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I hear 'Red Shirts" loud and clear near the Police 5 HQ at Mahidol Rd now.

I paid the correct amount (the prices from the menu) already but did not have the exact change so it was 20 Baht too much. Other shops to change the money were already closed and she refused to return the change of 20 Baht. I did not wanted to leave not paying.

She was really a bad lady and I am sure 2 of the staff (the one who wanted to hit me) were illegal as they did not spoke Thai very well.

Today Sunday, we had dinner at this restaurant along the river in the city of Nakhon Sawan.

My Thai wife and I ordered 3 different dishes out of the menu; one of 60 Baht, another at 70 Baht and the third at 80 Baht. Also 3 cokes at the menu price of 10 Baht each.

The food and service was not very good but still at the limit of acceptable. When the bill came the dishes were resp. 70, 80 and 90 Baht. The coke was at 15 Baht.

The staff told us they could do nothing as the bill was made by the owner. Talking to the owner (a lady around 35-40 years) she told us the prices were the menu-prices. I asked her to show me that price but she refused and said we had to pay the total amount. I refused and took a menu by myself to show her the prices but she did not want to look at it, nor accept it, and she took the menu away. She got very angry and started shouting at my wife that she was a bad lady (my wife is a computer teacher). She got furious at me. I wanted my change (I paid her already) but she refused again and did not wanted to give me the bill anymore. I took the bill out of her hands but she tried to take it back. A young man (staff) tried to hit me twice but I got very angry on him and he backed off. I told her I would go to the police with the menu and the bill and took again a menu but she fought to get it back. My wife tried to call the police but…. No answer. Without success I tried to find an email later to contact the police.

Now what should I do? I was robbed and yes, it was for 45 Baht only but I cannot tolerate 4 mistakes in one bill. The staff and owner had a really bad and unacceptable behavior towards us and tried to hit me.

I want to do something about it. Some advice please.

@Humphrey Bear

Again, it was an ING gold Eurocard (Mastercard) and that is a Credit Card. I know the difference.

It is not true that the CC provider is liable for CCs. I am the proof of it.

Tell me what I have to do, and I will do it. I want my money back.

@ AsiaCheese & Zorro1

You both were very lucky or indeed a good manager at the bank. I have an ING Gold Eurocard (Mastercard).

I was in Thailand for 3 months and the bank, as well the CCco told me I had 1 month only to complain. They take the money from my bank account automatically. It is indeed at the back of the statements in very very small letters.

I did everything I could do by letters, calls and visits at the bank. A lawyer would cost me may be even more.

I am thinking of bringing the story to the press, may be that will help. It is a lot of money.

A few years back, I got scammed the same way. They used a copy of my CC in London while I was in Thailand. The bank never paid me back. I lost the equivalent of 200.000 Baht. I wrote registered letters, went to the police as I could prove easily with my passport that I was in Thailand and Laos. Nothing helped.

To jail all of them and as long as possible.

Officials closed the road years back coz teenagers had sex while driving the car down the doi. A few deadly accidents happened at that time.

His

-first move was to sell computers to police-departments while he was a policeman in San Kamphaeng (Chiang Mai). He made a lot of money with it and was so clever to share with decision making people.

Having some money from that he went higher:

-his second move was to get the permission and help from the government and other influent Thai to setup a private phone company with all the agreements of being the SOLE mobile-company in Thailand. AIS controlled everything and the government made huge investments to benifit them. No need to say he was clever again to benifit some helping hands.

Having more money from that, he wanted more and more....... he went into politics. The rest of the story we all know if we (want to) think a bit.

Read some international press articles, google around, there is a lot on the net. Read what his advisers say about him f.e.; he cannot stop, not in investment, not in politics, he wants to be the winner in all he does and whatever it takes................. He think he will never lose and can control everything. Article published last year in an Arab newspaper.......

etc etc etc.................

It makes no sense posting stories that affects people very hard and, on the other side, learn that most of the readers are just joking with it. This is indeed very sad also.

Who has to be ashamed the most: the Thai brainless driver or the Farang brainless readers?

Please admin, close this threat, some replies make me even more sick of Chiang Mai (farang) people.

@ onnut

My wife is Thai. However, she would like to move out of Thailand. She says the country is deteriorating and extreme bad things are on the rise. She likes to compare with the "good old days".... If I remember well, that was only a few years ago...... I only hope that, in a few years, Chiang Mai will still be a livable city.

Hi all,

Today 06-02-10 afternoon, around 17.00h I drove my motorbike west on See Ping Muang Rd 4 towards See Ping Muang Rd near the Wat Si Ping Muang temple (lat 18.770887 lon 98.983356). My wife sat on the back.

A very old, small, grey/blue car (I think Nissan NV) wanted to pass us but the road is too narrow there. He was driving very nervous at few inches behind me. When I stopped at the crossing behind another car waiting, he hit my rear wheel. I looked back and waived gentle my flat hand up and down towards the soil to ask him to drive more slowly.

Behind the car in front of me, I turned to the right towards the Wat. The grey car then came next to me, quite furious, suddenly smashed to the left and pushed my motorbike against the wall of the Wat. As I could do nothing else (we were blocked completely between the wall and his car), I hit his car with my right hand.

He stopped his car and came to me with a big samurai, at least 20 inches long. Lucky for us there were some people around watching what happened and when he noticed them, he went back to his car and drove off like a crazy bum.

I asked the people around to leave their phone-number with us, as I told them I would go to the police. Guess what; of the 6/7 people, nobody had a phone nor a name nor an address…………………..

I went to the police and they told me they could do nothing, as nothing really happened. Police name was Boontum Sripaj. They were absolutely not interested in my story. About the samurai; they told us that all Thai have some kind of weapon in the car and they will use it without thinking. It is normal he said. End of story for the police.

May be other people had also an encounter with this man or other “Killer Drivers”. If so, please post your experience.

He was about 35 years old with normal posture and normal hair cut. However, he had a very bad and dangerous look on his face and wore sunglasses, pilot style.

His small to medium car was about 10 years old, grey/blue and we think it was a Nissan NV. His license was

ผก 4867 Chiang Mai.

Thanks.

12am Tues/Weds, they just played the Salute to His Majesty, and stopped the speeches. That's a long night of microphones for a Tues night, though I'll give them that since 10pm or so the volume was 'reasonable' to me at about a mile away.

They have turned the stage towards the south now, away from the police-station. It is a lot better as I live north of it at about 2-3 miles. Before, I could hear them shouting, loud and clear, even in my bathroom with the door closed.

It's called freedom of assembly and freedom of expression. Some signs at least that Thai democracy still shows a pulse.

It's.. "interesting" to see that allegedly educated foreigners are actually advocating a police crackdown on those basic freedoms.

Agree 100 % with you.

I am sorry that I am from an under-developed country. However, in my country;

-"freedom of assembly and freedom of expression' has NOTHING to do with disturbing/manipulating/challenging other people all the time.

-and democracy has NOTHING to do with defending/adoring a convicted criminal on the run. In a true democracy a verdict of the court is a final verdict and cannot be discussed. End of story. If one cannot accept, there is no democracy. Simple as that.

I am tired of listen to those Red Shirts yelling, shouting and singing in their million watt speakers. I can even not watch TV in a normal way anymore……..

When will this stop and when will police do something about the noise and the blockades of the roads? First behind Wat Phrasing for months and now on Superhighway at the Police building.

If the BIB should start wearing a helmet, may be the rest would follow the gesture.

Every single day, I see police driving small or big bikes not wearing helmets by themselves.

I collected many pics from them already, once even Thaksin on a 1000+ cc Honda.

If the BIB should start wearing a helmet, may be the rest would follow the gesture.

Every single day, I see police driving small or big bikes not wearing helmets by themselves.

I collected many pics from them already, once even Thaksin on a 1000+ cc Honda.

They build wastewater treatment plants for it about 10 years ago. Unfortunately, the only goal for building those plants (I think it were 20 plants) was corruption. They never functioned.

Later, when Thaksin came in to power, he promised, with very loud and long speeches, that the water in Chiang Mai would be compeltely clean within 2 years. I think that was around 2003 something...................

This is Thailand my friends.

I have recently learned from this website and from major newspapers that the average tea-money is at least 30% of the total amount................

This is not too bad of a deal for some people I guess.

@ Getgoin.

Also from Nationmaster;

Murders per capita: # 14 Thailand #24 USA

Murders with firearms: # 3 Thailand # 4 USA (Thailand double from USA).

Gun violence, homecides w firearms: # 1 Thailand # 7 USA

http://www.nationmaster.com

Pls, when you say "a" say "b" also.

hahahahahahaha, they even cannot control / make a success of of the 5 white buses driving around CM. It took them 5 years to plan and get them on the road. Now, after 2 years in service, they driving around empty.

3.000 minivans + 5.000 red taxis = 8.000 of the worst drivers in the world and they will be all driving around in the city of CM........ Time to move to another place I think.

Do I smell something? 3.000 minivans is a lot of money.............

My wife (she is Thai) has a degree and was a computer teacher, however, don't ask her anything about soft-/hardware coz she will not know. In fact, she knows nothing at all about computers. Two friends of her have a degree also and are English teachers. However, none of the two can speak, read, write English. In fact they know nothing about the English language. Many times they feel ashame when we talk about those things, other times they just comment with; this is Thailand, land of smiles, mai penrai...

My GF worked at CM Ram for years as an accountant. No question about it, they have dual pricing. When see saw a farang name, address in foreign country or something pointing to farang, she was ordered to use a different price. Depending on the treatment, but on average, it was Thai price + 40%.

Hi,

My wife and I went to Pun Pun, along the river, yesterday. I am from France and my wife is Thai, so we cannot comment on the “Fish & Chips” as we cook completely different. It was the first time we ate this “famous” English meal. However, what I can say and guarantee is that all people at Pun Pun are very kind, nice, caring and helpful.

I have 2 (next door) studios of 46 sqm each at the 15th floor at Riverside Condo. View at Doi Suthep, Ping River and the pool of the Holiday Inn. Can make easily a nice condo of 92 sqm of it by removing the wall between the two condos. Price of 200.000 was quoted to make a real beautiful apartment of it. Different floorplans available or design your own. Easy and quick access to the city and superhighway. Condo is next to the Holiday Inn and Rajavej hospital. Everything at your footstep; restaurants, gas, 7/11, Star, Mini Tesco, Nonghoi market etc. Condo has pool, 4 elevators, nice reception / lobby with 24h permanence, Wi-Fi, 24h security, parking for car and bike etc. Price for both together is 2.7 million. [email protected]

One of his first jobs should be (if he has any authority) is to paint out these narrow lanes and arrows that go against the regular flow of traffic.

Loi Khoh is one and the steel bridge is another where if people take advantage of "driving what is essentially the wrong way" the realm's daily road toll will only increase.

A monkey would have more brains than to have dreamed up that idea.

Sawasdee Khrup, Khun John B. Good,

Ulysses G. was right, a few weeks ago, when he pointed out there was a bicycle lane across the steel bridge and up Loi Kroh ... running east to west (i.e., against the flow of traffic) : to my amazement I even observed (a few days ago) white-on-blue bicycle icon signs at the east-of-the-Ping side entrance of the steel bridge, and once gain about halfway up Loy Kroh.

I completely agree with you that these "invitation to suicide" lanes should be painted out : as a statement of "pure idealism mooning reality" I kind of admire them, though. My guess is the signs, and lanes, are paid for by Chiang Mai Ram.

As for "monkey brains" : speaking as an Orangutan soul/mind currently incarceratred in an aging farang container, I can tell you that monkey brains are, indeed, pathetic : compared to Orangs.

Monkeys are silly sex-aholics who only "think" about three things : food, getting high off fermented fruit, or psychotropic nuts, and berries, and sex (in that order of priority) : in that light, you might compare them with many farangs. As for those disgusting Bonobos in Madagascar whose females all come into oestrus once a year on the same full moon resulting in an orgy which would put Koh Pagnan to shame : we won't mention those.

best, ~o:37;

I live in CM for 8 years now. This is the third time they painting the bicycle roads every where around and against he traffic direction. Don't worry, they will remove all soon again. TIT you have to remember. They have to keep busy with the most silly things to gave the friends the money the promised. If you have to rank on the internet or animal planet the most stupid and silly expenses of all time, the nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmbbbbbbbbbbbbbbber onnnnneeeeeeeeee would be for sure Thailand (Chiang Mai). The number two would even not come to the ankles.