ChicagoExpat

Yes -- the concert attack? The United States and Jews! The Dagestan attack? The Brits (and likely Jews)! And the funny thing is the people most likely to believe this are not Russians themselves but their fellow travelers who enjoy life in the West -- the Gweilomans, the BangkokBobs, etc. Russians know what they're fed is BS but know that to question it leads to unfortunate results. The useful idiots naive lap it up and ask for more.

Nothing you posted addressing the real issue -- that a Ukrainian missile injured/killed civilians as part of its defense of its own country. Unfortunate but that's what happens when Russia starts a needless war (there is no such thing as an SMO). You RARELY address the actual substance of a comment and always go with "Look a squirrel!" If you wanted to substantively counter my debunking of your claim, you'd post evidence that it was NOT a downed missile but that, for some reason, a beach (!) with civilians was the actual target. Feel free to do so.

Well, Gweiloman, there was "no attack on a civilian beach". It was an intercepted missile that unfortunately fell on civilians. This is the problem when you rely on Eastern Axis media for your information -- they actually do exactly what you say above and when they do it's a lie. So, this is YOUR chance to condemn Russia's war (no such thing as an SMO) as disgusting, sickening, despicable, etc. Because all of these people you allegedly care about are dead because of the war (no such thing as an SMO) you "condone." The difference is the Russians purposefully, regularly from the start of this war (no such thing as an SMO) target civilians. See the difference? Russia starts a war (no such thing as an SMO) and is responsible for ALL deaths overall in the war (no such thing as an SMO), in the same way Germany was for WW2.

Seeing as this is a forum for discussing what we all think, I'm surprised my inquiries came as such a shock. In no post have I ever tried to persuade you that will Ukraine will win or lose; the only things I have argued anywhere is that 1) Russia's actions are wrong and should be opposed 2) Russia's supporters in the West argue dishonestly 3) you are a prime example of #2. "You never care" but post frequently, ALWAYS reflecting the pro-Russia POV.

Except your posts 100% align with Kremlin talking points, so there's that. There's a weird dishonesty in the pro-Russian crowd and it exists across platforms and types of media. For whatever faults they have, Western supporters of Ukraine identify themselves as such, sometimes too enthusiastically 🙂 But the pro-Russian Western crowd almost NEVER just flat out says it. It's always "I'm just an honest bystander, calling it as I see it. I have no interest in this." And then continues to be an RT-spouting sock puppet.

This is incredible. Cut and pasted directly from Kremlin talking points.

So, you care who wins but you don't care who runs Ukraine; it's hard to imagine how one can differentiate the two. Oh well, have a good day.

Gweiloman, you know you COULD try addressing the substance of the comment. Your cries of insults are pretty hilarious, given that you frequently do the same, and by "bullying" we all understand you to mean "countering your CCP/Kremlin agitprop."

Again, the more someone says "I don't care who wins" and "I just want peace" the more certain it is they support Russia. Russia has "zero interest in taking it over entirely"? That's an evidence-contrary assertion, given that the initial failed invasion tried to do exactly that, and they have been taking pieces for years now through the invasions of Crimea and the Kremlin-sponsored, cooked-up war in the east. If they end up with only the territory they've already stolen, or nothing, it's not because they had "zero interest" in taking over the whole thing. It's because they failed, and will be trying again in the next few years after rebuilding their army and laying a groundwork using tired-and-true FSB-led methods.

Sure, Gweiloman. Go live in China and post critical comments about Xi, the party, local party officials, etc. In fact go ahead and picket in front of Party HQ, with some sort of criticism. Or, go to Russia, Iran, North Korea, or any other of the Axis countries, and try it -- any of the countries you cheer for. Let's see how that goes. The benefit to that would be, one less pro-Putin/pro-CCP stooge here.

"I don't care who wins or loses, and yet I constantly post supporting one side." Denying having any interest in the outcome while posting daily supporting the dictatorships attacking Ukraine is one of those wonderful little pro-Axis chestnuts, like "I just want to see peace in the world... so Ukraine should surrender."

@Gweiloman hates the West while enjoying all the benefits the West has given him... like all of those simping for dictatorships. If Gweiloman got the world he purports to want, or would actually have to live in China, Russia, Iran, etc, he would be singing a different tune. First of all, he couldn't be on fora like this, as places to express one's opinion freely don't exist.

Yet, the side your root for -- Russia, China, Iran, etc -- all have similar records, with similar "hubris, arrogance, and imperialism." You can ask all the same questions about the countries you support. A little self-awareness would make your posts much more credible, Gweiloman.

I agree with some of what you say. But just as "neutrality" during WW2 is a moral albatross to the Swiss today, it seems they viewed neutrality towards Russia's invasion the same. There is likely a lot behind the scenes that no one but the Swiss and Russians know that pushed Switzerland this direction.

Unfortunately the registration wall went up before I could get a good look at the article. It might be the Brits -- I'm certain they win by population. But I doubt Russia was considered under the Nat Geo rubric, which I'm guessing was looking exclusively at European powers, versus straight out land grabs (colonialism or no? I guess it depends) over 11 time zones and the deliberate Soviet policy of settling Russians all throughout the SSRs to, yes, colonize them.

100% same as the Sudetenland. And yes, Russia is probably the biggest colonial power in history, by landmass anyway.

The "peace NOW!" crowd is 100% pro-Russian.

You seem new to the topic. Russia has made no secret of bringing thousands of children into Russia on the pretext that they are orphans. This is not only a specific war crime but inconvenient when you have the parents of these "orphans" searching for them. I have no need to "demonize" Russians. I lived there for years and know them fairly well, the good and the bad. This war has given free rein to their worst tendencies and it's astonishing how many men in the West defend them.

You mean theft of Ukrainian land? Thousands of Ukrainian children? Countless washing machines and all the things Ukrainians had that Russians didn't? That theft?

I wasn't! The inevitable time in gulag wasn't worth it, and nor would I have protested the invasion of Poland if living in Germany at the time. Your concern is touching, thank you. No, I don't know which one. But neither do I care as it's an obvious red herring and certainly not comparable to what we're actually talking about, which is civil liberties in Russia. We all take your hilarious two-step around the issue -- "look, a squirrel!" -- as tacit admission that you know that there are no civil liberties in Russia. Why you think a refusal to admit this makes your arguments better... is a mystery of the universe. Debating 101.

Another Jew sniffer!

And of course no one in Russia itself disputes that freedom of speech, press, assembly, etc aren't severely curtailed. What Mr. "I went to St. Pete to party on unspecified dates and it was swell" doesn't know is that I lived in Moscow 2019 until four months after Russia invaded. I saw the paddy wagons lined up in public places, waiting to haul away anyone who protested the war on any grounds at all. I saw, even in Russian news, the announcements of prosecutions for anyone who questioned the official narrative. And of course they closed down -- raiding and aggressively prosecuting -- any dissenting media organizations, with the coup de grace being the murder of Navalny. Mr. Gweiloman drops a lot of turds in this forum but pretending Russia is a place that offers civil liberties... is straight out of The Manchurian Candidate, Walter Duranty, or Animal Farm.

🤣 You'd have a little credibility if you just said, "Correct, there are no civil liberties in Russia, but I support them all the same for XYZ reasons." Your answer was a hilariously bad attempt to pretend there are civil liberties in Russia.

What about this bothers you? It's not martial law in itself, and as someone who supports Russia degraded civil liberties are, you know, your thing.

Casualty figures are supplied by Hamas, both in terms of numbers and who specifically is killed. It's incredible that the credulous media accept these figures and report them to the world, sometimes with no accreditation at all. We wouldn't accept information from ISIS or Al-Qaeda without questioning it -- it's incredible how often (most of the time) this happens with what Hamas says.