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China has a zero covid policy as well. A single case and a million plus get tested, enforced lockdowns and 21 day quarantine upon entry into the country. The UK is concerned Thailand hasn't adequate genome sequencing and doesn't know what's going on. A la virtually no proactive testing compared to a million tests a day in the UK. There was nearly 70,000 at the Joshua fight last night in London. I would worry about Thailand not the UK. Nice to know of your concern though. Thoughtful.

Your wasting your time with him. The Thai government endangered their citizens at over crowded, covid spreading scrums to get a headline, so their misguided apologists could post on forums like this.

The UK started much earlier because they pre-ordered different vaccines. Including help fund the AZ vaccine development. Thailand thought it could get a bargain basement price when the world was awash with vaccine. As usual, the facts get in the way of your daily anti-west bashing.

You still haven't answered the question of what the opening up of the borders looks like for tourists? What's that 'getting back to normality' look like in terms of restrictions? With a paltry 100,000 plus jabs yesterday, it evened out . More playing to the gallery for gullibles like you.

@Kadilo You going to answer my question?

The weather's always perfect in Thailand.

Seems like a lot of contributors on this forum like to complain about the price of things in their home country. Maybe if they hadn't burned their bridges and kept that asset, they would be in a different place financially, emotionally and mentally.

The history in civilised Western countries is that property goes up in value overtime. People still want to get on the property ladder, raise a family and pass on the asset to their heirs. Covid has accelerated that trend. The race for space. Investing in anything in a third world toilet like Thailand is a complete and utter lottery. You know the odds of winning in a lottery.

You either help your citizens or you don't. UK choose to protect people's jobs and livelihoods. It's a model most civilised western nations followed. Thailand doesn't give a fiddlers about it's poor. Highest amount of wealth concentrated in smallest percentage of population in SE Asia. Regarding the economics, i wouldn't believe the facts and figures coming out of any SE Asian country. You just have to look at the Chinese property ponzi scheme, Evergrande. The empty condo's that abound in Pattaya etc for evidence of that.

Sarah Gilbert, who created the AZ vaccine, has said she thinks Delta is as bad as it gets. The point you make about hospitalisations is crucial. Pressure on any countries healthcare system is the defining metric going forward.

Too vague, Be more precise. Define opened up. Quarantine free entry into Thailand? No COE required for entry? The threat of enforced incarnation, if testing positive, removed?

Good point. A couple of Pattaya bar owners/you tubers put a video up a couple of days ago, with some 'well connected ' visa agent. They were bouncing about soi 7, thinking there was going to be an imminent reopening of BKK and the cash tills would be ringing for high season. I think they are going to be very disappointed.

Don't believe everything you read in the Daily Mail. Blighty will do just fine thanks. Those of us that still own tangible assets in the UK are scraping by. https://www.forbes.com/uk/advisor/personal-finance/2021/09/15/house-prices-updates/ House prices up 11% year on year. Meanwhile the Pattaya shoebox owners will be lucky to get pennies on the pound if they tried to sell. You always find the most gobby on here are the ones who have burned their bridges and can look forward to a frozen state pension and having to learn mandarin to speak to their new neighbours. I'll stick to pick'n'mixing Thailand to suit me thanks. Now where's that calculator?

and with the virus they went to be protected against.

Wanted 35000 baht, approx £800, for covid tests so the elderly Canadian couple could go to tourist sights. Basically said, 'If we had known how bad the regulations would be, we would have gone to Portugal.'

No it's where the government supports thousands of businesses so they don't go bust. Now the UK has reopened, these businesses start trading again, paying taxes, commercial rent and employees national insurance. It's called thinking ahead and being proactive to stop a depression. TVF's resident economic genuises can be relied upon to trot out the usual ill informed nonsense. Meanwhile, residing in a third world toilet that does nothing for it's own citizens and businesses.

To be fair, their will no doubt be exacting vaccine production procedures. Your certificate validity makes sense. Can't imagine a digital global solution to certificates anytime soon with the state of global politics. The whole thing is a complete mess, tit for tat retaliation will no doubt ensue.

Just like the UK doesn't believe any of Thailand's facts and figures regarding testing, ability to keep track of covid variants etc, they most likely don't trust the Thai's to not make a mess of producing the vaccine. Yes, stupid for ever making Thailand their home. Don't come back to the UK. Simple.

Yeah real stupid. - helped fund Oxford University create AZ vaccine to help get the world out of this mess. (possibly injected in your arm.) - one of the world's largest genome sequencing capabilities to discover and warn the rest of the world of new variants of concern. - a furlough scheme to support businesses and employees through the worst of the pandemic. - donating vaccines globally to third world countries (like Thailand). Maybe you got a donated AZ vaccine in your arm FOC gifted from the UK. Keep your ill informed and bigoted opinions to yourself. Now, care to tell us where your from?

Meanwhile - https://inews.co.uk/news/covid-19-like-common-cold-next-spring-experts-worst-pandemic-over-1213893 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10020767/Covid-Covid-Moderna-boss-expects-pandemic-year.html https://inews.co.uk/news/covid-variant-vaccine-resist-immunity-more-severe-oxford-jab-sarah-gilbert-1212744 "Bring me sunshine ..............

And on a slightly less serious issue, the nit picking bureaucracy that awaits returning 'tourists'.

Any period of quarantine will be unacceptable to 99.9% of tourists. Unless your free to walk to a taxi after clearing immigration, then nobody but returnees is coming. People keep quoting 70% as the herd immunity level, it is more likely that herd immunity will never be achievable.

Good.

It did fail. They forecast 100,000 got at most 30,000. Only 6,000 estimated real tourists. Families being separated, with children taken off to hospital, isn't the easiest sell in the world for Thomas Cook. UK's domestic tourist areas like Cornwall, have received record bookings for next summer. Tells you all you need to know about the future of Thai tourism. No one's coming.

Many think it's 90% plus or quite simply herd immunity isn't possible. Singapore reintroduced restrictions after a week of opening up. Johnson hasn't ruled out similar restrictions to last year in the UK during the winter. I will repeat again. If enough pressure is put on a countries healthcare system, restrictions will be reintroduced.