ChicagoExpat

Moving at a couple of miles per month, that seems to be a remote danger indeed. The real problem is after inauguration, when the Don will give Russia the gift they want most at the moment -- allowing them to do what they want in Ukraine.

You advocate for peace in its most hypocritical form -- the peace of the grave. Telling me to "grow up"? That's pretty ad hominem, Bob. I ought to report you for that. If you can't take the blowback, don't shill for fascists and murderers. Your feelings will be less hurt then.

So, Bob, I hurt your feelings by calling you out and you had my comment removed. For someone advocating for the worst regimes on the planet, you sure are thin-skinned and don't like to have the obvious shortcomings of your position exposed. I'll repeat it for your edification. Until you have the courage of your convictions, and actually forego all that USA has provided for you in your lifetime -- a world order that for all its shortcomings has provided more prosperity and freedom in the past 70 years than combined previous millennia -- and go live in Russia, China, or Iran, you've just a hypocrite. Ironic that you were literally fake advocating for free speech in your quoted comment but you're the fastest to cry about a comment that hurts your feelings. It's really important when you're advocating for the destruction of a nation, and the deaths of hundreds of thousands, to do so without being offended. Bob, in a microcosm, illustrates the core issue here -- there are some here that advocate for repression, death, and destruction, doing so safely from a lifetime of living in the countries that oppose these things. For all of their many shortcomings, Western countries are the only places any of us choose to live in.

There is a very good chance Russia could come out of this with much of what it wanted in the first place. I've never been one of those people who has said Ukraine will certainly win. Evil does sometimes win, though in the end, as it's simply the occupation of land by a foreign army, when Russia goes through another existential crisis (as such a rotten government and society surely will do), Ukraine will take its freedom back. Happened in the breakup of the Soviet Union, it'll happen again. That said, though, I fervently hope Russia is bled dry and loses, and Putin meets the same end as Mussolini, or Hitler, or Qaddafi, or Hussein. If ever a man deserved it, it's him.

The analogy doesn't work and you know it. Russia invaded Ukraine, not the other way around.

"Free speech is important to me, and I support a country that literally allows no free speech whatsoever."

You "never realized" that people might fear and hate a country that does what Russia does? "Neocons" >>DRINK<<

"I love you so much I'll kill you if you leave me for another man." -- Russia to Ukraine

Here's a case that's beyond belief, but happened while I was living in Russia -- several minors were playing Minecraft and built, and then destroyed, a replica of FSB headquarters. THEY WERE SENTENCED TO HARD TIME IN PRISON FOR THIS TERRORISM.

"Democracy is important to me, but I support an alliance of the most undemocratic nations on earth and the destructions of nations that try to move toward democracy."

And the invasion of Poland, taking of the Sudentenland, Operation Barbarossa, etc were entirely expected results of having a murderous dictator as a neighbor. So is the invasion of Ukraine. When unhinged autocrats are grabbing the land of their neighbors, and they have both already done so to you and promise to come and finish the job, you look for help. That's what free nations do. If Putin and friends (i.e. you) don't want their neighbors joing NATO -- THEN DON'T GIVE THEM A REASON TO. Kremlin logic is no logic at all. You're not a dumb guy, @thaibeachlovers. How you swallow this BS is just... astonishing. Right. It's THE NECONS that forced poor Vladimir to cause the deaths of hundreds of thousands (thus far). He just couldn't help himself. He was left with no other options.

I was quoting you -- YOU were "not aware that you were called out"/ 🤔

That is nonsense, and you know it.

It's incredible that, given the subject of the thread (Russia's invasion of Ukraine) and the subject of your comment (transparently bogus reasons for going to war) you didn't do the most obvious thing and combine the two to produce... "we have to invade Ukraine because it's a Nazi state."

Not aware you were "called out," and yet you got into this particular conversation exactly as I described, and felt the need to defend yourself. Curious. Still waiting for the condemnation of Russia's invasion, from you or any of the "pro-peace" crowd.

I wasn't talking to you, but since you've inserted yourself yes, you're right, it does apply to you. Grateful for you? Nope. In the same way I'm not grateful for the FSB, woke activists, pro-Soviet shills in the Cold War, or tapeworms. All malevolent hangers-on to a healthy society. Again, feel free to repudiate the war, and Russia's warmongering and nationalism that started the war, prove me wrong. But none of you ever will, yet still resent being called out. Weird.

Glad to see you refuse to condemn any of those invasions by Russia. Here, I'll remind you of what you support: Go ahead and condemn Russia's military adventures in Afghanistan, Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, Vietnam, Hungary, Finland, Korea, Africa... the list goes on and on. But we know you won't.

What do you think the invasion is doing? What do you think war does? I thought you were against war? Just SOME wars, right?

Yep. I lived there for 3 years and was living and working there when Russia invaded Ukraine. No relatives, but friends and co-workers. And some are in gulag for... nothing at all. You're such a smug little @sshole, Bob.

Nope, I've never been to Ukraine and have never pretended to have been. But I stick to what I say above -- ESPECIALLY the part where some police corruption is cause to cheer on the destruction of an entire country. Man, I've been to a LOT of places and seen a lot of crap... and I don't wish the entire destruction of any of those places. Even Russia.

Again, Bob, this isn't news to anyone. Russia suffered a lot -- partially due to its own policies and indifference to its people. And the Nazis, when not making treaties with Russia, treated Slavs as subhuman. But feel free to comment on the rest. Here, I'll remind you: And then immediately threatened by a remarkably similar threat -- Russia. In the case of Poland, the Baltics and Czechoslovakia, occupied by again by a hostile force. And, Germany and Russia carved up Poland between them. Never forget that.

You don't oppose it at all. You cheer it on at every opportunity. You oppose U.S. military intervention (fine) but love Russia military intervention, or which there are many examples. Go ahead and condemn Russia's military adventures in Afghanistan, Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, Vietnam, Korea, Africa... the list goes on and on. But we know you won't.

That is a hilariously, transparently false story, and the worst excuse I've ever heard to cheer on the destruction of an entire country. And you must really hate Thailand.

If you actually hate war, you'd oppose the invasion. However, you support this war and cheer on the aggressor. All of this is so puzzling, my puzzler is sore.

Partially because of Russia, yes. And then immediately threatened by a remarkably similar threat -- Russia. In the case of Poland, the Baltics and Czechoslovakia, occupied by again by a hostile force. And, Germany and Russia carved up Poland between them. Never forget that.