GringoSteve

7 hours ago, SuperSilverHaze said:

Putting aside TM30 if you don't have a contract how can you stay here on O visa extension?

 

If it's a one time gone6so what. If it may repeat then move.

 

Simples

I renewed my 1yr extension at beginning of December using my old contract in his other building.

2 minutes ago, proton said:

Tell him you are too busy to pay the rent!

Nice !!

or that "I don't care"

7 minutes ago, Salerno said:

It's not. As I said before, you can register as the possessor but you still need copies of the owners docs.

Sorry, yes you're quite right you did say "possessor"

Well at the moment there is total silence from the manager.....I'll go to a visa agent tomorrow, there's one that advertises that she's ex Jomtien immigration, see what her take is on the situation. Then maybe ask manager for owners docs.

26 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

These threads come up often 

With zero cooperation from owner/manager and no lease what advice are you expecting.

More often these posts are related to Airbnb etc. 

You asked for useful suggestions and you seem to want to stay put. 

 

I suggest you contact an agent to look for a "get around".

Fortunately plenty of good ones in Pattaya.

 

Hopefully folk read about these threads and check on lease and TM30 prior to commiting to moving in.

 

We have a few rentals in Bangkok and TM30, lease etc is handled by real estate agent.

 

Short cuts usually end in pain. 

 

"Short cuts end in pain" Yes in general I'd have to agree with you, but....... In my 3.5 yrs since leaving UK and experience of 33 different accommodations in 4 different countries signing a long term lease/contract without living in it first is total madness. I would never do it now. You can look over a rental, it can have lots of new shiny appliances and modern shiny surfaces and multiple glowing reviews, but those aren't worth a damn till you've lived in it.

I think anyone considering a long term rental should at least try to find a very close airbnb/booking.com rental and live there first.

I can only go by my own experience. If people have been lucky enough to sign a lease blind and have a good place then good luck to them.

I'm not really short cutting, I didn't write the whole story because fundamentally it's not relevant. TM30 should be done in first 24 hrs end of discussion.

I had no reason to think he wouldn't do another for this place in Jomtien because I lived in his other main building in Pattaya for 2 weeks before signing a 3 month contract, 2 months in, I moved here as it became vacant and he told me it was much quieter, which is spot on. The TM30 was done there because I did an online 90 day report with no issue and his asst took copy of my passport and visa. Which makes the current situation even more crazy.

As someone else said it has no good outcome, so I've almost resigned myself to finding another place, probably a house inland.

Or maybe relocate elsewhere. 

17 minutes ago, zzzzz said:

use https://tm30.io/

By urself>>
dont need anything but ur passport <
copy and print screen shot 

It's for owners, agents etc NOT renters.

I can't describe myself as owner/manager....maybe as possessor but I think that's stretching a point.

5 minutes ago, Salerno said:

You can register as possessor and do the TM30 yourself - but, the issue you have remains, getting copies of owners ID, blue book etc.

Yes it's a BIG but !!

2 minutes ago, clearance said:

Yep. I got permission from the owner to do it of course. 

ok, thanks....can't see that happening ????

8 minutes ago, clearance said:

Ask him for the login to Section38 mobile app and register yourself. If he doesn't have one, try to register this address by yourself in the app. In 2020 when the owner was overseas I registered the address where I live in Section38 and reported myself, only needed the owner's passport scan for this as I remember. Done many 90-days reports and visa extension with this report, no questions asked.

Thanks, so do you create account/log in as yourself or as owner?

2 minutes ago, Woof999 said:

Landlord (or their "agent" in your case) to tenant relationship needs to be at least amicable. It doesn't matter how much you like the condo, it sounds like this situation is going to create headaches for you non-stop.

 

You should absolutely have a signed rental agreement before you move in and absolutely before you hand over any deposit. "Too busy" just doesn't cut it for something so important. They will also be too busy when you need anything else, such as repairs.

 

If I were in this situation I would cut my losses and move to another condo in the same area, if there is one.

Yes, I agree in principle but with my experience of noisy condos it suited me to live here for a month to decide IF I wanted a rental contract.

For me, signing a contract and then discovering it's noisy is no good. You can only tell what a place is like to live with a few weeks experience.

I'm sure we've all signed rental contracts and regretted it.?

As for deposits, I never expect to get them back, that's why I will only ever do one month deposit.

3 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

Several years ago I saw this transpire at CNX immigration:

 

1. Family of four were renting a house but the landlord was out of the country.  

2. The family wanted to extend their visas. 

3. A TM-30 had not been filed.

4. The family could not extend their visas until the TM-30 was filed.

5. The landlord would not respond when the renters tried to contact him.

 

The solution was for the the family to pay a 6400 Baht fine and get the the extension.  Why 6400 Baht? 1600 per passport holder X 4 = 6400.

 

Welcome to LOS, where someone must pay the fine.  

Yes, I've done some reading and Immigrations attitude does seem to be that if you know your TM30 has not been done you have a responsibility/liability also.

2 minutes ago, FriendlyFarang said:

Why don’t you have a rental contract? How do you know he is even the owner of the condo?

As stated he is the manager not the owner. Also as stated I've asked to do rental contract....but it never happens again because he says "too busy"

12 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

They really need to cancel it and cancel all New Years celebrations including closing all bars/entertianment venues.

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I guess you have already tried an anti-histamine for the hives?

On a side note, my own experience has been that after 60 years eating copious amounts of bread, I suddenly for no logical reason developed a gluten sensitivity that in my case, the main symptoms were extreme generalised itching and some very localised rashes.....but no hives.

However, it took a long time to discover that gluten was the problem.....and a topical steroid relieved the rashes.

Total abstinence from gluten consumption drastically reduced the itching.....but not totally, I would still sometimes get a bout of itching.

And then after about 4 to 5 years the sensitivity has almost disappeared.

My brothers wife also suddenly developed a generalised itching and this too she discovered was due to a gluten sensitivity.

Anything is worth a try......... if you are consuming any gluten? ????

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

Insanity to pay any agent unless you do not have all the needed paperwork and bank account to show the either 800k in the bank method or the monthly 65K International transfer method. If you looking to convert to a Non Imm-O retirement visa and extension there are many OP's in the archives to help you and even @ubonjoe can give you advice as well.  1900 Baht for an extension when you do it yourself, and just a little bit of legging it around to ensure you have the documents you need for immigration.  But to each their own and if you want to pay the fee then as the Thai's say "Up to You"

thanks, I'm kind of heading same route with help from Thai gf relative.

7 hours ago, BKKTRAVELER said:

Indeed, use Line as they usually prefer this app for communication nowadays. Contact a few agencies, get estimates and I'm pretty sure you'll get your answer as to who to choose. Be sure to select a verified agency that has positive reviews on the web and can actually deliver with their services. Some people have been ripped off in the past looking for bargains and ended up being scammed. I remember of a couple of threads on this forum where this occurred. You'll also get good recommendations here from trusted members.

 

Good luck!

Thanks for good advice BkkTraveler

7 hours ago, problemfarang said:

@GringoSteve

contact me if you need a really good help. Im using this agency for 2 years now and they are great and cheap and no headache at all. 

thaiviacentre will totally rip you of. 

the agency im using will charge you 28K for your first time then if you use them 2nd time it will b eonly 18K thaivisacentre will get your 30-35K for everytime! i suggested my agency to at least 5-6 ppl from this website and they are all happy and thanking me

if you are interested PM me. 

Thanks for the info, I might have now found some assistance from distant relative Thai gf who works in immigration. Will go see immigration on Monday, If it doesn't work out I'll be in touch. thanks again.

26 minutes ago, howerde said:

As above, use Line or Facebook, these seem the preferred method you should get an answer with a few minutes, i gave up on email ages ago, no one seems to ever reply

Thanks, Yes I'm sure you're right, no one is replying to emails. Will try Line.

56 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

You could contact agents such as ThaiVisaCenter.....most have Facebook and Line.

@ThaiVisaCentre

OK Thanks, I'm sure that was one of the 3 that didn't reply , but I will try again on Line. thanks again.

Hello, I'm here in Bangkok from UK on TR60 visa, hoping to ultimately get 1yr retirement visa.

I'm looking for a visa agent that can assist with bank account opening and non immigrant visa, retirement visa.

I would like to get any ones recommendation where they they have had quick and efficient service.

The company that got my TR60 and COE only seemed to do anything after I requested an update, I don't want a repeat of that.

I've contacted 3 already by email/webchat and none have replied.

Thanks for any info.