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Alcoholics with co-exisiting sex addiction
Andy F replied to Andy F's topic in I Drink Too Much Forum
In which case, enjoy and have fun ???????????? -
Alcoholics with co-exisiting sex addiction
Andy F replied to Andy F's topic in I Drink Too Much Forum
I hope it's the real deal Dr Tom and she doesn't fleece you ???? -
https://www.aa.org/dr-bobs-farewell-talk Have a great 24 Neeraman!????????????
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Alcoholics with co-exisiting sex addiction
Andy F replied to Andy F's topic in I Drink Too Much Forum
Why do I get the impression that you have a huge chip on your shoulder about life itself? -
I'm an agnostic in AA and am 25 years happily sober in AA. It was suggested by some God squad bleeding deacon on this platform that I can't be a real alcoholic if I don't believe in Hod. I was a homeless and hopeless drunk for years before I came to AA. What about Jim Burwell? He was an early member of AA that was an atheist. He was responsible for convincing Bill W to include "as we understand him" in steps 3 and 11. Moreover, because of Jim, Bill included the word "suggested" in Chapter 5 of the Big Book. "Here are the steps we took which are "suggested" as a program of recovery" As the result of working through the first 9 steps, I am the grateful recipient of a "non-God-centered" spiritual awakening. In the words of Dr. Bob, I try and keep the program simple. "Love and service to others" is the basis of my spiritual awakening. Check out Dr. Bobs Farewell talk online
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Alcoholics with co-exisiting sex addiction
Andy F replied to Andy F's topic in I Drink Too Much Forum
I have lost two close buddies in AA as the direct result of co-existing sex addiction. May they R.I.P. ???????????? -
Alcoholics with co-exisiting sex addiction
Andy F replied to Andy F's topic in I Drink Too Much Forum
Why then are you on a page entitled "I drink too much"? -
Alcoholics with co-exisiting sex addiction
Andy F replied to Andy F's topic in I Drink Too Much Forum
100% correct Neeraman. Only another alcoholic will agree with your last statement. By the way, The DSM 5 also agrees with you. DSM 5 = The diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders -
Alcoholics with co-exisiting sex addiction
Andy F replied to Andy F's topic in I Drink Too Much Forum
You're obviously not an alcoholic, otherwise you would be in a world of trouble with that kind of mindset. -
Alcoholics with co-exisiting sex addiction
Andy F replied to Andy F's topic in I Drink Too Much Forum
Thank you Neeraman. I had two close buddies in AA. Both of them died as a direct result of sex and love addiction. Admittedly, they both died by going back to drink and drugs. The trigger for relapse was sex and love addiction. Check out the movie "Shame" - Sex and love addiction is no different to any other substance addiction -
Well said Neeranam! ????????????
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Alcoholics with co-exisiting sex addiction
Andy F replied to Andy F's topic in I Drink Too Much Forum
Agreed! Addiction is an illness that is progressive due to a total loss of control over the addictive behaviour -
Alcoholics with co-exisiting sex addiction
Andy F replied to Andy F's topic in I Drink Too Much Forum
Exactly Neeranam. If alcoholics admit that rigorous honesty is the only thing thats going to help them get well, then sadly, they wont be making much progress with the "spiritual malady" acting out on sex and love addicition -
Alcoholics with co-exisiting sex addiction
Andy F replied to Andy F's topic in I Drink Too Much Forum
So true! Thanks for sharing -
New blog: What does it mean to be an atheist, agnostic. or freethinker in 12-step recovery? https://aaforagnostics.com/blog/what-is-an-agnostic/
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Alcoholics with co-exisiting sex addiction
Andy F replied to Andy F's topic in I Drink Too Much Forum
Thanks for sharing that. I really liked what you had to say! ???????????? -
Alcoholics with co-exisiting sex addiction
Andy F replied to Andy F's topic in I Drink Too Much Forum
As an addict and alcoholic, the word "limit" wasn't a part of my vocabulary. I am forever grateful for the 12 steps ???????????? -
Alcoholics with co-exisiting sex addiction
Andy F replied to Andy F's topic in I Drink Too Much Forum
It was in Thailand I had my rock bottom. Got recovery in London. Now retired in Thailand with the same (age appropriate) lady for almost a decade ???????????? -
I was over 20 years sober in AA when I succumbed to sex addiction. Thankfully, I didnt drink but I went on a massive dry drunk. I became so unwell acting out with sex addiction that I had to redo the 12 steps again in the SLAA program https://slaafws.org/ I hope you like the blog about this aspect of the spiritual illness https://aaforagnostics.com/blog/sex-addiction/
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I was over 20 years sober in AA when I succumbed to sex addiction. Thankfully, I didnt drink but I went on a massive dry drunk. I became so unwell acting out with sex addiction that I had to redo the 12 steps again in the SLAA program https://slaafws.org/ I hope you like the blog about this aspect of the spiritual illness https://aaforagnostics.com/blog/sex-addiction/
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The “God” word pamphlet In May 2017, the ‘general service conference’ of Alcoholics Anonymous approved and published a pamphlet that was called The “God” word. It was a very important event for all atheists, agnostics and freethinkers that come to AA to get sober. As I mentioned in a previous blog this pamphlet was inspired and initiated by an AA group in London. It is known as the Thursday Islington Atheist, Agnostic and Freethinkers group. This blog will not be about the creation and publication of the pamphlet. Rather, it will focus on the very first line of this all-important piece of AA literature.....................continue to the blog: https://aaforagnostics.com/blog/is-aa-a-religion/
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Thanks for sharing that Aussieroaming ????????????
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For an alcoholic, I believe AA meetings are a good habit. The bad habit is over thinking or "stinking thinking" as it has been called in AA. This seems true whether the alcoholic is drinking or not. The good thing about AA meetings is that they gradually replace negative thinking habits with positive ones ????????????
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When newcomers arrives in AA, they soon notice the slogans hanging on the walls of the meeting. Among them is the slogan "Keep it simple" The newly sober member, still dazed and confused coud be forgiven for asking "keep what simple? What is it in AA that I'm supposed to keep simple"? Here is an interpretation of this simple slogan that, as an agnostic in AA has meaning for me. Hope you like the blog https://aaforagnostics.com/blog/keep-it-simple-meaning/