Nick Carter icp

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I don't know what rock you've been sleeping under. Type this into google and see what you come up with:

 

hamas attack worst days for jews since the holocaust

   LOL, well of course if you're going to do a google search for something , it will show up a lot of times in the results .

   Besides, the headline is true , it was the worst day for deaths of Jews since the Holocaust 

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Because the Holocaust had to be mentioned? Does Hamas have the means to pose an existential threat to Israel? They exploited a weakness in Israel defense for one day. The Holocaust mostly eliminated the Jewish populations of Germany and Eastern Europe. Invoking it is just a cynical way to arouse emotion and paralyze thinking.

   There were countless other newspaper headlines where the Holocaust wasn't mentioned , why focus on the one headline that mentioned it ?

   Hamas attempted to do what the Nazis tried to do , that was to eliminate all the Jews on the land , its understandable that the Nazi attempt and the Hamas attempt   at Elimination of Jews were mentioned together in a newspaper headline 

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

 

I guess I've seen I've seen the Holocaust shamelessly exploited too many times in order to justify Israel's tactics in its invasion of Gaza such as the meme "Deadliest Day for Jews Since the Holocaust" and similar formulations. Or criticism of Israel's conduct in Gaza being equated with anti-Semitism.

source

 

   What would the title have been if you were the Journalist ?

*Best day for elimination of the Jews since the Holocaust" ?

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

 

I Or criticism of Israel's conduct in Gaza being equated with anti-Semitism.

 

 

   Palestinian supporters do keep bringing the subject  anti Semitism up , often soon after  then stating that Jews keep going on about Anti Semitism , when its they themselves that never stop going on about it .

   Criticism of Israel isn't equated with Anti Semitism 

22 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

 

 

All from the Israel Times, a totally viable source, of course it is if you only want the Israeli view.

If the International media in Israel reports anything it has to be vetted first, or they can't report it, never mind about the situation in Gaza

 

Politicians have significant influence over appointments to the broadcasting regulatory bodies. Channel 14 is known to provide very favourable coverage of the prime minister, with few critical voices. Since the start of the war with Hamas, a majority of the media has increasingly relayed the government’s propaganda in favour of the war, and critical voices find it difficult to be heard. Coverage of the war in Gaza has been seriously hindered, as only journalists embedded with the IDF are allowed to enter the enclave.

 

https://rsf.org/en/country/israel

   You really should put quotes in quotation marks as its unclear what you wrote and what you copy and pasted .

   The second paragraph is copy and pasted , did you write the first paragraph or did you C&P it ? 

If I want to reply to the C&P ed stuff , I will search for the author and reply to him personally 

9 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Fantastic, you found something that has absolutely nothing to do with my point/post.

 

"Anything that comes from Israel media, is propaganda as it isn't verifiable by international media.""

 

 

   My point was that the International media peddle lies , so they are in no position to verify anything Israel media reports .

   I have pointed out a lie by the international media , what Israeli media news reports are you referring to ?

   Or do you mean that everything a Jew says is a lie and everything a non Jew says is the truth ?

2 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Answer this then:  Israeli propaganda from Israeli news sites that won't allow international media free access to any evidence to corroborated any of the lies they want to put out.

   Here is a lie by USA media . 

The only ceasefire agreed to by Hamas was the ceasefire proposed by Hamas  , which was so one sided that there was no way Israel would even consider it .

You could contact the hospitals and ask them the prices ? 

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

Et tu, Biden?

Biden withheld bomb shipment to Israel out of fear it could be used in Rafah: 

Israel's Rafah plans prompted review of weapons transfers, official says.

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMid2h0dHBzOi8vYWJjbmV3cy5nby5jb20vUG9saXRpY3MvYmlkZW4tYWRtaW5pc3RyYXRpb24tcGF1c2VzLWFtbXVuaXRpb24tc2hpcG1lbnRzLWlzcmFlbC11cy1vZmZpY2lhbHMvc3Rvcnk_aWQ9MTA5OTkzMjcw0gF7aHR0cHM6Ly9hYmNuZXdzLmdvLmNvbS9hbXAvUG9saXRpY3MvYmlkZW4tYWRtaW5pc3RyYXRpb24tcGF1c2VzLWFtbXVuaXRpb24tc2hpcG1lbnRzLWlzcmFlbC11cy1vZmZpY2lhbHMvc3Rvcnk_aWQ9MTA5OTkzMjcw?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

 

I guess Biden is now on the side of the terrorists, too

 

   Some of those are precision  bombs that the USA is stalling on sending , Israel will just used dumb bombs which will result in more civilian casualties 

1 minute ago, Angus55 said:

So you support what the Israeli military is doing and has done in Gaza?

   Yes, 100 % 

Free Gaza from the grips of Hamas .

The terror group needs to be eliminated 

56 minutes ago, Angus55 said:

Its about time the students and American publc voiced their opposition to the murderous campaign being carried out by the right wing Israeli government. Murderers ! and being supported by the USA  ! Disgraceful !

   They are a supporting a group that are holding hostages and quite likely have killed a baby being held hostage .

  Students should be campaigning for the hostages to be freed , rather than supporting the hostage takers 

36 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

Answer this then:  Israeli propaganda from Israeli news sites that won't allow international media free access to any evidence to corroborated any of the lies they want to put out.

   What lies have the Israeli media told ?

3 hours ago, Neeranam said:

 

Blinken says the ceasefire deal is extraordinarily generous & says it’s up to Hamas to accept -

Offered by Israel which Hamas rejected 

3 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Hamas accepts -Israel rejects. Orders Palestinians to leave eastern Rafah & then proceeds to bomb western Rafah -

A different deal NOT offered by Israel , a deal offered by Egypt which meant a complete surrender by Israel 

3 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Bombing Rafah was the US “redline” -

US blames Hamas

 

 

 

 

 

   You are being extremely dishonest there .

Hamas didn't accept the Israeli terms for a ceasefire

Those terms were rejected by Hamas .

You've cut and pasted two different stories .

3 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

It's a lot more than a few USA protests, there are European protests too, UN spokespeople talking of genocide, the ICJ hearings, the reports of humanitarian aids and journalists killed… All this is unprecedented and disastrous for Israel's image.

   This isn't the first war where journalists have been killed , so its not unprecedented .

Its just a small loud minority shouting about genocide and starvation .

There have always been protestors protesting about something .

Impartial people realise that Israel are fighting back against terrorists , thy don't all believe that "all  innocent woman and children" nonsense 

2 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

I am giving you my opinion, as someone who has been following this issue for many years. I think you understand where I am coming from.

   Then you will be aware that there has always been opposition to Israel, always been marches and campaigns to boycott Israel and disinvest . 

  Always been terror attacks, anti Semites and Jews haters .always have been and always will be .

Saudi Arabia and U.A.E now side with Israel, that is more important than a few protests in USA universities 

Just now, rattlesnake said:

 

Pretty much the whole world, Nick, except for a few corrupt politicians and journalists.

   Palestinian  supporters quite often speak on behalf of the whole World .

Sitting at home online and telling the World what they think .

*The whole World agrees with me , its just you with a differing opinion to me and the rest of the World " 🙂

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Several posters here have repeatedly claimed that what is happening in Gaza is Hamas' fault, while the truth is, in Bibi's own words, what is happening in Gaza is a plan and its stakeholders will carry it out no matter what, even if Hamas gives in to Israel's demands.

   The Gaza war was caused by the Hamas terror attack on Oct 7 th .

It was just after the terror attack that Israel/Bibi vowed to wipe Hamas out .

You are trying to rewrite history and make the claim that Israel wants to wipe out Hamas and the Oct 7 th  attack is irrelevant .

  Hamas will not evade justice just by freeing their hostages , they need to be punished for committing the crime 

5 minutes ago, bannork said:

In the recent past Israel has been seen as the nation that rose from the unspeakable horrors of the holocaust, but now its image is that of a brutal nation, no better than Putin and his murderous campaigns.

 

   Jackson Hinkle is still claiming that "Israel BOMBED the last Christian hospital in Gaza today, killing over 500 civilians." , even though it was a Hamas misfiring rocket and he labels Isreal as being a terrorist state , because of that bombing . 

    Hes hardly a reliable source 

7 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

The world is no longer turning a blind eye to the plight of the Palestinians, and the justifications put forward to justify their annihilation – annihilation which was decided from the beginning (cf. Ben-Gurion's 1937 letter to his son, "We must expel Arabs and take their places...").

  Yes, as asked previously, what people are you referring to ?

What people previously agreed with me and now no longer agree with me ?

Could you tell me who those people are ?

Just saying the same thing again doesn't explain which people you mean .

8 minutes ago, eisfeld said:

 

 Gaza is not completely locked in by Israel btw. 

   There really is no point in telling that , far as they are concerned Gaza is completely locked on by Israel and nothing that you can do or say which will make them change their mind , not even showing pictures of the Egyptian / Gaz border will make them change their mind .

   You just need to go along with them and agree with them and move on 

22 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

I know what you think and want. Increasingly less people agree with you.

   What people previously agreed with me and now no longer agree with me ?

Could you tell me who those people are ?

Just now, rattlesnake said:

 

30 April:

Netanyahu vows to raid Rafah ‘with or without’ hostage deal
Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed that Israel will proceed with an offensive on the southern Gaza city of Rafah even if renewed efforts at internationally brokered talks with Hamas result in the release of hostages and a ceasefire.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/30/netanyahu-vows-to-raid-rafah-with-or-without-hostage-deal#:~:text=Benjamin Netanyahu has vowed that,of hostages and a ceasefire.

   Yes, I know , I read it when it was published last week .

Why did you post it again ?

24 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Of course they do, Genocide is hard to hide if there is a ceasefire. 

   It was a dirty dishonest ploy by Hamas , trying to keep the Palestinian civilians in Rafah by telling them there has been a ceasefire and cause the civilian casualties to mount up . 

   Hamas also waited until Israel had began their attack on Rafah before mentioning  a ceasefire , a ceasefire which was just a complete Israel surrender and would never be accepted .

   Shocking how gullible some people are