oustaristocrats

His cars are already being boycotted by his once fellow academic supporters. I can't wait to see the 'dream team' start operating Jan 20, the 73m+ will soon get the price they voted.

Because of his political ambitions, and teaming up with a controversial team, the Musk empire will gradually decay, first signs already visible: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/nov/29/tesla-owners-elon-musk

Wrong or right, the recent political engagement of Musk, not only regarding this statement on the UK but in many directions, think about US elections and his upcoming lead in severe cost cutting initiatives where mm people will lose their livelihoods, X in Brazil and Europe, war in Ukraine. He joined a team with a -put it mildly- controversial political stance, this will eventually erode his business empire, think alone about the TESLA brand, customer could start to boycot these products, many alternative brands nowadays. Mr Musk is making a big bet which his colleague billionaires never made, they are waiting to see the demise at the sidelines, currently beneficial to them too. Interesting to see this happen.

Yes, and the amazing thing is that he found 73+ million people to believe it. To me it only says something about the IQ of these people. They will find out soon.

Yes, but that's what lawyers always do. It is the definition of a lawyers job. That's why lawyers are the best liars in the world, they are used to manipulate, hide, finding loopholes. At least in Thailand they get a few years behind bars, in the west they get nothing, on the contrary, the lawyers who kept OJ Simpson out of jail, are on the favorite list of other criminals and enjoy life like celebrities.

Yes, but that's what lawyers always do. It is the definition of a lawyers job. That's why lawyers are the best liars in the world, they are used to manipulate, hide, finding loopholes. At least in Thailand they a few years behind bars, in the west they get nothing, on the contrary, the lawyers who kept OJ Simpson out of jail, are on the favorite list of other criminals.

" ... lured by fraudulent schemes.." What kind of schemes ? Promising what ? It is missing in the report. Taiwan is a modern, developed country. What these women can gain by going to Thailand or Myanmar under conditions which are not clear upfront ?

Yes, like the western car important tax, it is 328% ! And for 2nd hand cars, it was even banned by General Prayut, I believe in 2013. Unbelievable. Even Thai living abroad, returning home can't bring back their own car. Mathematically this is called an infinite tariff.

https://www.firstpost.com/world/united-states/us-presidential-election-donald-trump-win-americans-leaving-country-moving-abroad-13833457.html

What is this kind of an idiot response ? I am just sharing an information. 49 is the number of your cell ?

What is this kind of an idiot response ? I am just sharing an information. 49 is the number of your cell ?

Elon Musk his daughter is doing it. She is not a celebrity, but someone of a much larger group of people with principles ?

Yes, I agree to this statement, that's what I meant by stating in this thread 'just watch the supporters on TV for a few minutes, then you know enough. Garbage" However, I started to think about numbers 73+ million voters, garbage ? That can't be true, there were also millions with a decent background, maybe they share concerns with the Dems. This brought me to the question : is there anything in the Rep program I would support ? Looking to Europe, there is one top issue which made people vote on right wing parties recently: illegal immigrants, and the link to criminality. I think this is a top issue in the US as well, because the right wing parties in EU have no miracle economic solutions, people voted for them because of the immigrants and asylants. I see similarities with the US. Me and many voters over here would support Trump's deportation approach, only in Europe this is almost impossible to implement. This is a big plus for Trump, he can and will do it. The dems have underestimated, even Harris was in charge of immigration laws, so if you are not ultra-left, why would people vote for her ? It's a pity, because only good intention can't win from the mass of garbage + a minority good ones. The only thing (hope) is that 'the Garbage' has a short memory, if Trump can't bring them the lower Gallon price, they might switch again in 4 years. Trump knows this fate and therefore I think he will do anything do fulfil the dreams of his supporters, even when this means stepping out of treaties, isolationism, drilling oil, saving on climate change protection measures. Hitler in the 30ties satisfied 'his Garbage' by the War machine. Trump has other ways to fund the wishes of his folks.

In this case, leaving the country is maybe not something people will talk about in full openness, because 'the eyes' are watching you everywhere, the blacklists already exist, the instruments, lawyers, up to sending the army into the streets. 'You are either with or against us'. I read that even Biden, and respected opponents like Cheney will be hunted and put behind bars. The time ressembles the 30-ties in Germany, Hitler was in power, they picked opponents from the streets. If people want to escape, they prepare in silence. I am not talking about celebrities in particular of course.

Yes, let them try out for the next 4 years. I am very curious how much they will pay for the liter gallon the coming years, and in the supermarket. This was the only thing interesting to give their vote, but if you look these people on TV, what do you expect more ? What worries me most is their shortsighted opinion draws rest of world into deeper troubles of apocalyptic proportions, like the counter measures of climate change, step out of treaties, 'drill, drill, drill'. This will eventually become a boomerang but then these leaders are gone. Ukraine isn't just about Ukraine, you can indeed end this war in one or two days, let the other take the land, it is far away, it is not our backyard, we don't care, the agressor can select its next victim. Let them find out themselves, we talk again in 4 years.