USA’s very best day not once but for 5 days in a row (more if not counting weekends).
From one of the worst countries in the world for vaccines to being THE absolute best in the world? Really? Not a chance.
Not sure they even had that many Vaccines available.
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1 hour ago, anchadian said:
National Vaccination Rollout:
DAY 81: 669,189
DAY 82: 915,738 <— New High
DAY 83: 258,782 <— Saturday
DAY 84: 275,188 <— Sunday
DAY 85: 817,342
DAY 86: 828,182
DAY 87: 827,462
TOTAL: 33,427,463 doses since 28 February
13.38% fully vaccinated
https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1433306350897930243
Absolute BS numbers…
It is simply not possible that Thailand could continuously vaccinate 20% more people every day than the UK could on its one off best day.
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It’s interesting to see what is happening in Malaysia at the moment. 55% of the population is fully vaccinated and yet cases are going through the roof (highest they have ever been). What is so different between Malaysia and Thailand? The answer is that one is transparent and telling the truth and the other is lying.
Bear in mind that the Malaysian government was toppled due to their poor handling of Covid. So there may be a reason that this Junta government is lying about the numbers.
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3 hours ago, GStewart70 said:
If only it was that simple.
Israel reimposed mask mandates within days of reopening and is now deploying booster shoots to calm the escalating situation.
UK has rising hospitalisations and deaths.
A Scottish health advisor was yesterday warning about the possibility of a reverse in lockdown restrictions easing if the situation continues.
The vaccines wane after six months.
Think of mice running on a wheel in a cage.
You have underestimated the Thai miracle…what has happened to the rest of the world will not happen to them because Anutin and Prayut are gods from another dimension.
Or just bull hiitters!
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1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:
817,000 vaccinated Tuesday.
Good to see the boring days of 500k a thing of the past.
Any takers on when the One mill breakthrough arrives.
1.5 million on Thursday or Friday…
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You have to admire their audacity!
I am fascinated now by 2 things:
1. How low will they go with case numbers? Are they taking this all the way to zero or will they keep a few hundred daily cases to at least try and scrape some semblance of integrity.
2. Personally I think they are faking the numbers and appreciate that others may disagree. I think we can all agree though that not a single country in the world (that has a proper testing program) has not seen a rise in cases after reopening. I am interested to see if Thailand fakes another miracle and cases don’t go up again after reopening.
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5 minutes ago, anchadian said:
National Vaccination Rollout:
DAY 78: 573,446
DAY 79: 585,214
DAY 80: 637,921
DAY 81: 669,189
DAY 82: 915,738 <— New High
DAY 83: 258,782 <— Saturday
DAY 84: 275,188 <— Sunday
TOTAL: 30,954,477 doses since 28 February
11.29% fully vaccinated
https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1432226371095314436
Prediction…one day this week we will see the government tell us that they did 1,500,000 vaccines in a day.
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3 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:
No. I have no desire to take the the thread off topic with racist stereotyping nonsense.
facts are facts…no racism at all
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6 minutes ago, Marvin Hagler said:13 minutes ago, James105 said:
Crikey - the propaganda in Australia is working well on you. You are now at the stage of pointing fingers at immigrants. History suggest this is not going to end well. Any suggestions as to what appropriate action can be taken against these immigrants yet? How would you like this problem to be solved?
UK newspaper not Australian.
Facts are facts
More than 1 million COVID-19 jabs given in Thailand on Friday
in Thailand News
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Sadly I am pretty certain this plus 1m per day vaccine rhetoric will continue for weeks…Friday was simply the kick off…there will be many days now where they claim over 1m vaccines per day…would not be surprised if they claim 2m at some point.