Hellfire

2 hours ago, oldcpu said:

It is sad if that happens.

 

But the simple fact is they are not Thai citizens,  they likely have not been paying Thai tax, and their presence here in Thailand is due to the grace of the Thai people and the Thai government.  

 

It's not uncommon for expats in Asia ( and not just in Thailand) who run into financial problems,  have no choice but to return home to the country of their citizenship.

 

As harsh as it may read, Thailand is not interested in those who don't follow Thai law. This is IMHO especially true when it comes to financial matters. Thailand puts in place financial requirements for foreigners to long term stay in Thailand to benefit Thai citizens  and not as a social benefit to foreigners having difficult financial times.

 

Maybe its sad but that is true for most countries and not just Thailand. 

Keep on posting. The posts like this one make my mood better for a couple of days, at least. Btw, what about the benefits that numerous Thai citizens involved in the “scheme” get? Why do you count them out?

10 hours ago, Drumbuie said:

Which is going to get considerably more problematic now that Immigration has a database and its officers are really learning how to use it. I obtained my original visa extension on the grounds of retirement myself and am about to renew it. It has been a steep learning curve but I know exactly where I stand.

A friend who lives in a Bangkok condo ( which she owns) used an agent and whatever he did, when she tried to renew it herself CW threw it out because he'd applied using an address outside Bangkok ( I didn't memorise the details but that was the gist), now she's stuck with using and paying the same agent.

What a disaster! 

Just keep sending your hard earned, already taxed savings to the Thai bank accounts. Everything together will be double taxed as a lump sum somewhere in the January 2025. 

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Foolish statement imo.

You started a thread about agent for retirement process and have been given sound advice.

Why not stick to topic. 

The advice was appreciated. Thank you. 
And I have never really made what you called a “statement”. Hence the word “probably” that I used. My personal observations show that people can look at things differently. Very often, in a bizarre way.

https://www.bikesrepublic.com/english/archive/10-countries-with-the-highest-proportion-motorcycle-related-deaths/

1 hour ago, Mike Lister said:

There's that word culture again , you use that a lot. Corruption is cultural, prostitutions is cultural, whatever next, drunk driving is cultural perhaps?

 Not only drunk driving, but drunk driving to death (especially on the bike) is actually quite a cultural thing here. At least, that is the conclusion I came to after witnessing dozens of those kind of deaths. Rare , very rare will you listen from a Thai person a speech condemning those stupid idiots (most of them quite young) for not taking care about their safety on the road.  Sounds weird? Yes, for me and you. Possibly, the Thais treat the death itself differently than you and me,  both, let me guess, hopeless atheists. But for millions of Thais it is probably one of the many ways to get a new identity and to be reborn again. Who knows? Not me. And I think not you too.

1 hour ago, Mike Lister said:

There's that word culture again , you use that a lot. Corruption is cultural, prostitutions is cultural, whatever next, drunk driving is cultural perhaps?

 My guess, many laws and regulations in Thailand are already made with the bribery potential consideration attached to them. Denying those things is actually more “illegal”, in some ways, than just conforming to them.  We are guests here and should respect the local traditions (notwithstanding what we think about them from the depth of our own experience).

2 hours ago, proton said:

 

Yes via bribery and corruption!

This makes “the agency way” even more attractive in my eyes. Given everything else is equal - I myself will always prefer to go “via bribery and corruption”. 
 

 Can I buy a car in Thailand on a tourist visa? I think I cannot, just asking. Same question about getting a driver license. 

1 hour ago, novacova said:

Well there are, but personally I don’t/wouldn't use that method. Being I’m 100% independent and self reliant.

Have you heard about those possible tax changes? The money I will bring to cover those 800.000 k requirements might theoretically be later taxed at around 20-30%. Nobody knows what exactly will happen but it is definitely a possibility.

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

You already have the Thai bank account so that's very handy.

You cannot do anything in regards to obtaining the Non O retirement which is first step for the agent.

If you wish to come to Thailand prior to turning 50 you could obtain a SETV in own country.

That gives you 60 days and can be extended by 30.

By then you will be 50.

 

There is a current thread asking about agent. 

Will attach the links.

My post in this thread has links to 2 threads. 

Also one specific to Pattaya.

Maneerat is one often recommended.

There are others. 

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1316124-retirement-visa-agent-recommendations/ 

 

"I have a bank account but prefer not to put my 800 k into it. Will an agency help me with that?" 

Answer: yes

 

 

 

I am already in Thailand on a tourist visa from the embassy in Laos. It will end (including 1 month extension) about 2 weeks before my 50 birth date. This is why I want to know if there is a way to somehow skip those 2 weeks to avoid another trip to Vientiane. 
I think I will contact Maneerat quite soon.

Thank you

What If I have a couple of months before I turn 50? Should I wait or something can already be done?

1 hour ago, Seppius said:

Where do you live in Thailand?

Pattaya

1 hour ago, novacova said:

Do you have a bank account with 800k? (400k married)

 

or do you need advice on circumventing that requirement?

I have a bank account but prefer not to put my 800 k into it. Will an agency help me with that?

26 minutes ago, bignok said:

What is a net Idol?

A person (usually a female) who regularly posts her half-naked pictures on Instagram and has at least 1000 followers. 

How many “net idols” are there in the world?

That is a true sensation. Never before the number of tourists in Thailand decreased in March and April. 

Thailand, in many ways, is a dangerous place for foreigners. The illusion of happiness and its absolute accessibility is stronger here than anywhere else in the world. And, of course, like any illusion, it leaves a mark on those who get disappointed in it. Many people are able to understand and realize the falsehood of everything here in time and rebuild their lives, but some pursue the illusion to the end. Also, my signature describes the story of the broken foreigners in Thailand in the best way possible.

I wish I could interrogate her myself

OP, are you vaccinated? 

5 hours ago, PJ71 said:

they still got masks on - lol

It is to cover the traces of the white powder on their noses

Is sex related to  “health” or “entertainment”? Or, may be, “culture” or even “sports”?

The Dutch guy will probably win at the court and the Thai woman will most certainly keep all the money to herself. A draw.