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    What does the average British expat think of Tommy?

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    18 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

    And a nonce apologist.

    But please we should call him by his name, Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. He changed it because it sounded posh and non "geezer of the people" which is the image he wanted to cultivate. Can you imagine a Stephen Yaxley-Lennon inspiring the far right? Sounds a bit posh and forrin', innit.

    I get your point.If he needed to sound hard he would have been much better with a name like Joe Bloggs perhaps?

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    What does the average British expat think of Tommy?

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    1 hour ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

    Not sure if this is a quote from TR or you parodying him but the response is the same either way.

     

    Wants it back from whom? You are both already living in it. The comment about "lesser nations" is hopefully in jest otherwise it can make one look a bit daft, like TR perhaps.

    Of course it was in jest but a few (probably yanks) on here didn't appreciate it.

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    What does the average British expat think of Tommy?

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    2 minutes ago, Flyguy330 said:

    As with Trump, he's a manifestation of the anger growing in White Western society. Blaming him - a symptom - instead of tackling the real illness, is missing the point. There are certainly big questions to be asked about him, his true name etc. But I tend to think a lot of those charges he's been hit with are trumped up by the authorities (including the UK Police) who have a Woke agenda.

     

    Regarding his 'bona fides' - he's been attacked and threatened by Islamists in his home. They 'know where he lives', and it's an ordinary working class area. Would you have the guts to stand up and speak out when your home might come under attack as a result? The Islamists hate him and have it in for him. I'm surprised he hasn't been murdered already by them.

     

    By the way, regarding the accusations of anti black/brown racism - he has had loads of support from the Sikh community in the UK. The Sikhs have fought Islam for centuries and British Sikhs are still on the frontline against Islamic domination, same as Mr.Robinson.

    Well said.

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    What does the average British expat think of Tommy?

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    1 hour ago, DaLa said:

    I'm all for the right of free speech.  I do not support some of the recent events in the UK where protesters have blocked the roads and supported violent vocal attacks. Thankfully I can live here in los without the angst that is building in the UK. Some of the problems of the UK are being voiced by Tommy Robinson and his supporters and to label him as simply a troublemaker is ignoring those issues.

    Extremely sensible reply,thanks.

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    What does the average British expat think of Tommy?

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    17 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

    Just another example of a frustrated angry Brit whose father abandoned him and then watched his mother bring other men into the house.

     

    He isn’t too bright.

     

    And I know he would hate my Thai girlfriend who isn’t white enough.
     

    So I will be happy to see him locked up again. 

    Sorry to hear about your Dad abandoning you and your Mums loose activities.

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    What does the average British expat think of Tommy?

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    1 minute ago, ChumpChange said:

    The only difference between this git and the likes of other similar figures like Russel Brand, Andrew Tate, Steve Bannon, Roger Stone, Rudy Giuliani, and other pieces of nasty work of their ilk is that this guy seems to have been held somewhat accountable thus far. 

    See,you're warming to the subject.

    Any more of you conversing with the Brits here and you might grow a sense of humour.

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    What does the average British expat think of Tommy?

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    7 minutes ago, Baht Simpson said:

    Just a violent ultra right-wing, highly convicted felon. "Wants his country back" means nothing.

    A few highlights.

     

    "Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon (born Stephen Christopher Yaxley, 27 November 1982), better known as Tommy Robinson, is a British anti-Islam campaigner, convicted criminal, and one of the UK’s most prominent far-right activists. He was a political advisor to former UK Independence Party (UKIP) leader Gerard Batten.

     

    Robinson has been active in far-right politics for many years. He was a member of the British National Party (BNP), a neo-fascist and white nationalist political party, from 2004 to 2005. For a short time in 2012, he was joint vice-chairman of the far-right British Freedom Party (BFP). He co-founded the far-right English Defence League (EDL) in 2009 and led it until 8 October 2013. In 2015, he became involved with the development of Pegida UK, a now-defunct British chapter of the German far-right Pegida. From 2017 to 2018, he wrote and appeared in videos on the Canadian far-right website Rebel News.

     

    Robinson has been convicted for multiple crimes involving violence, stalking, financial and immigration fraud, drug possession, public order offences, and contempt of court. He has served at least four separate prison terms: for assault in 2005, for using false travel documents to enter the United States in 2012, for mortgage fraud in 2014, and 13 months in 2018 for contempt of court after publishing a Facebook Live video of defendants entering a law court (contravening a court order that disallows reporting on such trials while proceedings are ongoing). In August 2018, due to procedural errors, he was released on bail pending a new hearing. In July 2019, he was again found guilty of contempt of court at the retrial and was committed at the Old Bailey to nine months in prison․ Before his sentencing, he appeared on the American far-right website InfoWars to appeal for political asylum in the U.S. He was released from prison on 13 September 2019 after nine weeks.

     

    In July 2021, Robinson was found to have libelled a 15-year-old refugee at a school in Huddersfield and was ordered to pay £100,000 plus legal costs, although he had filed for bankruptcy in March 2021. In October 2021, he was made subject to a five-year stalking order for harassing journalist Lizzie Dearden and her partner.

     

    "....but lost his job when he was convicted of assaulting an off-duty police officer in a drunken argument. He served a 12-month prison sentence."

     

    "Robinson has appeared masked at protests. Although Robinson repeatedly insisted from the early days of the organisation that the EDL was "against the rise of radical Islam" and that its members "aren't against Islam", its rank and file were noted for including football hooligans and members who described themselves as anti-Muslim."

     

    "Robinson was convicted in 2011 of using "threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour" during a fight between supporters of Luton Town and Newport County in Luton the previous year. Robinson reportedly led the group of Luton fans, and played an integral part in starting a 100-man brawl, during which he chanted "EDL till I die". He was sentenced to a 12-month community rehabilitation order with 150 hours' unpaid work and a three-year ban from attending football matches."

     

    "On 29 September 2011, Robinson was convicted of common assault after headbutting a fellow EDL member at a rally in Blackburn in April that year.[1][18] He was sentenced to 12 weeks' imprisonment, suspended for 12 months."

     

     

     

     

    Bet you've got blue hair.

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    What does the average British expat think of Tommy?

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    This is mostly for the Brits on here but lesser nations can join in too.

    We have had a rather stormy couple of months here in Thailand but this question is about what is happening at home.

    What does the average Brit here think of Tommy Robinson?There doesn't seem to be any middle ground with him.You either love him or hate him.

    I'm writing this because on 1stJune he organised a massive peaceful protest in London which was a huge success without any trouble at all but the MSM either refused to acknowledge it or reported it as right wing football supporters.

    I like the guy.Yes he is rough round the edges but was first in the firing line with the grooming gang scandal when all others turned a blind eye.

    Oh,Tommy Tommy.

    Tommy Tommy Tommy Robinson.

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    British Pensioner Struggles with Frozen Pension in Thailand

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    38 minutes ago, ericbj said:

    A perspective on the issue and some comments pertaining thereto:

     

    1.  The woman's decision to emigrate to Thailand twenty years ago seems based upon re-joining family members.  A quite natural motive.  Her son was then aged 45.  He seems to be contributing at least as much to her upkeep as the UK Pensions Service.  Which, with his increasing age, a family to support, and economic downturns, is likely becoming increasingly burdensome.

     

    2.  What evidence exists, as alleged in a comment, of the son operating an illegal business?  I.e. that it is not at least 51% Thai-owned.  If unfounded, this statement could constitute a libel; and perjury if claimed in a criminal hearing.

     

    3.  The suggestion she may not have paid NI contributions is unsubstantiated; and besides the point if she is entitled on the basis of payments made by another.

     

    4.  It is true that many Thai workers and their families can subsist on less than this woman.  But they are part of a network of relationships.  Which includes expanding Thai Government social services, including healthcare.  For example, go to a Thai public hospital for an eye operation.  An expatriate will not have it for the price a Thai person pays.

     

    5.  Global economic circumstances have changed radically and unpredictably over the past 2 to 3 decades.  And are changing ever more rapidly now.
    Who can foresee today what the world will be like in 2044?

     

    6.  The Thai economy and Thai regulations, both in substance and application, have dramatically altered over recent decades.

     

    7.  Not every retiree fits neatly into one of two categories:


    Those who plan the move in every last financial detail, down to their final demise; and

     

    Those who throw caution to the wind and come out on a whim, full of blue-eyed optimism.

     

    My personal experience - not typical - but there are doubtlessly many untypical cases:

     

    Came six months, unpaid, in each of a dozen years helping refugees (mostly genuine) improve their English with a view to resettlement in "western" countries.  Discontinued this, but continued coming as result of relationships developed here.  Because of changes to tourist visa (more limited duration), switched to O-A retirement visa.  Changes to O-A visa (health insurance with one of 8 listed companies) forced change to O visa for retirement).  Returned here late 2019.  Due back in Europe mid-May.  But the plandemic strikes.  Return flight cancelled.  Book seat on another flight.  Flight cancelled.  Book again.  Third time lucky?  No!  Flight cancelled.  From the next day, 1st July 2020, all international passenger-flights banned, and borders closed.  When finally the sanctions are lifted (thanks to the damage caused to the world's second largest tourist economy) the deterioration of my health renders the return journey unthinkable, not least because of the physical and administrative challenges to be confronted on arrival.

     

    My impression of immigration policy as currently being drafted by the Thai Cabinet is that it favours short-term tourism where visitors come for several weeks, and spend much of their annual savings in the process.  They seem to be less interested in retirees, unless these happen to be extremely well-heeled.

     

    The politicians may be missing the point that short-term tourism is volatile.  When times are good, it booms.  When a depression sets in, hardly anyone comes.  You only have to look back to 2008 and its aftermath to see this.

     

    Retirees, on the other hand, make a less obvious but substantial commitment to the overall economy rather than to the tourist economy.  They are here, as a rule, for the long term.  It is not easy to up stumps and depart at short notice.  Except upon death.  And then some at least of their assets may remain in Thailand.

     

    There is a case for both types of visitor.

    Can you repeat that please?

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