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Obviously the "laws" in Thailand can change in an instant and it's completely up to the authorities how they wish to enforce them.  Even this completely one-sided article from a pro-drug website admits that bringing weed in luggage is causing delays in security lines due to lack of testing equipment.  It's not a stretch to see this, as well as the attendant unpleasant smell, as sufficient grounds for "causing a nuisance" and incurring a significant fine for druggies, even incarceration if the laws are suddenly changed overnight. Or worse, corrupt airport security demanding for massive bribes so you aren't cited or jailed.

That is the reality.  Of course, if you want to listen to the advice of a bunch of potheads on the internet and risk your freedoms carrying narcotics on a commercial flight, it's up to you.  Incredibly stupid risk IMO when the drug product is available at pretty much any destination in the country.  Seems like the druggies can't wait even a few hours to ingest this supposedly non-addictive drug.

23 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

You are misusing the word "karen." A karen is "a pejorative slang term for an obnoxious, angry, entitled, and often racist middle-aged white woman who uses her privilege to get her way or police other people’s behaviors." Certainly not applicable here.

 

Forum members who have raised concerns about the potentially undesirable impact of cannabis decriminalization on road safety, crime, tourism demographics, mental and physical health, academic performance, and water resource management are not karens. This is especially true given that it is becoming increasingly clear that the Thai government has not fully thought through all the potential ramifications.

 

Such forum members, and I am proud to count myself as one, are thoughtful and socially conscious individuals who ought to be commended for their ability and willingness to focus on these social concerns, and for their unwillingness to turn a blind eye to them just because they might stand in the way of a desire to satisfy one's individual needs for gratification.

What ramifications?  You haven't said anything of substance, just promoting Refer Madness propaganda like a Karen.

5 hours ago, smedly said:

 - we are already starting to see a trend,

 

 

Can you show us the trend? TIA.

On 7/18/2022 at 9:33 AM, verticalift said:

With over 42yrs strapped into the cockpits of various types of aircraft around the world…… I’m Done’n Dusted with these clowns….!!!

 

July 2020 at 62yrs of age I was employed as a Senior Line Captain based in Abu Dhabi working 2 months “On”, followed by 1 month “Off”…… spending my “time-off” at home here in Phuket. The game plan was to continue working through to mandatory retirement age of 65yrs (June 2023) on my Senior Captains Salary. That didn’t happen. What did happen was Covid.

 

In July 2020 the company I was flying for in Abu Dhabi imposed mandatory forced retirement for all crews over the age 60yrs in an attempt to save $$$$ due Covid.

 

When crews were asked to sign a letter from HR and Flight Ops accepting and acknowledging their retirement, we were all immediately (During the same meeting) offered a new Employment Contract for the exact same job and duties, at 33% less salary as a “Contractor”. Contractors do not get benefits, or end of service pay. I said…….No.

 

Instead, I chose to return home to Phuket. After having been stuck in Abu Dhabi thru August and September, I received a call on 01 October 2020 from the Thai Embassy advising that I could go home.

 

Now fully retired from the cockpit, I also consider myself as having been very lucky in that I was able to avoid any and all of the so called “vaccines”. See attached.

 

All crews that remained were forced to get “Vax’d”, or they too would have also been “Retired” early.

 

With no more 04:15am wake-up calls…… I’m happily retired here in Phuket.

 

G’luck to all the other crews still out there flying….

 

 

 

 

This link is absurd antivax conspiratorial garbage, per the usual on this forum.

Thank god they removed a nut job like you who spread vile propaganda instead of focusing on PASSENGER SAFETY.  

On 4/25/2022 at 5:12 PM, AMcC said:

Careful there.

"ơng tây" means "Mr. Westerner".

"ôm tây" means "hug a westerner"

 It is most likely "Ông tây".

I think "Ôm Tây" would mean something closer to "hug the west".  To say "hug a westerner" you'd have to add subject context such as "ôm một người tây" or something like that.

6 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

I suspect this is a wind up as he's calling the life saving vaccines "gunk".  Probably a troll post.

Said the guy who thinks The Catholic Church is a good place to get medical information.  ????????

3 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

And if you followed Thai social media, you'd know many here got Pfizer jabs well before that.  Military, government officials, hi so's, etc.

 

I was talking about when EXPATS got PFE jabs, not the hiso-govt officials.  Yes everyone knows they got the priority, that was part of the well-documented controversy.   Not sure what the latter group has to do with anything since this is a expat forum not one for Thai Govt officials??

Just an FYI, social media not a credible source of information.  My posts are based on the reality of living here, not browsing facebook.  

3 hours ago, placeholder said:

 

Actually he CONFIRMED my info was correct:  he had to wait for 6 months!  "We just got ours, but had no luck before the 6 month date."  

So now we're trusting organized religion, progenitors of the most egregious misinformation and human suffering ever, to tells what constitutes misinformation and human rights violations?

What a clown show.

On 1/26/2022 at 5:10 PM, Jeffr2 said:

The first donation of Pfizer jabs arrived in July.

Yes and if you were here you would know that the PFE rollout for expats was very slow did not even begin until later in August, which was the cause of great controversy.  You would understand what a struggle it was for folks here to get their initial doses amidst a massively botched vaccination program.  It wasn't "easy peasy" like in the US.

If you had actually received your 2X PFE here, and not in the US, you would understand this situation.  Unfortunately you just don't seem to be able to parse the pertinent details.  

EDIT:  Just read on another thread were you stated "We just got ours, but had no luck before the 6 month date.  Even after 6 months, it was difficult."  Suffice to say you've lost all credibility.

Just now, rabas said:

Not a problem. I have a Moderna I can let you have at discount! You can take it now. The hospital *suggests* 4 months from Pfizer, 3 from AZ, but I believe they let you take it whenever you want. Mine was < 3 months.

 

Problem solved. Hospital is in Bangkok.

Which hospital?  I've contacted several who all say I must wait 6 months and/or are sold out.

On 1/26/2022 at 3:32 PM, Jeffr2 said:

Boosters ARE available for those who've had Pfizer more than 6 months ago. No matter where you got your first jabs. Not at every vaccination center, but at some for sure.

 

Use QueQ and search for THG. Super easy.

 

 

People didn't start getting PFE here until late August this year, thus NO ONE who received it in Thailand is eligible.  

On 1/25/2022 at 8:15 PM, Jeffr2 said:

Calm down. It was super easy. They just questioned where we got our vaccines. 30 seconds later, we were waiting for the jabs. Hardly squeaking by.

 

Thai Japanese youth center is also offering Pfizer boosters. But you need to wait in line.

 

I've seen thousands of people getting jabs in the past few weeks. Getting the Pfizer booster in Pattaya was hard. Bangkok was a breeze. Moderna is also easy. Just pay 1600 Baht. Easy peasy.

It may have been "super easy" for you, but that's anecdotal at best since you did not receive your initial shots in BKK.  Yes boosters are available here for some, but NOT folks who got 2X PFE here are not eligible for boosters at this time as has been relayed by several in this forum.  I've made at least 20 inquiries and all say the same thing.  You can ignore specifics and repeat "super easy" over and over again but it doesn't make it true.

Article is paywalled but seemingly written with a complete lack of awareness of noted loose compliance/enforcement.  And in their warning they've failed to identify the salient risk/scam for foreign tourists which isn't mask laws but testing positive and being detained your entire vacation at significant personal expense.  Great journalism.

2 minutes ago, steve187 said:

link please

He's talking about the US where it's five months per CDC.  For some reason this poster is always talking about vaccinations in the US despite the utter irrelevancy to the situation in Thailand.

2 hours ago, tsk3009 said:

It's seems you would get in less trouble if you would break a not so serious law, are polite about it and apologize profusely than be argumentative after committing no real offense.

You don't say...

50 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Very few there had gotten jabs in the US. We were one of the few according to them. They kinda pushed back a bit because of that, but eventually let us get the booster. Ok?

So first you say it's "super easy" and then admit you are a rare exception.  I'm sure some squeak by one way or another but the party line from every one I called has consistently been "wait 6 months" and I assure you it is anything but "super easy" in Bangkok.  

Of course it is unlikely anything will actually be available once the 6 month timepoint is reached if past experiences are any indication.  This is why people think about "getting omicron over with" rather than dealing with the endless waiting game...

Maybe these folks should focus on actually getting people boosters.  The whole thing is specious because if actually they cared about keeping people out of hospitals they'd stop the forced admission of asymptomatics.

3 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

Ummm....just got my booster Friday there.  I've had 2 Pfizer jabs already.  Got both jabs in the US, just over 6 months ago.

 

This is about "jabs" in Thailand, not US.  For those who received 2X PFE late summer in THAILAND (not US), we are not offered boosters at this time.  US experience irrelevant.

2 hours ago, JCauto said:

You have made two posts so far with a number of assertions backed up with absolutely ZERO sources of credible information. You then call others who have made posts countering your "argument" with credible sources "propaganda efforts like this have no credibility".

Hypocrite much?

Which assertions(s) are you talking about?

3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Now... Plenty folk who are dual vaccinated with Pfizer have received Moderna doses - but they have had to pay for those vaccinations at private hospitals (at a cost of approximately 1650 baht - at MedPark & Bangkok Hospital amongst a few others nationwide). 

 

 

And finally...  Thailand does not Jail or hospitalise asymptomatic foreigners. 

 

People (both Thai and Foreigner) if testing PCR positive are checked for symptoms, if they have no symptoms they are sent home to isolate.

 

 

Given your comments, I can see why you may have struggled to secure your booster - You have been listening to gossip and paid attention to more colourful and inflammatory but ultimately flawed information instead of boring facts.

No it's not "gossip".  I've contacted numerous places in Bangkok and none offer boosters for 2X PFE in Thailand, they all say they will provide booster after 6 months.  Even PFE says their vaccine is not adequate against omicron after 3 months.  

In the past month several asymptomatic folks in my building alone have been hospitalized.  That is not "gossip", you are 100% incorrect and it's been covered in many threads here.  Something is not "gossip" or "inflammatory" just because you don't agree.

BTW, I didn't advocate for folks intentionally getting sick, just pointing out the glaring disconnect between the draconian hospitalization policy vs inadequate booster program in Thailand.  It creates a quagmire for those of us who want additional protection from a booster when they are not available, and may need to travel etc.  Thus it's quite specious to offer opinion piece that is filled with endless "maybes" when boosters aren't available to all of those who seek them in the first place.

And BTW, I thought literature like the OP posted is supposed to be supported by credible scientific literature?  The only reference offered in the entire article is from April 2021, about 6 months before Omicron was detected in SA.  This an opinion piece masquerading as valid medical information.  If any of the antivaxers infesting this forum were to post an article with valid citations it would be deleted quickly.

So if boosters are so great why aren't they offered to those who were vaccinated 2X with Pfizer here?

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Dunno about in Thailand, but I was so over it a month after it started.

The worst of the unintended consequences of lockdowns are, IMO, not yet happening, and things are IMO going to get a great deal worse, till they get better, if they do actually get better, and that's not guaranteed, IMO.

"Over it" yet posting on the covid forum obsessively like a child posessed.

On 1/5/2022 at 3:29 PM, BritManToo said:

Looks like you are the reincarnation of a previously banned poster.

Your new life, on ignore.

Incorrect baby boy.  You're just afraid to answer a valid question concerning your unhealthy obsession with covid.

22 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

So much for that South African doctor.

There is absolutely no new information offered in this article by the CEO who is obviously engaged in a promotional effort on a financial news channel (which is fine, it's his job to pump the company which is certainly a respected frontrunner).  All he's doing is reiterating the scientific consensus that this variant looks quite bad on paper, just as WHO has.

Nothing he says casts doubt on the SA MD who simply reported their real-world clinical experience with a small group of young patients infected with the new variant. Not sure why some are so quick to dismiss what this clinician reported, I have seen nothing to suggest compromised credibility.

To my knowledge there are scant data on clinical outcomes from this variant to date, which seems the real story.  It's early days and we just have to wait for more robust data.  

8 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

Do you live alone?

He already volunteered this information and actually seems to be taking very responsible precautions.