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22 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:
To be honest, and I can't speak for others - I've go so used to doing both that I don't feel right without doing either.
I'l put my hands up and say I do ride my Scoopy to the village shop occasionally without a helmet. However, that's 2km up a country lane where the other traffic is very slow and there's not much of it. I wouldn't dream of going anywhere near a major road on either the Scoopy or my ER6.
With seatbelts, if I don't put mine on, it just doesn't feel right and I have to put it on within a few metres.
Yeh I understand, my girlfriend does the same, but you only have to be t-boned by a another bike or car & the force of your head hitting the ground is enough to cause a fractured skull or possibly worse, the chances of having an accident pottering around your quite little thai village without a helmet is minimal, but there are a few individuals who race around without any consideration for anyone but themselves, like they say in Thailand, it's up to you.......
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39 minutes ago, quake said:
Total rubbish.
There are no 39 baht motor bike crash helmets. 150 baht yes.
They would provide some protection at normal speeds around town.
Stop your Bs.
Sorry my mistake, you are absolutely spot on, there is no way you can buy a motorcycle helmet for 39 baht, i forgot to add the delivery charge that would bump up the total cost to 77 baht, it all still sounds too good to be true & possibly a cheap copy of the original, I wasn't sure whether I could put the link on here for you to see, but it starts with a capital L & ends in a lower case a......Have a look & let me know if it has a slight resembelance to the ones that are supplied with rented bikes?
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9 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:
The point he makes is that they are extremely cheap and are relatively ineffective compared to approved helmets we are used to in many of our home nations.
The protection such helmets may provide is somewhat minimal from an impact point of view, such helmets may protect from scratches etc their effectiveness as ‘helmet’ minimal - my Son’s bicycle helmet is significantly better than these ‘plastic lids’ you seem to be sticking up for.
There is also the additional facet that ‘renters’ without a better option use such helmets - rental agencies should be forced to provide proper helmets.
I rented a motorcycle while sandboxing in Phuket, I bought my own helmet.
Thank you, you obviously don't wear the cheap helmets as you have some brains & common sense that needs protecting.....
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44 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:
But clearly most any helmet is better than none, yes?
So you never rode without a helmet or drove without a seatbelt?
I'm no expert on helmets, but if it hasn't been tested it could cause more harm than good, no I have never rode my motorcycle without a helmet or driven a car within a seatbelt ........
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3 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:A lot of high and mighty views beig aired here and the discussion seems to be becoming more general than specifically about the accident that was the subject of the OP.
When considering why these accidents happen and the consequences of them, we should not forget the role that Thailand itself plays in these matters.
Insurance: The country only requires a rider to have the woefully inadequate compulsory insurance. The majority of accidents involving foreigners seem to involve rented bikes. It would be far better if rental companies were compelled to provide full insurance as they are in most civilised countries and check that the renter hold a licence to ride a bike. Of course that would cost a lot more but its how it is elswhere and with good reason.
Crash Helmets: There is a high disregard for the law on helmets both within the Thai community and with foreigners. I have never seen anyone not wearing a crash helmet in the UK since the helmet law came in in 1973. Why? Because in the UK the law is actually enforced and you wouldn't get far without being stopped if you weren't wearing one.
Traffic laws are obeyed by most in civilised countries because a). The punishments are quite severe and b). The police only report the offence, they don't collect the fine and put in in their back pocket.
Insurance: Whether native of foreign, in most countries that I know, proper insurance must be held. Insurance that gives adequate personal and 3rd party medical cover. Agan, this law is properly enforced.
Licences: Again, law enforcement in civilised countries ensures that the vast majority of people hold the correct licence for their vehicle.
Yes, all these things would require enforcement and changes to the law in the case of insurance but those changes are necessary. People, especially holiday makers never think they will be involved in an accident when they rent their 100cc scooter but these people are exactly the ones who would benefit from an overhaul of the laws/insurance/law enforcement.
I've lost count of the times I've seen young female tourists wobbling around on rented bikes in popular tourist areas. The same people can be seen in the bars/discos at night with bandaged legs etc. and they are the lucky ones.
Thailand likes to think of itself as a developing country but in terms of traffic laws etc. its very much still third world.
One of the attractions Thailand holds for ex-pats is the lack of over regulation but some things are very necessary - especially when it concerns your safety.
Well said, maybe anyone who wants to rent a bike should watch a video like the one you are made to watch when applying for a Thai bike licence & also be made aware of how dangerous it is to ride a bike in Thailand & that the driving manerism is nothing like it is in there own country, take for instance, never assume it safe to proceed on a green light, there's always someone jumping a red light & don't expect to have right of way once your on a roundabout, obviously this will never happen as its going to take up time & money.......
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41 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:
That a poor fitting helmet could possibly come off in an accident seems like a pretty weak excuse for not wearing one.
I used to ride a bit, I hated wearing a helmet.
No this isn't the case, some people were saying that he may of not been wearing one, he was drunk & using his phone before the accident, all I was saying is that if he was wearing one it would been one of cheap ones with minimal protection & that I doubt it would of gave him much protection from a head injury, I've seen these helmets, thin plastic, hardly any cushioning inside & poor chin strap, you can buy them for less than 50 baht online, I've never used them myself for the obvious reasons, I have a couple of helmets that I bought from the u.k that have a good Sharp Safety Rating & i know its not much fun wearing one here, but I would never ride without one, same goes for wearing a seat belt.......
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24 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:
So are you claiming the helmet likely came off in the accident?
No, I'm just citing the facts that you need to wear a helmet that fits correctly to the size of your head & that in some cases a poorly fitted helmet could possibly come of in an accident & that the ones that are supplied by motorcycle renters give minimal protection in a serious accident.
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39 minutes ago, Myran said:
Absolute nonsense. Even a cheap "skateboard helmet" is better than no protection and can mark the difference between life and death. Especially in accidents at lower speeds, where you aren't necessarily skidding across the ground, but rather just suffer an initial fall and need protection against that one impact to your head.
There is also no such thing as a one size fits all Motorcycle Helmet, in correctly fitting helmets can actually come off in an accident, ill take back what I said to describe the helmets to skateboarders helmets as they cost 700baht more than ones you are given when hiring a Motorcycle.
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39 minutes ago, soalbundy said:
Insurance probably wouldn't help in this case, they usually disqualify motor bike driving and in addition he was probably over the limit, did he even have an international license? I see only one end to this and it isn't good.
If he has a bike licence in the u.k he should be insured, one insurer I used a few years ago said if I didn't have a u.k bike licence I wouldn't be covered, they also wouldn't except my Thai licence, I now take out extra bike insurance as well as the compulsory government insurance, but even that doesn't cover for a serious accident......
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Anyone who has ever rented a bike in Thailand would of been given something that would resemble a skateboard helmet that would offer no protection at all unless you was on a skateboard or possibly rollerskates, so whether this poor chap was wearing one I very much doubt the outcome would of been any different, you can't expect a to pay 39 baht for a helmet & expect it to be if any use in an accident.......
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13 minutes ago, KhunLA said:
It amazes me the amount (per capita) of farang tourist & expats ride without a helmet. One guy locally has it strapped to his bike, but not his head. I'd guess 75-90% of farangs I see here, don't where a helmet.
Yeh me too, I've seen a family of tourists on a scooter with a small child, no helmets I really don't get it......
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There's a few heartless comments as usual for the misfortune of others, but they are probably the kind of people that think they are so perfect, but just remember that anyone of us can be wiped out or maimed for life in an instance,
even more so if you live here permanently, but in the unlikely event of it happening to you or your family or friends, don't be looking for much sympathy on here.....
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Before I had even started to read this, I thought that the tourist had woken the driver from his micro sleep, so it was of no surprise that the tourists possibly had, im sure I would be able to tell if someone is nodding off or picking something up off the floor, my last visa run I had a month ago was surprisingly a good experience, he kept to the speed limit & didnt nod off as he was looking at his phone for most of the journey probably texting.......
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21 hours ago, Tayida said:
I always used Lazada, but after they don't refund me what they should refund, I changed to Shopee. Right now, after four years using them, no issues at at all. Finger crossed.
Can you be more specific in them not refunding you what they should?
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I've started paying with my phone as the cashier always gives the change to the customer behind me.....
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Why is this news?
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That's gonna raise a few eyebrows ????????
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17 hours ago, DrJack54 said:
No and No
O.k Thanks.....
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34 minutes ago, Bazerino said:
Sorry just one more thing, if i go through a land border instead will i still need a flight ticket out of the country or proof of accomadation?
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Just now, Bazerino said:
That's great, thanks for all your help, if its just proof of a flight out of the country then ill be going for the 45 days & then extend for a month, I've seen a flight with Thai airways with a flexible option to change flight date for an extra fee, but will look at these throw away tickets, real tickets etc.....
Cheers
Baz
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2 hours ago, DrJack54 said:
For a visa exempt entry the requirement for onward flight from nearby countries will be required by airline at departure.
The term "throw away ticket" actually means a real ticket that you don't intend to use.
Eg cheapest flight out of Thailand.
A "rent a ticket" is a real ticket and can be checked by airline. No problem.
It self destructs in short time frame eg 48hours.
Cost much less ~15usd.
A real throw away ticket is `~1500baht. Both work.
Proof of accommodation not required.
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23 hours ago, DrJack54 said:
Yes it would need to be within 45 (normally 30)
If it's a rent a ticket or throw away ticket or one you plan to cancel the return date is just to satisfy airline.
O.K., thanks for your help much appreciated, are these throw away tickets fool proof, can they be checked etc? oh & just one more thing, will i need to show proof (booking) of accommodation for my entire stay like if i was applying for a visa?
23 hours ago, DrJack54 said:Yes it would need to be within 45 (normally 30)
If it's a rent a ticket or throw away ticket or one you plan to cancel the return date is just to satisfy airline.
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49 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:
A return flight to the countries you mention flying visa exempt would almost certainly require an onward flight for the airline on return leg.
Proof of funds is very rarely required (almost never) however 20k baht not huge bucks.
Depending on your passport country you may be able to enter Vietnam visa exempt. Just an added option.
Would it have to be within the 45 day visa except as I want to extend it for another month after this.....
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15 hours ago, DrJack54 said:
So your 30 day extension to tv will end mid Feb.
Perfect timing for a border bounce and visa exempt entry prior to march 31.
That will give you 45 days + you can extend by 30.
That achieves your stay.
Your main issue is location Krabi.
Suggest you look at options flight wise to somewhere such as Udon Thani with easy run to Nong Khai or best flight option from Krabi .
You don't need another tourist visa for your plan
I'm happy to fly out for a couple of weeks to either Malaysia, Laos, Cambodia & then fly back, apart from possibly Vaccination proof, will I have to show proof of funds or an onward flight ticket?
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Thanks for pointing that out to me, my mistake, but its still ridiculously cheap & you still can't expect paying 149 baht for a helmet to be of any use in a serious accident?