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I have been educated to postgraduate level at a highly respected UK university. How about you? I had actually way above written 2900%, so yes, you found a typo, you can keep it. If that is what your argument rests on, it's very poor. Lol, in the post above you, I literally wrote 7.5% died. So you're basically saying you have no arguments at all? Okay.

In most households the nice guy fathered the children, ie the Beta male who has to provide provisioning in return for sexual access, however, the problem is when the female is confronted with an Alpha male BEFORE she has had children, she will generally have sex with the Alpha male. That was what the Bonoboy study above found as well. Being a nice guy will only get you so far. If you truly want to have sex with many females it's much more useful to work on your physique, assuming you have the face in the first place, and indeed a physique that would warrant workouts.

The thing is any serious study that looks at many thousands of cases with complete data, was peer reviewed etc will be in the past. That actually gives it more credibility, due to the fact it was peer reviewed, as opposed to something that just came out. It's not "highly misleading" at all, the mortality figures will be very similar now, after all they looked at events that actually happened.

Oh I see, you're trying the trickery of moving the goal posts from infection to hospitalisation, very sneaky. Okay, I see what your'e doing. However, let's assume, for the sake of argument, that the study you have not actually read, which is not peer reviewed, is correct, and let's look at hospitalisation only. Of those who get infected with Covid the very vast majority, namely 80%, will have a mild case or be asymptomatic, thus, not require hospitalisation at all. "The majority of those who test positive for COVID-19 will survive the disease and the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO) states that, based on available data, approximately 80% of those who test positive for COVID-19 experience a mild illness or are asymptomatic " https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00074-0/fulltext Of those who require hospitalisation only 2.2% will go to ICU. So the 29% you refer to has to be seen in that context, it would not apply to the 97.1% of the global population who are not infected, it would not apply to 80% of those who do get infected. And even if you DO have to go to hospital, only 2.2% go to the ICU, and of those only 7.5% die, worst case. Do you not see how tiny the risk is? And for that you'd risk blood clot, stroke, paralysis, heart inflammation etc, of the "adverse effects" that we know, to say nothing of what may come in the future? Doesn't make sense at all. Particularly in view of the fact that studies now show natural immunity is longer lasting. And in view of the leading experts like Gilbert now being on record as saying that the virus will be no worse than common cold. I mean you can recover from Covid. How are you going to recover from a clot in the brain? It's not all about numbers. What about people who have heart issue risks, and the Israeli study showing the vaccines increase the risk of heart inflammation?

Okay, I'll try to explain this, you can be hospitalised but not die of Covid19. You can get sick with Covid but not be hospitalised. You have misunderstood the quote. "The majority of those who test positive for COVID-19 will survive the disease and the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO) states that, based on available data, approximately 80% of those who test positive for COVID-19 experience a mild illness or are asymptomatic. Of the subset with complete data, 14.2% (n=2,811) were hospitalised, 2.2% (n=438) were admitted to ICU, and 7.5% (n=1,476) had died. Among those who had been admitted to ICU, 20.5% (n=90) had died." https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00074-0/fulltext The above says 80% have a mild illness or are asymptomatic, after getting Covid, not that only 20% survived. You are quite right to point out that overall, worldwide of the 2.9% of people infected globally only 1.9-2.0 per cent have actually died, not 7.5%. I assume the difference is that the Lancet only looked at people with complete data, whereas Worldometre does not.

Unfortunately the study you quote is contradicted by the recent Imperial College study which found that vaccination only provided 49% greater protection against infection, not 2900% greater protection, and that CNBC study has not been peer reviewed. There is not even a link to the CNBC study you quote, so I am assuming you have not even read it? If you want to read how the Imperial College researchers came to a completely different conclusion, you can do so here: https://spiral.imperial.ac.uk/bitstream/10044/1/90800/2/react1_r13_final_preprint_final.pdf So you really can't say that vaccinated are 29 times less likely to be hospitalised, when they are only 0.49 times less likely to be infected. Of course you also don't seem to understand that of the infected only about 14% actually are hospitalised, and of those only 2.2% go to the ICU. Thus the risk is quite small. and as we know applies more to the obese, the elderly etc. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00074-0/fulltext

Equally if people who are so afraid of the virus that they tell others what to do want to lock themselves away , that's fine too. I think you'll find people who are not that keen on getting vaccinated generally are not that afraid of the virus. You'll find the really scared people are among the vaccinated. Everyone places everyone else at risk all the time, when they step in a car they potentially put others at risk, indeed a much greater risk in Thailand than dying of Covid. Would you suggest people don't drive in Thailand, because they put others at risk? The point rather is that the risk of dying of Covid is, it turns out, a far smaller risk, than was generally assumed previously. Even the creator of the Astra-Zeneca vaccine is now on record saying this virus will be no worse than a common cold. The world has risk. To live is a risk. You can not eliminate risk if you are alive. The snowflake idea that there should be no risk is frankly misplaced.

Maybe you should read up on how many die. I had actually posted a Lancet article above, which clearly states that less than 10% die. "Of the subset with complete data, 14.2% (n=2,811) were hospitalised, 2.2% (n=438) were admitted to ICU, and 7.5% (n=1,476) had died." "The majority of those who test positive for COVID-19 will survive the disease and the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO) states that, based on available data, approximately 80% of those who test positive for COVID-19 experience a mild illness or are asymptomatic." https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00074-0/fulltext We should not forget that globally only 2.9% of the world population actually have the virus. In addition studies tell you that vaccines only protect 49%, so 51% means greater likelihood of getting infected than not getting infected. Plus there are of course the thousands of adverse events, where people had strokes, blod clots, heart inflammation, paralysis, etc, after taking the vaccine. Then studies tell you that natural immunity provides better, ie longer, protection than vaccines in any event. And finally we have Professor Dame Gilbert telling us the virus will merely be causing a common cold going forward. Looks like it was a mistake to get vaccinated, and those who opted not to get vaccinated got it right.

Sure, Lady Gaga never tried way too hard to be sexy and alluring. Have you even seen the Pokerface video? She also changed to try and be a real singer, very modest success compared to this Benedetta.

No, darling, 14.2% go to hospital, 2.2% go to the ICU, 7.5% died. It's in the article I posted. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00074-0/fulltext

What is "utter nonsense" is to suggest that Japan would declare war on China, or India. Taiwan and Japan will take on China from the east? Lol. So the US would not strike China because it is afraid of China's nuclear arsenal, but Japan would not be? Lol. Nor India. Right, right. You have to laugh. Germany did not have nuclear missiles. I think you'll find China does. Around 300 of them. So care to revise your geo-political predictions?

You are disagreeing with the Professor Dame Gilbert, who created the Astra Zeneca vaccine? Seems a bit confident on your part.

Her name is "Pranpriya", not Lisa or Lalisa. She's copying that Chinese foppishness of simply picking a Western name. It's as if I would call myself "Yichen" going forward. Nice girl though. Can't sing. But very nice mover. I would let her love me. If anyone can forward my details to her, let me know.

They're following it as much as everywhere else. Meanwhile in the actual world of science Professor Dame Sarah Gilbert, the creator of the Astra-Zeneca vaccine, speaking yesterday on a Royal Society of Medicine webinar, has said that the virus is going to be just like a common cold going forward. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/covid-19-will-just-end-up-causing-a-cold-says-oxford-vaccine-creator-sarah-gilbert-npkds93zd#top They all pretend they're making decisions based on science, to claim the kudos of science. However, when you consider how the world was shut down for a virus which only 2.9 % of the world's population actually have, for which the Lancet says that 80% of those who do get it will survive, and only 2.2% will go to the ICU, I'd say it's not you being overdramatic. This whole freakin' courtroom is being overdramatic!!!! I've long given up on governments actually following the science. I mean if governments followed the science then in 2015 when the Robert Koch Institute warned of the consequences of a coronavirus pandemic the government, to whom the evidence was presented, would have followed that advice and prepared. Of course they did not. If they don't do it in Germany, what hope for the rest of the world? https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00074-0/fulltext

Oh you think government decisions are made on the basis of scientific evidence? I'm sure that's what they told you.... So how come rules are different in each country? Is the scientific evidence different in each country?

She probably would be high maintenance. She does sing like one in a million and probably knows it very well. Goes to show there is no justice in the world when Lady Gaga is a major star but this girl who can actually sing is not.

Really? You see major conflict taking place in the South China Sea? Even though the senior US general Mark Milley has bent over sideways, backwards and forwards to assure his Chinese counterparts that the US would not strike China? Even though even Trump has confirmed he never had any intention to strike China? Even though US military have expressly declared they will not fight China on the ground? Even though China is a nuclear military power and a war started by the US would result in the total annihilation of the US and possibly the world? There will no war between China and the US. The threat of China is merely an illusion propagated by the US because the US defense industry wants to make money, because generals need to justify always increasing their budgets. In reality the likelihood of China going to war herself, given all that she has to lose in that case, is zero. A few airstrikes and a submarine embargo and the whole economy would suffer greatly.

What a supreme talent, to not only be able to sing like that, but also play the piano at the same time. Just to crush the illusion though, Benedetta has of course grabbed herself an Alpha Male, Stejpan Hauser, so she is taken unfortunately.

Yes, an antigen test would make sense, you can do that without a needle. In all likelihood authorities would insist on a PCR test one suspects, if they had the sense to allow it, which of course they don't.

You could surely, you could just get the written diagnosis from the doctor.

As for your point 1 above the Lancet has found: "The majority of those who test positive for COVID-19 will survive the disease and the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the World Health Organization (WHO) states that, based on available data, approximately 80% of those who test positive for COVID-19 experience a mild illness or are asymptomatic." Their figure for hospitalisation was 14.8%, with only 2.2% going to the ICU. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00074-0/fulltext We should also remember that only 2.9 % of the world population is infected with the virus at all, so hospitalisation figures need to be extrapolated on that basis.

That is indeed the case with the US now, however, if you do not travel to the US, say you travel to the UK instead, or to Thailand, then vaccination is not required to travel. You will however have to show tests and comply with quarantine, though you can travel to the UK and Thailand if you are not vaccinated.

That's right. A recent study has shown that those who got Covid were immune for longer than those who got the best vaccines. Of course nobody should be forced to take the vaccine, and if anyone does not want to do so they should be free not to take the vaccine. Particularly in light of the fact that the creator of the Astra-Zeneca vaccine herself has just come out with the prediction that the virus will just cause a common cold going forward. "These other coronavirus are causes of the common cold and Gilbert said: “Eventually Sars-CoV-2 will become one of those." https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/covid-19-will-just-end-up-causing-a-cold-says-oxford-vaccine-creator-sarah-gilbert-npkds93zd "Conclusions This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity." https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1

Professor Dame Sarah Gilbert, the creator of the Astra Zeneca vaccine, has said Covid is unlikely to mutate into a much deadlier variant and will eventually just cause the common cold. Speaking at a Royal Society of Medicine seminar, the scientist said viruses tend to 'become less virulent as they circulate' through the population and there was 'no reason' to think we will have a more virulent version of Sars-CoV-2. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/covid-19-will-just-end-up-causing-a-cold-says-oxford-vaccine-creator-sarah-gilbert-npkds93zd So to summarise: 1. The vaccines only prevent infection by 49% in the case of the Delta variant 2. Natural immunity is superior, ie longer lasting, than vaccine immunity 3. The creator of the Astra-Zeneca vaccine says the virus will just be like a common cold. Looks like everyone that got vaccinated made a mistake and those that did not get vaccinated got it right.

No, that is actually not the case. Vaccines only stop the likelihood of infection by 49% in the case of the Delta variant. "The researchers estimated that two doses of a Covid-19 vaccine are 49% effective at preventing infection with the delta variant, in line with recent data from Israel and much lower than previous estimates." https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/08/04/fully-vaccinated-half-as-likely-to-catch-delta-covid-variant-and-less-likely-to-infect-others-study-finds/?sh=487fcc2b281c