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2 hours ago, Espanol said:

Yes. But meanwhile, if travelling to Mexico, Costa Rica, Spain, Italy, Greece or Malta, steps are:

 

- Buy a cheap airplane ticket

- Book cheap hotel in Agoda or Booking

- Do a PCR test

 

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that's true. For at least right now.

Personally I think the cheap times ... everything cheap ... are over and will not come back soon.

Travelling and holidays will be different in the future. And it's good so. Traveling and holidays are no human rights. So what.

For BKK I know it was and guess it's still possible. For Phuket I haven't tried.

https://www.agoda.com/quarantineth

4 minutes ago, khunPer said:

Not really - "private jets" - they are all scheduled as propeller airplanes...

ATRs or Cessnas ? I mean a 4 seat Cessna would be enough most time  

Man ... forgot to change the name in the pdf before printing it out ?

How many people still think it's called Sandbox because of the sand on the beaches ?!?

Sandbox concepts have their origin in the IT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox_(computer_security)

One political said what's in the sandbox stays in the sandbox.

Exactly. That's what they are made for.

20 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

Well. That was interesting.

Having read the article in the esteemed Thaiger, I thought 'Hm. Maybe things are picking up in Chaweng?'

 

So, I put on my evening flip-flops, a clean shirt and headed off to have a beer and practice Thai with some young ladies in Chaweng.

Imagine my disappointment when I got to Chaweng. Dead. Still a scene from a Zombie movie. There is more fun in little old Bangrak. (There is more fun in the local 7/11. At least that is open.)

 

I saw two restaurants open on the Beach road.  Soi Green Mango was all in darkness. Nothing open. No people anywhere. Out of Soi Green Mango, near Central Festival, there was one bar playing music. No customers.

So - "On any given night, customers can be seen drinking and dancing without any masks or social distancing in popular clubs and small bars"

I will be polite and call this 'creative journalism'. The powers that be here in Thailand would call it fake news.

Maybe a case of sour grapes by a Phuket newspaper? I will certainly read it's stories from a different perspective from now on.

Maybe you try Bangrak, Chaweng lake side or Soi Reggae for your next beer. 

But I agree with you. Phuket businesses probably not very happy about the "unfair" competition from Samui.

I tried to find out something about this "private jet".

On flightradar24 I can't find a private jet landed on Samui the last days.

But maybe the information is limited because I'm not a paying member.

Does anybody know the registration number of the jet  or have further information ?

so the safest way: Quarantine in BKK and afterwards rent a car and drive down to Phuket or Samui.

 2 days till Samui opening.

Let's give them a week and see how it goes.

4 hours ago, Megasin1 said:

another super spreader event, you'd think that they would have learnt by now, early variant - 10 minutes of close proximity to infected, delta variant - just have to walk past an infected to catch it and unfortunately its the asian way of life, market's, crowds, gatherings. Its not rocket science, just stay away from other people, stay away from ferries, markets, public transport, queues, crowds and indoor areas. Regardless of what the government prints, it is rife in Thailand and the situation will worsen. I can understand their desperation but not their actions.

they never learn. not at daytime not at nighttime.

https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/tourism/samui-phangan-reopening-bars-open-5000-baht-covid-tests

3 days till opening of Samui ... wondering where this will lead

I think you can take everything in your baggage into your room. Nobody will check.

But as far as I know are no deliveries allowed from outside. No Foodpanda, no machines, no gf.

But maybe it's possible that your gf delivers the coffee machine to the hotel and they put it in your

room just before you arrive.

Starting 15th you can come to Thailand on 3 routes. 3 different ways to cope with quarantine.

Bangkok:
2 weeks quaratine in a hotel room. Book a nice room in a good hotel. Not that bad.
Straight, no surprises, not affected by others.
After 14 days you are free to go. The problem could be that you are in the darkest
red zone and traveling to somewhere else could be difficult or not possible at all.

Phuket:
No quarantine. Free to travel around in Phuket. It could be that you came in close
contact to someone else and that means you get quarantined in a maybe not so nice hotel.
You are free to travel but apart from daytime activities there's not much to do.
Have a meal without alcohol in a restaurant and go sleep after. No bars or clubs are open.

Samui:
3 days qurantine in the hotel room. You have to stay 4 more days in the hotel and
just allowed on sealed daytime tours and activities.
After 7 days you are free to move around on Samui, Phangan and Koh Tao.
Restaurants, bars, clubs and massage parlors are all open. You can get alcohol everywhere
and party all night if you know where to go.
There's no social distancing. Nobody is wearing a mask. I fear that Samui is on the 
best way to get the new Thonglor superspreader place. So maybe you just arrive there
and the whole place is going into lockdown.

What is the best way ? I personally don't know.
Any thoughts ?
 

I think they forget to mention one more zone type.

"out of control zone"

just read on thaitiger: https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/tourism/samui-phangan-reopening-bars-open-5000-baht-covid-tests

13 minutes ago, 2long said:

When they mentioned wristbands, we all laughed.

But they didn't make clear the imprisoning of fellow travellers, separation of families and all at the (uninsured) cost of the tourists.

I REALLY want the borders open, but what they're doing now will make things worse.

Don't forget to mention that microwaves are not made for drying cats ???? 

What did this "tourists" think what will happen when they get detected positive ?

What they think will happen if they came in close contact to a positive ?

They took the risk ...

Restaurants are closed in BKK. Phuket is 800 THB away. Restaurants and every bar that meanwhile applied for a restaurant licence are open. Hotels are still cheap. All you need is a PCR Test. As long as test results are send to you as unsecured PDF it's easy to make corrections to wrong dates and misspelled names. Here we go - escape the lockdown and have a weekend on Phuket for about 3000 THB. 

17 hours ago, Sig said:

If you actually bothered to read the article you'd understand what it means.... Always a good idea to read before commenting and wasting space on the board....

Reading, understanding and thinking about what that means are different things.

Would you agree that if they would do a study with 500 people in Samui right now (less than 10 cases the last weeks) they probably would find out that it is super efficacious at 100%.

Then it's efficacious between 71% and 100% ?

The article did not say anything about how many people where testet.

5000 with 71% eff, 100 with 91% ? 

Explain to me what these numbers are telling us ?

highly efficacious in the prevention of infection and death from the Alpha (UK) variant of COVID-19, at 71-91%.

Between 71% and 91% ? What the hell does that mean ? 80% efficacious ?

On 6/27/2021 at 6:13 AM, merijn said:

It has to be a direct international flight into Phuket.

Where it comes from or that there is a stopover doesn't matter as long the originating country is on the applicable list.

That's why the first PCR Test made at your origin is worth nothing and you have to do a test at Phuket airport.

On 6/24/2021 at 10:52 PM, JCP108 said:

As I've stated before, my concern isn't so much the cost. My bigger concern is the consequences of getting a false positive on one of the tests, even if not actually infected. I don't want to spend 14 days in a Thai hospital if not necessary. If one believes that the rate of false positives for PCR tests is 0.5%, then having to get four of them means there now is a 2% chance of getting a false positive. If they were to get 10,000 travelers to the sandbox, 200 of them statistically would be predicted to get a false positive result for at least one of those tests. That could result in a lot of extra hospital admissions for the local hospitals. Can they handle that if they really are successful at getting people to sign up and actually come play in the sandbox?

Not only that.

I would be more afraid of staying in a hotel where another guest is detected positiv. If you have been in "close" contact with that guest you probably get admitted to an ASQ Hotel for 14 days quarantine. At your costs ! As far as I know do health insurance not cover ASQ Hotels. Guess lot of people don't know that.